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Started by Izzy Grace, October 07, 2017, 01:20:24 PM

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Izzy Grace

Hi. I am 40 and I am some form of MtF.

My dysphoria has been here in some form since I was in 2nd or 3rd grade but it really hit in my preteens. I didn't understand and there was no internet and no one to ask. I spent a lifetime thinking I was weird, keeping it all hidden away and, as much as I could, keeping it suppressed. I've done a lot of damage suppressing and hiding things. Frankly looking back people have always commented on it despite how well I thought I was doing. I think I was in some kind of self Stepford wifeian denial. It's incredible what denial can achieve in your mind. I can no longer deny what I am. Recently too many experiences have come together and transgender rights, science, and issues are a mainstay in society that I have had a kind of self-awakening.

What I have to do now is figure out where I am in the spectrum exactly.

I've been writing a document, a kind of backwards diary of all the moments I can remember where I had experiences or feelings of dysphoria. I'm also adding to it when I read something that resonates with me I previously was unaware of and then going back and reconstituting those moments and feelings into that document.

Yesterday I found a therapist and confirmed their transgender safeness with the local LGBTQ equality group. I called and left a message but have not heard back yet.

I think I need to try dressing up, which I haven't done since I was young and haven't really ever done properly and see how I feel. I am married, she doesn't know. I have family living with me and they don't know. I live in a terrible place for this. I'll have to keep this more obscured as a result, but maybe I can find a livable balance.

Admitting this to myself has brought on a flood of new feelings. How I find myself compelled to all kinds of things and feelings now. Playing around with tucking in the bathroom. Hating my body hair much more than before. Peeling layers away.

I posted what I wish someone would have said to me on a post Roll made. It's one of the first times I've ever let my more female side have the wheel for a minute since I was a kid and learned that would get me abused by them.

I'm in a storm at sea. I can deal with this personally. Frankly, it's a relief in a big way. It's the people around me. That's devastatingly terrifying. I know... I've read enough posts here to know someone will say "you have to be true to you" but I also know many of you will know and understand exactly how it's just not going to be that easy.

What else would you like to know? I can't give too much specific information for my safety and the safety of my life's current conditions, but I will try.
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Dena

Welcome to Susan's Place. It's not so much what I want to know about you because this is a decision you need to make for yourself. There are a few things for you to consider.

The first is what are you dysphoric about. Some of us are uncomfortable with features of our bodies. Others are uncomfortable with the role we play in life. If there is something else that makes you uncomfortable, I would be interested in knowing as I haven't seen anything other than those two.

Next I have the two standard links you should review as they are a very good starting place. The first is our WIKI where you will learn what is transgender. The second link is "the transition channel" where a gender therapist will help you explore your feelings.

Most important, keep asking questions and looking at the site. Another experiences may trigger something in your mind and the questions you ask will help make the picture clearer.
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HappyMoni

Hi Katie,
   Welcome to you. My name is Monica. I am glad to see you letting yourself out for a spin around the boards. You are right nothing is easy or convenient to our lives when it comes to trans issues. It is so good to talk to others who understand trans feelings though. What your feelings mean in your life, only you will know and you may not know for a while. When you are faced with an inconvenient reality of life, it is best to figure out how to cope. I spent 50 years running from myself. Even if I had never taken any actions about being trans, running from it was not an answer in my opinion. Glad you are here. Good luck.
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Megan.

Hi Katie [emoji4].  I'm a 40 y/o mtf in the UK.
You've found a great spot on the Web to pitch up,  we don't bite[emoji6]
There's plenty of great info here,  that should help you find your way forward. X

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V M

Hi Katie  :icon_wave:

Welcome to Susan's Place  :)  Glad to have you here, join on in the fun

Hugs

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Izzy Grace

Hey, thanks everybody. It's been nice to be here and read and tsay some things. Though, I'm not sure if I should be saying much yet. I'm so unsure. I'm trying to be more cautious as I navigate.

I appreciate the warmth and greeting. I read all the links posted by two different people here in the Transgender Talk thread concerning the rules and the ranks and all.

Quote from: Dena on October 07, 2017, 01:32:54 PM
The first is what are you dysphoric about. Some of us are uncomfortable with features of our bodies. Others are uncomfortable with the role we play in life. If there is something else that makes you uncomfortable, I would be interested in knowing as I haven't seen anything other than those two.

