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New Diagnostic Codes Lessen Stigma for Transgender People

Started by steph2.0, September 24, 2017, 10:56:38 PM

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Assigned male at birth 1958 * Began envying sister 1963 * Knew unquestioningly that I was female 1968 * Acted the male part for 50 years * Meltdown and first therapist session May 2017 * Began HRT 6/21/17 * Out to the world 10/13/17 * Name Change 12/7/2017 (Girl Harbor Day) * FFS With FacialTeam 12/4/2018 * Facelift and Lipo Body Sculpting at Ocean Clinic 6/13-14/2019 * GCS with Marci Bowers 9/25/2019
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Lady Sarah

Quote from: Steph2.0 on September 24, 2017, 10:56:38 PM
I was made aware of this through a posting on a Facebook group:

http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/885141

Stephanie
The site is intended for healthcare professionals, and people would have to create an account to read anything on it.

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steph2.0

Quote from: Lady Sarah on September 24, 2017, 11:13:32 PM
The site is intended for healthcare professionals, and people would have to create an account to read anything on it.

Well that's frustrating. The link opens fine through Facebook, and it's an interesting article that seems to be good news. I don't have permission to copy the article, and I don't know how to get to it outside FB or creating an account on Medscape.

My apologies.

Steph


Assigned male at birth 1958 * Began envying sister 1963 * Knew unquestioningly that I was female 1968 * Acted the male part for 50 years * Meltdown and first therapist session May 2017 * Began HRT 6/21/17 * Out to the world 10/13/17 * Name Change 12/7/2017 (Girl Harbor Day) * FFS With FacialTeam 12/4/2018 * Facelift and Lipo Body Sculpting at Ocean Clinic 6/13-14/2019 * GCS with Marci Bowers 9/25/2019
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AnonyMs

If you post a few keywords from the article perhaps it's findable in other ways.
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sigsi

(apologies if this is a slight thread hijack)
Was it an article that has "New Diagnostic Codes Lessen Stigma for Transgender People" as the title? I think it looks the same by the numbers in the link. If it is, the author is Jack Drescher, MD and the article was created on Sept 11, 2017.
I found an article with that title on Facebook from a "Transgender News" page (article was posted on Sept 16, 2017).
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EDIT: I also just googled "New Diagnostic Codes Lessen Stigma for Transgender People by Jack Drescher, MD" and it came up as the first link. Might work?
To be who you want to be 
and generally happy,
 is better than to be who you're not 
while living in mental pain.
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steph2.0

Quote from: sigsi on September 25, 2017, 01:50:16 AM
(apologies if this is a slight thread hijack)
Was it an article that has "New Diagnostic Codes Lessen Stigma for Transgender People" as the title? I think it looks the same by the numbers in the link. If it is, the author is Jack Drescher, MD and the article was created on Sept 11, 2017.
I found an article with that title on Facebook from a "Transgender News" page (article was posted on Sept 16, 2017)
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EDIT: I also just googled "New Diagnostic Codes Lessen Stigma for Transgender People by Jack Drescher, MD" and it came up as the first link. Might work?

Yes, Sigsi, that's exactly it. It seems the only way to actually read the article is through Facebook or by setting up an account on Medscape.

If you feel like plowing through a technical description, a freely available paper written by Jack Drescher, Peggy Cohen-Kittenis, and Sam Winter is available here: http://atme-ev.de/download/psychoszuICD11.pdf.

I admit I had never heard of Dr. Drescher before, but it's obvious he's a very dedicated advocate for our rights.

Steph


Assigned male at birth 1958 * Began envying sister 1963 * Knew unquestioningly that I was female 1968 * Acted the male part for 50 years * Meltdown and first therapist session May 2017 * Began HRT 6/21/17 * Out to the world 10/13/17 * Name Change 12/7/2017 (Girl Harbor Day) * FFS With FacialTeam 12/4/2018 * Facelift and Lipo Body Sculpting at Ocean Clinic 6/13-14/2019 * GCS with Marci Bowers 9/25/2019
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AnonyMs

The article is readable from the google search result link, but not if you type the link in directly.
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sigsi

Quote from: Steph2.0 on September 25, 2017, 07:42:58 AM
Yes, Sigsi, that's exactly it. It seems the only way to actually read the article is through Facebook or by setting up an account on Medscape.

