On Wikipedia, it says

"Elastration is normally limited to castrations done during the first few weeks of life, and it cannot be used for species where the scrotum does not have a narrow base, such as pigs or horses."

Humans do not have scrota with narrow bases, and most of us are more than a few weeks old.

Quote from: Allie24 on September 27, 2017, 12:45:39 PM
I have been apocalypse-obsessed since I was in 7th grade ...

Seriously, we can't rule out the possibility of the world, as we know it, ending.  Apocalyptic changes have altered the structures of societies throughout history:  Imperialism, colonial expansion, the Black Death, the misnamed "War to End All Wars"...

Now Russia is flexing its muscles in Eastern Europe, China is staking a claim to the entire China seas, President Trump and Kim Jong Il are making threats that they can't back down from and it's only a matter of time before organisations such as Al Qaeda or ISIS obtain nuclear weapons.  If war breaks out between one major power and the ally of another major power, we will have a war that can only change society again.

I don't worry about any of that. I have enough stuff to stress over in my life. If some world wide cataclysm struck there isn't one thing I can do about it. So why stress over it?  As far as a nuclear attack, I think it's one of the better ways to die. You wouldn't know it was happening really. Half a second of intense light and poof, you're evaporated. I doubt there would be enough time for it to even hurt.

It does amaze me though that some otherwise intelligent people actually believe a zombie apocalypse is a real possibility.

Quote from: Julia1996 on September 28, 2017, 11:15:07 AM
I don't worry about any of that. I have enough stuff to stress over in my life.

You're right of course. 

In Ecclesiastes 1, we are told that everything is vain and a waste of time if we want the world to change for our pleasure but, in Ecclesiastes 3, we are told to do good, be happy and take satisfaction in our work.

In other words, we're all doomed, doomed, I say, but never mind, like the song goes, "Don't worry, be happy".

Or, like Bowser said in an episode of Sha Na Na,
"Eat, drink and be merry - for tomorrow, we may not die after all!"

Quote from: MaryT on September 28, 2017, 11:22:40 AM
In Ecclesiastes 1, we are told ...

P.S. I'm not really very religious, although I tick "Christian" on forms.  I travelled a lot in my youth, mostly for work, and I spent a lot of time in hotels with Gideon bibles.  Sometimes I remember a bit.

Quote from: Devlyn Marie on September 27, 2017, 05:38:35 PM
If this is serious, you have my full apology. I thought we were redoing the "Nuclear war? What about my hotel reservations?" topic.

Hugs, Devlyn

Actually Devlyn I was trying to be serious? In don't do it.

Cancel those reservations. Never plan for anything. Just go with the moment. So cancel those reservations and pay full price. I can't plan anything worth a crap. Something always seems to come up and I lose my money anyway. If I get a wild hair on the weekend and want to go to Biloxi and pay full price for a room then it will be fun because I did not plan to have it.

On a lighter note and some of what I was getting at, I have seen "Mega" Tornadoes living in Tornado alley but have yet to see the apocalypse from a tornadic thunderstorm. Yes some property damage for sure but no the end of the world.

But as for the rubber band thing and in a situation like the "Apocalypse" gender dysphoria would be least on my list. I would still be a woman but probably a lot smarter of a woman.

But... When the world ends we are going to be long gone unless you believe in reincarnation like me and I would hope like hell we would have conquered interstellar travel before then.

Guys the world is not ending I know that. I remember when they had that scare one year on new years eve I was holding my breath because I thought when the ball dropped that the world would explode or something... oh look I am still here.
(I think this is when it was changing to the year 2000 with the Y2K).

One of the very many wonderful things about being in Australia is that the date line is closer to us. So if some strange person is saying that the world will end at 8 am in the USA say on 30 September, well it has been 1 October for 12 hours already.

Or maybe the world did end and I'm living in an alternative universe.

"CindyWorld"

Sounds good to me.

Quote from: Cindy on September 29, 2017, 06:54:12 AM
One of the very many wonderful things about being in Australia is that the date line is closer to us. So if some strange person is saying that the world will end at 8 am in the USA say on 30 September, well it has been 1 October for 12 hours already.

Haha, the best way to calm someone in U.S. down before Y2K: "Hey, don't worry. We have a buffer. If planes start falling out of the sky in Australia we have more than enough time to land them here."

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Or maybe the world did end and I'm living in an alternative universe.

"CindyWorld"

Sounds good to me.

I sometimes think I am in the final season of Lost.

Quote from: Cindy on September 29, 2017, 06:54:12 AM
One of the very many wonderful things about being in Australia is that the date line is closer to us. So if some strange person is saying that the world will end at 8 am in the USA say on 30 September, well it has been 1 October for 12 hours already.

Or maybe the world did end and I'm living in an alternative universe.

"CindyWorld"

Sounds good to me.

OMG. From the country that Mad Max and Mel Gibson is from? not to even mention Mick Dundee. So now we have to deal with CindyWorld.