Next I have the two standard links you should review as they are a very good starting place. The first is our WIKI where you will learn what is transgender. The second link is "the transition channel" where a gender therapist will help you explore your feelings.

Most important, keep asking questions and looking at the site. Another experiences may trigger something in your mind and the questions you ask will help make the picture clearer.

I will check out those links ASAP!

Well I didnt want to write a whole novel, heh. Actually, I can share with you this thing I've been writing. I just dont want it to get out but its got everything in it, but there are things in it that could out me.??

I plan to keep working on this and its been consuming my thoughts since I really had this awakening. Rachel put it a way in her thread which I read tonight. i had clipped this bit because it so much better said what I've noticed but had trouble putting into words:

"I started writhing down my history and then a flood of things came in. Volumes of things I surpressed. Refused to remember, did not happen if I could not remember. I looked over what I wrote and thought. I am a complete fraud, chicken and transgender. "
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Dena

Post as much or as little as you are comfortable with. In my first two days on the site I made 22 post and my current average for my total time on the site is 14+ posts a day. As long as they are meaningful posts, we have no problem with you spilling out years of accumulated thoughts.

It's a little different in my case as I came to the site as a know it all and instead of kicking me off the site, they pined this moderator badge on me as punishment.  ;D

You will find very few of us who faced up to the fact we were transgender at an early age. All of us understand that we don't fit into societies idea of normal and it isn't going to be easy to deal with the problems that will occur. Often it's a matter of waiting for the proper time and that can take more inner strength and courage than most people have. One of my sayings is the worst thing you could wish on another person is that they be transgender.
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Izzy Grace

Yeah, I have alot to learn. ;)

Those videos were very helpful. Her other videos are even more helpful. Things I needed to hear. It's hard to navigate my mind about what I felt through all the repression and guilt/shame at the time. I kind of feel like I've been the victim of brainwashing sometimes.

It's possible some element of my story could be a trigger issue as I was bullied and the victim of violence and constant ridicule. I will try to limit the details, just wanted to warn you.

I've never liked my body hair or the hair on my head. I hate my huge feet. I don't like my build, everything is so big and tall.

I've always wanted to be a girl, but I thought I was sick or wrong. I knew it was wrong to everyone else. They were already picking on me and bullying me. Calling me "->-bleeped-<-" and "homo" and things like "Alice". "You stand like a girl" or "You act gay" or "Thats girl ->-bleeped-<-". My girlfriends and friends would just tell me I was just more effeminate and sensitive. I would make excuses. "I was raised by my mother alone." Things like that. I tried very hard for decades to kill my overly feminine presentation and traits to stop these comments, to stop them noticing me. In order to get by, to survive, and I would never equate the two. It's caused a lot of issues I think.

When I was younger and could "get away with it" I would wear women's underwear and tuck my penis when I was alone. I shaved my legs but the boys in gym noticed so I had to stop. When I was first married I could wear her stuff, which I did when she wasn't around but that got harder after we had our kid and I got bigger than her and I was almost never home alone.

I spent alot my free time as a teen on in chats pretending to be a girl.

I've envied girls my whole life. I used to try to wish hard enough that I'd wake up female. "They had it all, and none of these negatives", I would think. I've told about every girlfriend I ever had that I wished I could just be absorbed into their bodies and be a part of them and I think I really meant this as love, it was love-wise, but now I'm suspicious if it wasnt in part my longing to be them.

It seems, at least for me, missing parts bother me more than having a penis does. I don't know what that means, if anything, but my longing for breasts and a vagina has always been far stronger than my feelings about my penis. I didnt hate my penis, but I didnt love it either. It was more like I had been given the wrong luggage. I could wear the male clothing but I really wanted to get my luggage back, but that wasn't possible because I was well aware by the time I knew I felt this way, that this was essentially like a crime. I still want that luggage though, I'd trade right now, because waking up a girl wouldnt be my fault, they couldnt blame me, they might even just accept me. All my fear is based on how those closest to me will react.

