Hi All,

I'm going to Facial Team in September and will be reviewing accommodation options for post treatment. Carmen has said we will tour "Aldea Health Resort". From reviews on here, Jenny's Nest seems highly regarded but I can't find any recent information on it - does it still exist?

Does anyone have any experience of Aldea Health Resort or can point me to Jenny's Nest?

Thanks!


Sophie

Yes it does still exist. I was staying there for some days when I had my consultation last week. I also stayed a night in the Aldea. Both have their advantages and disadvantages.
Jennys is more social - you meet other patients or their friends and spouses, there is a shared kitchen and living room and sometimes they eat or cook together. But the rooms are a bit more simple, some of the beds were in my opinion too simple and small - Jenny said however she plans to make more rooms and also get better beds. The location is more suited to go out to the city centre for the evenings and for dinner. There are some organized trips to the city, to other sightseeing points, shopping etc. There is a bus station and a taxi stand nearby, the bus is very cheap and can bring you to the city centre, the hospital and there is one going to the airport as well. they ar enot very reliable though.

Aldea is more posh - big beds, hospital-style, motorized so you can move them to be comfy. Nurse button to call a nurse at any time. A mix of hotel room and hospital room. The food is good, but only some parts of it are included - you pay extra for some drinks like cola or wine or anything from the mini bar. they have a nice pool. Downside is you are a bit isolated - no other patients around from the same clinic, harder to get in contact to the strangers there. The location has a nice view, but this also means it is way off the map. No supermarkets nearby, so you depend on the supply from the hotel a lot. You need a taxi to go anywhere - city center, hospital, supermarket, airport ...

So - depends if you prefer some activity and social contact or calm and solitude...

Hi Sophie,

I'll be staying at Jenny's Nest for the second half of September. What Anjaq said sounds correct, though I have no direct experience yet. However, I can confirm that Jenny is still open and answering her emails.

Meghan


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Does she have a website? If posting the link is against the site rules, can someone PM me?

Thanks!


Sophie

http://www.thehiddenwoman.com/
http://www.thehiddenwoman.com/your-visit-to-us/

I stayed at Jenny's Nest this last Feb/March 2017 for my surgery with FT... excellent experience. See their site and the contact info... they'll likely respond with whatever info you need.

Quote from: anjaq on August 29, 2017, 04:33:15 PM
... But the rooms are a bit more simple, some of the beds were in my opinion too simple and small - Jenny said however she plans to make more rooms and also get better beds. The location is more suited to go out to the city centre for the evenings and for dinner. ... So - depends if you prefer some activity and social contact or calm and solitude...

I had a room with large bathroom ensuite and walk in closet... bed was amazingly comfortable and cushy and all that—at home I sleep on a mattress which is too firm... been wanting to change it for too long now—maybe our relative changes (i.e., you from home to there, and me from home to there) are different. But my bed felt very "down-feature-like" cushy (I don't know actually what it is made of).

I enjoyed the social experiences and found it easy to tuck myself away in my room as needed. Others were there who I  saw once in a while but largely had their own schedule... stayed in their rooms... went out on on their own and all that. It's totally flex for each person. In the times I was in my room, there was never a knock except if I had an appointment or we were leaving to go out to eat, something like that.... never just to say Hi or something... when in my room it was like being in a hotel.

I have to say... my first night there was a dream come true. I had finally made it... I had so much stress to manage before plopping myself on a plane. My cat has a heart condition so he needs meds every 12 hours... had find/arrange
the right sitter and all that, so many things... so when I got on a plane, I was in disbelief I'd made it... after all those years prior, odd considerations, decisions, contemplation... getting on that plane was cloud nine. 

When I arrived in Marbella and we went out that first night for dinner, it was a great joy to be out with both folks who were in post-OP recovery as well as those awaiting their surgery date as I was... for me that night was a celebration with an inner mood I will never ever forget. They treated me very well and we went to an excellent restaurant... I would not have had the same welcome socialization had I boarded myself in a hotel. I hadn't expected that... it was something i discovered. My choice of JN was based purely on so many who had gone prior with positive experiences.

None of this is to say anything about other accommodation routes... my personal experience was the JN route so that's what i can speak on. HC/FT also provided a phenomenal experience throughout ... I believe they have options too but I don't know the details maybe others know.

