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Penectomy update with Dr. Arnkoff

Started by Leslie601, September 20, 2017, 08:40:29 PM

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Leslie601

As I said in my intro I'm Getting my penectomy with Dr. Arnkoff tomorrow (Thursday), There have been some changes to his procedure since the last user reported on this site. I'll try to keep a daily log as we go along.

For those wondering why the orchi (done two years ago) and the penectomy instead of a full monty SRS. The answer is simple, age & money, there simply isn't enough of either or the inclination for anything else, as much as I'd like. Read my intro for more.

Day 1, meet Dr. Arnkoff.

I arrived at his office in Farmington Hills, Mi. Nice facility which he shares with other Doctors and a large medical group.

He has all the professional Medical degrees on his wall and is highly qualified as a urologist and surgeon, so no issues there. He is really nice and we spoke about my needs, why I was there and about the surgery.
The cost without orchi has changed and is now $6,500, $8,500 with orchi.

Orchi's alone are still done at his office , not requiring a letter, using Local anesthetic, however Penectomy's are done at the Birmingham Cosmetic Surgery Center, In Southfield Mi, about 6 miles from the Doc's office. Their charge is $1,850 for that facility. I think there might also be a charge for the anesthesiologist as they use general anesthesia for that surgery.
Additionally, the surgery center requires a therapist letter (As they all do these days) But Doc Arnkoff arranged that for me in the building for $300. A very good counseling session and worth every penny. 

The doc gave my Scripts for pain killers, antibiotics and, in my case, some Ambien for sleep. Much appreciated.

And we were done, Part 2 Tomorrow.

Leslie 
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Devlyn

So exciting! I'll be there with you in spirit, Leslie! Keep us updated.

Hugs, Devlyn
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Leslie601

Hello  again all,
Arrived at the Birmingham Cosmetic Surgery center at 0700 and was shown right in. Really Nice staff, efficient, quick paperwork with a lot of humor. I changed out of my blouse and long skirt (I thought the long skirt was better than tight pants.)Doc came in and told me what was going to happen and to expect quite a lot of light oozing and bleeding, apparently this area is quite vascular. At this point I was getting very relaxed, something in the IV I suppose. They took me into the operating room and set me up with my arms on rests and my feet in stirrups and all splayed out. The nurse started telling me a joke the end of which I didn't hear.

The next thing that happened  was my SO was talking to me and it took a few moments for me to realize it was over. I asked her if it was done to completion and she said it was, I was elated and began crying tears of joy. The nurse asked if I was in pain and my SO told her It was a joyful cry. I think the nurses were touched by that, they were all young and I suspected they'd never experienced this before because I'd be willing to bet most of us on the forum would cry too.

They bundled me into a wheelchair and loaded me in the SUV (Thank goodness for a vehicle with a big door.)
at this stage of things I haven't felt any pain whatsoever with exception of the discomfort of the catheter in my new urethra  location and my bladder. The last time I had one the bag was a real PITA because you had to hand carry the darn thing. But the newer ones have a smaller bag that mounts nicely to the inside of your leg. They also have a drain valve which allows a 24' hose which makes draining dramatically easier. I can empty standing up next to the toilet.

As i write this I'm lying in the hotel bed still bleeding and oozing but the Doc said to expect that. I'm still in no pain but I started Norco (Hydrocodone) as soon as we got back to the hotel.

I have looked several times and when I do I see the P and S gone I start tearing up again - I wish I had done this many years ago instead of being poisoned by T and ruled by the second head.

I'll do part 3 tomorrow after the doc sees me and changes the dressing, only minor swelling so far.

Stay tuned.

Leslie

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Devlyn

Big hug! Congratulations, Leslie. Definitely don't want pants on a day like this. Glad you are sharing your experience with us.

Hugs, Devlyn
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Leslie601

Saw the Doc this AM and he was pleased, not a lot of swelling and minor oozing which should stop today. We could have left today but the area is too sensitive to the road bumps so we'll try Monday afternoon, the Doc said great and he'd see me for one last time before we pull out.

Last night was well controlled by Norco but finding a comfortable position was hard And I ended up on my back all night icing and replacing the pads due to oozing. Normally they put in a drain tube to handle that but this is usually removed several days later and that would have kept us in town too long. Dressing is off and I can shower this afternoon.

I can't begin to convey how wonderful it is to see my new look, my only regret is that I waited so long to do it. I now officially have zero male parts, internally or externally.

Updates to come!

Leslie
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AnneK

QuoteI can't begin to convey how wonderful it is to see my new look, my only regret is that I waited so long to do it. I now officially have zero male parts, internally or externally.

Prostate?
I'm a 65 year old male who has been thinking about SRS for many years.  I also was a  full cross dresser for a few years.  I wear a bra, pantyhose and nail polish daily because it just feels right.