Maybe you are living in an alternate universe. Time is a funny thing and you may be living in and alternate time line but I guess I am too.

Look the end of the world will happen eventually. When? ->-bleeped-<-... I don't know or even care to guess or even want to know. In that case I want to be the first one to die.

This is the deal. The sun will eventually expand I believe into a red giant and eventually overtake all the inner planets. Before that happens we better all hope NASA gets its ->-bleeped-<- together and funded again. We are talking Mars since the early 2000s and haven't went there yet? In the red Giant scenario Mars would be toast too.

LOL what I was saying and answering too and it sounds crazy because I prepare for storms especially living on the Gulf Coast and that is a weeks worth of food that won't spoil and enough ammo to defend against looters and criminals that may want something I got. When I was in ninth grade I spent four days without electricity in my area due to an F4 tornado at the time. A lot of my friend lost their homes. In the mid 90's an EF 3 tornado hit again but in different areas and a lot of people died. One of my friends lost his wife and so on. That sucked.

Mega tornadoes due to climate change is not going to happen. Mega tornadoes do like in Moore OK though.  Mega Blizzards happen and I have been through a few on the road in Wyoming, Montana, Nebraska, Minnesota, Wisconsin and so on. It sux but it is not the end of the world. I was in a Blizzard that totally shut down the city of Chicago. I put my life on the line to get to Chi Town and everything there was basically shut down. The shut down lasted two days and all I did was go through hell trying to get there from Indiana. I should have stayed in my Motel room and or the Truckstop.

people are wasting so much time worrying about ->-bleeped-<- that will never happen. I go to Cabelas because I like shooting and I see all the freeze dried crap for ungodly amounts of money. After a storm, MREs are given out for free. I would rather have MREs than freeze dried ->-bleeped-<-.

OK, Guilty here. I prep but only for a week. If the Apocalypse does come the I have enough ammo to get the hell out of town safely and that relates to 120 rounds of 5.56mm and 200 rounds of 9mm and roughly three thousand rounds of .22 LR. A girl never raises her voice and .22 is quiet and I can make a hell of a meal on squirrel and rabbit if need be with wild onions, cat tail hearts, and wild salt licks and even wild peppers that grow.

LOL and I am paranoid and love that song BTW but the apocalypse will never come but if it does, you are never going to be able to prepare for it. Those that do are probably going to be doomed from the get go. Those that prep in old Nuclear weapons' bunkers and spend big bucks? Jesus Christ live in a city and buy all the food?. I may sound paranoid and like I said I love the song but number one, get the hell as far away from others as you can. Number two, learn how to live off of nature and as quietly as possible. Number three, learn the first two rules. Number four. Read Number three.

Look the Apocalypse will never happen and I may be wrong. But if it does and you suffer gender dysphoria, I would bet that dysphoria would be the first thing on your mind. If it is then never bind your nuts in a rubber band. I have seen dogs neutered this way. It is not a thing you would want to go through. I am a hillbilly "girl" from Arkansas and don't even do that to any animals I own now. Yes they will die and fall off but... Humans are different than animals and what the OP posted is kind of .... somehow.... desperate?

Never do that. OMG I cut myself and I get sick and nauseous. My genitalia is nothing to brag about as a man but not too bad as a tans woman though. Think of Amy Daly. But there is no way I would do what the OP was suggesting even if I had a 12 inch and half pound testicals.

BTW if we talk about identity, then why do we let and give so much power over what we have between our legs identify us. Now I think that is a more serious question. I will admit I was lucky as a trans woman but not so lucky if I would have been a cis guy. Even as a trans woman I am not that lucky because some guys expect a little more. Those that don't are truly special.

Wow, way too deep on that one.

Let's celebrate

It's the end of the world as we know it
It's the end of the world as we know it
It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine

If you're worried about the thing with North Korea, I wouldn't be.

For one thing, NK doesn't have any weapons capable of reaching the United States. Even if they were to acquire any, it's doubtful that we wouldn't be able to shoot them down.

Furthermore, China is now stepping up and helping to deal with the NK problem. They don't want to see nukes going off over there, since radiation has a tendency to drift. Furthermore, the destruction of South Korea isn't desirable for anyone, much less anything else over there.

It's just men puffing up their chests at each other, I'd ignore it.

As fun as running around shooting giant mutated ants with guns would be, I highly doubt the end of the world is coming anytime soon. If you're worried about that, I'd think more about moving farther away from major metropolitan areas; not hurting yourself and potentially harming the opportunity for future SRS.

I used to be in the service, and knowing and understanding NK missile and weapon technology was something I had to do.

Thank you all for your advice... I really needed some talking down there. About twenty four hours after publishing the initial post I was able to get my head straight. I'm not going to castrate myself... as desperate as I feel to have something done I'm willing to wait until a doctor can do it properly.

I have an unhealthy obsession with annihilation. I fear everything I know and love disappearing. I'm sure it has a lot more to do with me, though, than the rest of the world, and this is something I will definitely be bringing up with my therapist.