Considering how many of you guys seem to take a trip to Marbella in September, we couldn't almost arrange a get-together out there.

I am gonna be there Friday morning till Saturday evening Sept. 15th / 16th for my FFS consultation.

Would it be inappropriate to ask what Jenny's Nest usually charges on average per night? Me myself I will most likely rent an entire AirBnB apartment for those three weeks I'll be going to recover from my FFS. Within the vincinity of the hospital I've found a number of nice private apartments with A/C for about 40 to 60 EUR per night which is quite decent in my view.

Quote from: Saskia_F on August 30, 2017, 03:41:43 AM
...
Would it be inappropriate to ask what Jenny's Nest usually charges on average per night? Me myself I will most likely rent an entire AirBnB apartment for those three weeks I'll be going to recover from my FFS. Within the vincinity of the hospital I've found a number of nice private apartments with A/C for about 40 to 60 EUR per night which is quite decent in my view.

For JN rates you can email Jenny at her email address located at the contact link:
http://www.thehiddenwoman.com/contact/

Quote from: Ashley3 on August 30, 2017, 02:13:20 AM
I had a room with large bathroom ensuite and walk in closet... bed was amazingly comfortable and cushy and all that

Ah yes there are different rooms. This sounds like what another guest called "the masters bedroom" or maybe "Room 1" - they are all different. I was in one of the simpler rooms,
I think mainly because I was just there for the consultation and not the surgery. It still was
having a good sized own bathroom and two beds.

QuoteI have to say... my first night there was a dream come true. I had finally made it... I had so much stress to manage before plopping myself on a plane. My cat has a heart condition so he needs meds every 12 hours... had find/arrange
the right sitter and all that, so many things... so when I got on a plane, I was in disbelief I'd made it... after all those years prior, odd considerations, decisions, contemplation... getting on that plane was cloud nine.

This sounds awesome, it makes me a bit envious as I am still in this whole contemplation and decisionmaking process. It is taking so much energy

Quote from: anjaq on August 30, 2017, 02:24:28 PM
... I am still in this whole contemplation and decisionmaking process. It is taking so much energy

I hear you... I agonized over the decision for years... I know that feeling.

I knew FFS was for me when I first learned of it but there was so much baggage that slowed down my decision-making process. The short version of the story is I learned my personality only finds progress in this area with an incremental approach.

On hindsight I would have saved a lot of money and time by scheduling one small procedure after another, each several months or some minimum time apart. Sounds counter intuitive since separate procedures usually means more time/money but I found it was more wasteful not to move forward incrementally. The reason? ...

Well, when I was confronted with a huge list of FFS procedures, I became stalemated because, on one hand, a big list like that was going to cover everything and was the most efficient "proper" way to do things in concert under one surgery—many speak of the benefits of this. On the other hand, it was a lot of stuff... what if it's too much? Am I ready for such a change? All that stuff.

What I noticed is that considering the big lists of FFS procedures was simply a blocker in the way of progress. Once I got incremental, things just rolled forward.

What I see now is that it's highly unlikely that I'd ever have an issue with too much feminization so doing all of the procedures at once would have been fine ... but that hindsight means nothing when initially going through things so I'll take incremental for the sake of progress instead of endless blocked consideration of the "proper" full list of all I should do. Without having hindsight knowledge, it's like choosing the former moved me forward while the contemplating the latter "correct" approach led to zero progress and a bit of agonizing.

I now view forehead contouring as an incremental step... I used to make a big mental deal out of forehead work. No doubt, it should be considered carefully as with any surgical procedure. All plastic surgery is imperfect and has risks. I went into it accepting the risks. FT (and I assume other top FFS surgeons) has things systematized in a way that makes the procedures fairly standard... each person has different "reference points" so it's not a cookie-cutter thing—each person represents a different set of possibilities within the systematization of things... this is what I only generally understand.

My experience tells me forehead/chin work just another feminizing step... I go do it, I see how I feel, I continue forward with next steps. Risks? Well, assuming life and result issues are a low probability, it seems the highest probability is one's own regret or otherwise. I wasn't worried about regret ... I was so darn tired of wanting changes, agonizing in overthinking, that just wanted to get past it to discover how I felt afterwards. I was ready to accept full responsibility for the choice regardless of the hindsight perspective... turns out that hindsight tells me it was really a "no brainer" ... forehead/chin were—as I had initially thought years prior—always right for me... could not too feminized.