Started HRT April 17, 2019.
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Devlyn

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RobynD

Congrats on the new you! Best wishes for a speedy recovery and resumption of activities.


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Leslie601

Prostate was the cancer, it's gone too.

L
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AnneK

Really good it's gone then.

BTW, Dev, my question wasn't intended to be poor form.  Sometimes the prostate is removed as part of the penectomy, because it can cause problems, including cancer, as Leslie had.  As I have mentioned here, I am currently getting care for BPH.  One of the things I'll be discussing with the urologist next month is whether surgery might be warranted..  So, if it has to come out anyway, and you're getting a penectomy, why not get both done at the same time?
I'm a 65 year old male who has been thinking about SRS for many years.  I also was a  full cross dresser for a few years.  I wear a bra, pantyhose and nail polish daily because it just feels right.

Started HRT April 17, 2019.
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Leslie601

Anne, My BPH eventually led to a PSA which was only mildly elevated at 6. Because when previously tested it was only a 2 the Doc decided a biopsy was needed. That came back at a terrible Gleason of 9 and we discussed options. I wanted a Radical Prostatectomy with castration which raised some eyebrows in the room. After more discussion my opinion won out. Obviously I didn't share my REAL reason for this disused treatment. As it turned out they found a single Cancer cell in my lymph nodes which made them go ahead with the Castration right then. After some months I convinced them to give me HRT too (Estrogen is often used as a T replacement in cancer patients.) I didn't have the balls ( ;D) to ask for the Penectomy at the same time. So far PSA remains undetectable but I have no illusions about the future, hence the decision to forgo the full monte SRS.

This afternoon the swelling is up and painful but the oozing is almost stopped.

Leslie
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Devlyn

Quote from: AnneK on September 22, 2017, 01:51:38 PM
Really good it's gone then.

BTW, Dev, my question wasn't intended to be poor form.  Sometimes the prostate is removed as part of the penectomy, because it can cause problems, including cancer, as Leslie had.  As I have mentioned here, I am currently getting care for BPH.  One of the things I'll be discussing with the urologist next month is whether surgery might be warranted..  So, if it has to come out anyway, and you're getting a penectomy, why not get both done at the same time?

Ah. Well, certainly you can see  how your single word post could be read more than one way.
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AnneK

QuoteAnne, My BPH eventually led to a PSA which was only mildly elevated at 6.

My PSA tests also came back OK, but ultrasound showed my prostate was about 3x normal size and it also caused problems for my bladder (I had a cystoscopy a couple of weeks ago.).  While I really would like certain surgery, I most certainly don't want it for cancer.
I'm a 65 year old male who has been thinking about SRS for many years.  I also was a  full cross dresser for a few years.  I wear a bra, pantyhose and nail polish daily because it just feels right.

Started HRT April 17, 2019.
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Chris8080

I didn't look at Anne's prostrate question as poor form, I was curious myself. Cancer certainly explains it but geez, that's really tough. Wish I could make that same claim but not getting there that way. Thanks for posting your experiences Leslie, very interesting.
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Leslie601

Latest update,

Well, this has certainly been an experience. Bleeding and oozing finally stopped and swelling is about the same. I slept all night last night, which was a first. However, because I did sleep all night I missed three doses of pain meds and discovered it takes a lot longer to get rid of the pain once it sets in.

I've read here and elsewhere about phantom sensations and I noticed that today. Feelings for stuff that isn't there, kind of an itch you can't scratch.

Last doc appointment is tomorrow and then we'll head down the highway for home. I can't sit down straight so have to lean the seat all the way back. We'll see how that goes after two six hour days. I am really looking forward to being in my own bed. Hotels are not the ideal place to recover.

On a pain scale I'd say the worst I've experienced has been a 5/10. Prostate surgery/recovery was way worse.

Leslie
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HappyMoni

Since you are graciously informing and I am now curious, I will ask this question. Do they have to angle the urethra in any way to accommodate peeing angle ? I am thinking it might be an issue peeing forward.
Moni
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Leslie601

It is relocated to a different location further down, downward and slightly forward angle.

L
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Devlyn

Love the avatar picture, pretty lady.  :-*

Hugs, Devlyn
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Leslie601

Made it home and the trip was very difficult. Couldn't really sit down and laying down caused me to start bleeding for some reason. Two seven hour days. The pain is about the same and seems to be concentrated in the area of the new urethral opening. BM's are TOUGH! Seven days since the operation and the swelling overall is down but the stitches in the urethral opening area are very sensitive. especially when I get up or down. The catheter is a Real PITA  ::) and I'll be happy when I get rid of it in two weeks.

Thanks everybody!

Leslie

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