If you feel like plowing through a technical description, a freely available paper written by Jack Drescher, Peggy Cohen-Kittenis, and Sam Winter is available here: http://atme-ev.de/download/psychoszuICD11.pdf.

I admit I had never heard of Dr. Drescher before, but it's obvious he's a very dedicated advocate for our rights.

Steph

Awesome, thanks for posting. :)
To be who you want to be 
and generally happy,
 is better than to be who you're not 
while living in mental pain.
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KathyLauren

I read it, and it is interesting.  But it is about the development of the DSM-5, which is kind of old news, though some agencies are still using DSM-4.
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Sarah77

Not first time I've heard a medical professional admit they don't have the slightest clue what makes people transgender.

My therapist was very, very cynical about biological causes above pychiatric.

She argued gender was merely a social construct that means only what society decides.
I wasn't convinced by her argument
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lilcuddlymouse

Quote from: Sarah77 on September 25, 2017, 12:31:43 PM
Not first time I've heard a medical professional admit they don't have the slightest clue what makes people transgender.

My therapist was very, very cynical about biological causes above pychiatric.

She argued gender was merely a social construct that means only what society decides.
I wasn't convinced by her argument

My first therapist was similar, but not so overt. They gave me a book on the history of gender stereotypes. It was in incredibly boring read, but in some way's there is a lot of cultural elements in what gender is. We feel more feminine than masculine due to possible biological reasons, but the only reason we have dysphoria from it is because of our cultural stereotypes. If we were all allowed to dress and act how we wanted with no thoughts of being seen as different at least many of us probably wouldn't have dysphoria and then those who have to have surgical intervention would still be much happier without cultural stigma. For the most part it is only Christian influenced cultures that set such binary rules for gender.
HRT started: 27 July 2017
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NancyBalik

As mentioned, this article relates to the "workgroup" (essentially committee) that developed the new diagnosis "Gender Dysphoria" in the DSM5 that came out in 2013.  In the DSM-4, it was called Gender Identity Disorder and the criteria were slightly different.  There was quite a movement at the time amongst the trans community of removing entirely from the psychiatric diagnostic manual all references to gender "issues" or nonconformity being a psychiatric disorder.  Eventually, Gender Dysphoria was left in largely on the argument that if it were not considered a "disorder" requiring treatment insurance including Vet's benefits, would not be required to provide treatment--including psychotherapy, hrt, or gas.

Should it be considered a mental disorder?  Is it?  Or is it a physical disorder?  I believe that it leads to mental disorders--like anxiety, depression, and substance abuse.  I believe that I would have less stigma if gender variance was understood and accepted and I could be Nancy without fear.
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steph2.0

Quote from: AnonyMs on September 25, 2017, 08:05:54 AM
The article is readable from the google search result link, but not if you type the link in directly.

Thanks AnonyMs. That does it.

If you do as AnonyMs says, type (or copy and paste) "New Diagnostic Codes Lessen Stigma for Transgender People" into a Google search window, then click the link in the results, you can see the article published on 9/11/17, along with a video. The last section talks about some changes in ICD-11 which is coming out in 2018.

Steph


Assigned male at birth 1958 * Began envying sister 1963 * Knew unquestioningly that I was female 1968 * Acted the male part for 50 years * Meltdown and first therapist session May 2017 * Began HRT 6/21/17 * Out to the world 10/13/17 * Name Change 12/7/2017 (Girl Harbor Day) * FFS With FacialTeam 12/4/2018 * Facelift and Lipo Body Sculpting at Ocean Clinic 6/13-14/2019 * GCS with Marci Bowers 9/25/2019
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rmaddy

Quote from: Sarah77 on September 25, 2017, 12:31:43 PM
Not first time I've heard a medical professional admit they don't have the slightest clue what makes people transgender.

My therapist was very, very cynical about biological causes above pychiatric.

She argued gender was merely a social construct that means only what society decides.
I wasn't convinced by her argument

I am the sort of person who always wants/needs to know.  When I started up with my current counselor and I was laying down goals, I said I want to know why I am transgender.  His reply was "What if it just is?"

There isn't an answer--not yet and maybe not in our lifetimes.  It's pretty easy to figure out that you're transgender.  It's basically impossible to figure out why.  And, in the end, it doesn't matter.
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