I now see my rhinoplasty decision-making process along with the recovery was much more involved than forehead/chin with FT. If someone goes to a top FFS surgeon with a history of excellent results, I'd recommend trying to view forehead/chin as "just another transition" procedure. Yes, significant, but in the spirit of taking risks in life that one is willing to live with one way or another, I don't view forehead/chin as any more or less drastic than a feminizing rhino.

Prior to finally getting forehead, I was under the misconception that forehead/chin were like launching a mission to Mars, while a feminizing rhino was a walk in the park. I was wrong, I was exaggerating forehead/chin (assuming we're talking about top FFS surgeons with a history of good results... I'm not referring to someone who goes down the street to someone who uses the label "FFS" and then burrs the frontal sinus).

So I don't l know your circumstances but I feel for you when hearing what you say about the decision-making... considering procedures has been daunting for me. Simplifying on hindsight obviously doesn't help either! 

Well for me it was a bit different so far. I kind of wavered between "dont do anything, everyone keeps telling you it is ok as it is" and "get this done as you feel dysphoric way too often" and then I would waver between geting a long list done or getting an even longer list done. And of course then there are details to discuss, especially in nose, chin and jaw there can be details that surgeons do different. And of course the tough decision on which surgeon.

Anyways - when I am going on that flight eventually , I will be relieved to gain 2 hours every day that I do not contemplate or research about the best ways to cut open my face - lol

Quote from: anjaq on August 30, 2017, 04:24:36 PM
... I will be relieved to gain 2 hours every day that I do not contemplate or research about the best ways to cut open my face - lol

I sigh with relief these days when I think about how much time I'm not spending considering FFS details. At the start of my surgery research, there were many multi-hour evenings as well. After having gone to Spain and back, I can now see the wisdom in not letting distance guide things... I see how easy it is to choose the surgeon you feel is best regardless of location, then go.

After all of the "2 hour" (or more) evenings I spent considering FFS details for years, the plane trip was truly enjoyable and went very fast... great food, relaxing actually... it's funny how I used to avoid considerations due to travel... I've now traveled twice for surgery and both times it's been wonderful once getting on the plane... it's all the stuff beforehand that makes it seem like it will never happen.

Anyway... best of luck on your considerations... may they be as painless and as fruitful as possible!

Yes this is what I kept saying - do not let location determine the choice, go for the quality. Funnily, Facialteam is basically next door, globally. Its about a 3 hour flight or less - the taxi to and from the airport and the check in is taking more time.
So paradoxically this is part of why I am still unsure - I don't quite trust that actually by chance it may be that I do not have to travel far and still get a good surgery here. Last time I went all the way to Korea to get the VFS done because I thought Dr Kim was the best and it was a good choice. Now I wonder if I should not have to go to some other place for FFS as well. One thing is for sure - going elsewhere can be cheaper - like 1/2 the price or less. FT is quite expensive internationally, but of course still below the prices they charge in the USA, which sometimes seem rather crazy.

Anyways - Two friends of mine were apparently the first people who were booked into the Aldea by Facialteam - its the hotel that has a nurse and medical services and all that. Since Jennys Nest became disassociated with FT, FT chose this as a new option for accomodation. So I also had the chance to see it, probably be among the first to be booked there as well for the consultation overnight stay. Its as I described it above. I may be able to provide more info on it when my friends tell me about it in a week or so after they come home. As I said - more preofessional and luxurious than Jennys, but less sociable.
In a way its like comparing a three star hotel with a B&B that has a nice host and other interesting guests. In one you literally will get foods like "baked cheek of beef" or "belly of sea bass on vegetables" (actual menu items at the Aldea ) - in the other the host may make you bacon and eggs for breakfast if they feel you need it (thanks Jenny ) and people may join the host in preparing a grilled chicken dinner - I assume they also do BBQ on the porch as well.