I just hate having this thing attached to me like some toxic growth that is going to poison my body if I don't take my spiro... ugh. To have it done away with will be a mercy.

Quote from: Allie24 on September 29, 2017, 07:54:05 PM
Thank you all for your advice... I really needed some talking down there. About twenty four hours after publishing the initial post I was able to get my head straight. I'm not going to castrate myself... as desperate as I feel to have something done I'm willing to wait until a doctor can do it properly.

I have an unhealthy obsession with annihilation. I fear everything I know and love disappearing. I'm sure it has a lot more to do with me, though, than the rest of the world, and this is something I will definitely be bringing up with my therapist.

I just hate having this thing attached to me like some toxic growth that is going to poison my body if I don't take my spiro... ugh. To have it done away with will be a mercy.

Hi Allie,

  I have stayed away from this post for reasons I need not go into.  I just want to say that having such radical thoughts are not unknown to me. There was a time that I too thought of ordering one of those contraptions. I went as far as doing a little research to look into it. This occurred before I discovered I am trans. I didn't and still don't like those orbs and have wanted them gone for a long time. eventually I decided using that device was not the way to go about getting rid of them. Although I would still like them gone I hesitate because I haven't come to a decision about having GCS where having them removed now may cause problems with GCS if I eventually want to have it  done.

  As for your "unhealthy obsession with annihilation" let me put forward the idea that you do not need an apocalypse to have your world come crashing down around you. I have had mine crumble before my eyes and it was caused by myself. I had my own nuclear meltdown over it. It hasn't been any fun at all and I have now asked my therapist's help in rebuilding it.

I hope you are feeling and thinking better Allie and if you aren't please ask for help.

Hugs,
   Laurie

I was hoping I wouldn't live past 30 (depressed). Fortunately or unfortunately I did, and I only started caring about an "apocalypse" because I felt there was things I still wanted to do and see, and that I'd finally started to feel better about life in general and the future looked pretty grim really.

In 2014-15 my hormones crashed after quitting BC pills, and I immediately experienced severe intrusive thoughts about apocalyptic scenarios - civil wars, nukes, bank crashes, the works. I'm fairly convinced now that low hormones makes a person almost sick with anxiety and makes them think about these things. On HRT now and I've barely had a thought towards any of that stuff.

What are your hormone levels like? Might be something to do with that.

If you really fear a catastrophe, castrating yourself would be the worst thing... you'd no longer be able to produce your own hormones, and there wouldn't be any to be got from the medical centers if there was difficulty sourcing those. And living without your major hormone-producing organs, whether it's T or E - you need it or you will become ill. I know from experience what very low hormone levels are like and it's pretty rough. One reason I'd kind of like to keep some organs intact in there... if I can't get T for whatever reason, at least I wouldn't be hormonally crippled in a shortage scenario. I felt like death warmed up most days when I experienced that.

Quote from: Viktor on September 30, 2017, 08:53:00 PM

What are your hormone levels like? Might be something to do with that.

I'm have been on HRT for two years. I had done research about male castration. The effects of it are preferred to the effect of masculinization. Testosterone is a very potent substance and it does some really bad things. It is something I'd rather be rid of.

But hormones aren't the cause of this. I've had these thoughts since I was 12. It's something deeper than that.

Quote from: Julia1996 on September 27, 2017, 07:18:05 PM
Actually if you think about it, the day you die is the day the world ends for you.

That reminds me of something Ayn Rand said. Something to the effect that when one dies, the world goes away.

Quote from: Allie24 on September 30, 2017, 09:15:19 PM
I'm have been on HRT for two years. I had done research about male castration. The effects of it are preferred to the effect of masculinization. Testosterone is a very potent substance and it does some really bad things. It is something I'd rather be rid of.

Its effects may be unwanted but I don't think any doctor would advise a person to try to live without sufficient T or E. You would need additional hormone given externally to be healthy.

QuoteBut hormones aren't the cause of this. I've had these thoughts since I was 12. It's something deeper than that.

I'm not an expert, but this fell under "generalized anxiety" when I was speaking to a therapist about it - not a fear or phobia of a particular event, but of something bad happening in general that would cause disruption, loss, chaos.

There are people who do live without it though. Male-to-Eunuch gender dysphoria is an actual phenomenon. Some simply taken anti-androgen blockers or have a full orchiectomy.

I'm serious when I say that I would never, ever want to have testosterone in my body again. I'd rather be castrated and without estrogen, than full of testosterone.

Menopause is a terrible thing to go through. I tried it once and I would prefer not to do it again. Beside that, your femininity isn't locked in and without some estrogen in your system, your body will relocate fat.

In my case, I was very careful to get enough calcium and vitamin D in my diet to prevent bone damage. I suspect there may also be a gene involved in this as well so some people are more susceptible than others. In any case, they will have to take my estrogen from my cold dead hands!