Hi Sophie and Anjaq;

In my book , the only real choice is Jennys Nest. Last November 2016 I went to Facial Team for a consultation and to spend 5 days in a hotel resort next to the Facial Team clinic soaking some autumn summer and to get away from a miserable and very wet Exeter in Devon. Unfortunately I didn't know much about Jenny Nest before I arrived in Marbella and it was only because I met one of the Jenny Next team at the clinic that i heard about it whilst I was having my consultation. I was then invited over for a tour and to met Jenny and the team and then Jenny invited me out to dinner with the guests that were staying there and I met a really wonderful woman from Cumbria in the UK called Amber who was there having a second round of FS from Facial Team. We had a really nice dinner and everyone was really sociable and I then took Amber back to her hotel. Jenny was incredibly kind and really sociable, so when I heard about the kerfuffle about it possibly closing and the way that Facial Team had treated Jenny, it made me incredibly angry when one realise just how much effort Jenny and her team have put in to make our transition as "painless" as possible.  I didn't stay in their newly recommended Hotel (as I was only going for a Consultation), but solitude in a hotel on ones own with a "nice" swimming pool, doesn't compare to the wonderful support, social networking (if you want), plus oodles of personal care provided at Jenny Nest, plus they have a lovely swimming pool at Jenny Nest where you are not going to be bothered by "pesky unwanted men" trying to chat one up.
Only one choice for me. Luckily Jenny Nest is not closing and I feel its really important that Susans and all of us continue to promote and support Jenny and her team.
Judith

Quote from: judithlynn on August 31, 2017, 03:42:24 AM
Jenny was incredibly kind and really sociable, so when I heard about the kerfuffle about it possibly closing and the way that Facial Team had treated Jenny, it made me incredibly angry when one realise just how much effort Jenny and her team have put in to make our transition as "painless" as possible.

What was the kerfuffle about? What do you mean the way that Facial Team treated Jenny?

I think its not public what happened and Jenny was kind of reserved, talking about it. What I understood is that FT wanted a more "modern/professional/posh" kind of aftercare and possibly they wanted to take over the Nest and upgrade it or they had the intention to somehow make up something new - I dont know. But apparently they wanted the arrangement to change. Jenny is a very "self made woman" who built up her present life from scratch, so she did not take it well that others interfere in her way of running things, so now they basically go separate ways - Jenny provides her services on her own terms to patients in Marbella - not only FT anymore - and FT booked those tidy clean but also a bit sterile rooms in the Aldea.

Good point about the pesky men though - We had one of them at the Aldea when I was there. He kept trying to talk to us when we were sitting at dinner - it was a bit annoying, really. But I guess you get that in hotels that have male and female guests.

Jenn promised however to upgrade her rooms a bit, make new rooms for more patients and put in better beds and such, so it will be a bit changed - given time.

For me personally, probably the pool sadly is not going to matter much as any potential dates I can have FFS in spring are in February or March. After that the next dates would be in September, which of course would be nicer but also would mean to wait longer.
February is however winter in Marbella which means its surprisingly cold and wet, I was told

Quote from: anjaq on September 06, 2017, 04:04:34 AM
I think its not public what happened and Jenny was kind of reserved, talking about it. What I understood is that FT wanted a more "modern/professional/posh" kind of aftercare and possibly they wanted to take over the Nest and upgrade it or they had the intention to somehow make up something new - I dont know. But apparently they wanted the arrangement to change. Jenny is a very "self made woman" who built up her present life from scratch, so she die not take it well that others interfere in her way of running things, so now they basically go separate ways - Jenny provides her services on her own terms to patients in Marbella - not only FT anymore - and FT booked those tidy clean but also a bit sterile rooms in the Aldea.

I remember reading on fb when she was closing it or indicated that she was done awhile back. Did not feel proper asking since had not booked anything with her. Though it was good seeing her pop back on with it up & running. She seems super kind & wish her the best.

I emailed Jenny back in September/October just to say 'Hi' and told her that it would be nice to meet up and have dinner together when I was in Marbella this month.

I stayed with her and Nicola at the villa when I had my surgery in April 2016 and we had a great time.

I might have had the wrong email address as I have not heard back from her.

One of the taxi drivers that Facial Team use said that she is now back in the UK.

Paula

Yes. Jenny is in the UK doing extended session electrolysis for trans women. She gave up working in Marbella and doing patient care. I think Nicola still is in Marbella and doing patient are, but I am not sure.

Hiya,

Thank you for the update.

Maybe I will see Nicola when I am looking around the town.

Take care

Paula

Quote from: anjaq on November 25, 2018, 12:49:39 PM
Yes. Jenny is in the UK doing extended session electrolysis for trans women. She gave up working in Marbella and doing patient care. I think Nicola still is in Marbella and doing patient are, but I am not sure.