I never liked my balls though, its like because I knew that's where all the maleness came from I've always kind of had a kind of contempt for them. Thier really gross. I've often commented to girlfriends that I wish I could just get rid of them. "Thier useless and have caused me so much trouble", I would say. They would just laugh. My wife told me once that sex was discomforting and I spent a month or two researching penial reduction surgery, which I can tell you, basically doesn't exist and the people who answer the phones at the enlargement surgery places acted pretty awkward about me inquiring about it. I could never tell a single male friend about that research. So this a hard question to answer.

I never not played a female video game character if one was available. And towards the end of this last year I played a particularly immersive story driven game where the protaganist is a girl and had alot of feelings come out. I WAS that girl and I had some real backsliding on feminine feelings and I got pretty confused and spent every waking moment playing this game and when it was over I had essentially a mourning period. It really messed me up.

Backstory, one night my wife showed me transition videos. I've watched them every so often ever since. I know I thought right away, i would do this. I saw Emma, shes from Norway, and she got to go female before her male hormones really came too hard and I was so jealous. To go back to that age and change, you cant even tell. "In a minute", I thought.

When the video game thing happened, a couple of months later I just started to have a stumbling. My feed is often filled with LGBTQ issues and I'd been reading through comments. Watching transition videos. Googling. Having these thoughts and it all just clicked when I read a piece over on Medium that felt similar enough that I kind of freaked out. I panicked so bad I was flailing about mentally. Trying to find someone to talk to. So I started writing the piece I mentioned, this post is maybe 40% of it, and looking for a place to read and talk to others to try and quell these mental white water rapids I'm on.

I found Susan's.
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Dena

You have found the right place to deal with being transgender. If you should need proof, start reading the introductions. After you get past a few hundred, you will discover they tell much the same story and your story  matches their story. This is nothing new as I saw the same thing in my therapy group long before the public internet existed. Take your time and don't worry about why you are this way. Instead work on what you are going to do about it. That will be your key to happiness.
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Izzy Grace

Also, I just choose katie on a whim and have no attachment to it... I don't know if that's the name I want, but I didnt want to take a male name. I dont think i should choose yet. I hope its okay if it might change.
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Roll

Quote from: katiekatt on October 07, 2017, 07:37:11 PM
Hey, thanks everybody. It's been nice to be here and read and tsay some things. Though, I'm not sure if I should be saying much yet. I'm so unsure. I'm trying to be more cautious as I navigate.

Hi again Katie! <3

When I first started posting here I was so terrified it was unreal. I was terrified of who I was. I was terrified of people in my life finding out. I was just plain terrified of everything. A lot of the introductions from people earlier on in the exploration process are the same way. Those feelings of being unsure are normal, and being cautious as you feel things out is smart.

It's hard when you go your entire life without expressing such a key part of yourself to suddenly just overnight be able to throw caution to the wind and embrace it. I'm still very much learning to do so and hold back a lot, though it has been amazing progression for me nonetheless, as I actually just posted a picture of myself the other day! I'm not suggesting you have to do the same or anything, simply wanting to convey that you will find your comfort level overtime, and it may surprise you. :)

(It also helped me to realize that if anyone in my life does happen to find what I've written here... well, what were they doing here to begin with? ;D)
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Dena

Quote from: katiekatt on October 08, 2017, 02:01:22 PM
Also, I just choose katie on a whim and have no attachment to it... I don't know if that's the name I want, but I didnt want to take a male name. I dont think i should choose yet. I hope its okay if it might change.
All you have to do is let a moderator know your new name. It can't be used by anybody else and naturally it has to be socially acceptable. It just takes us a couple of minutes to change it. In the upper right hand conner there is a members tab. That will allow you to see if the name is available.
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Izzy Grace

Quote from: Roll on October 08, 2017, 02:06:31 PM
Hi again Katie! <3
I'm still very much learning to do so and hold back a lot, though it has been amazing progression for me nonetheless, as I actually just posted a picture of myself the other day! I'm not suggesting you have to do the same or anything, simply wanting to convey that you will find your comfort level overtime, and it may surprise you. :)

I saw your before after makeup post Roll, it was amazing. This place is so great and such an uplift everyday, and I learn something everyday too about myself and about our collective journies! I dont know what I would do without it!

Thank you all so much!
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Katie Jade

Welcome girl
Your story rings so many bells for me so I hope you really  talk to the right help on your issues, but in reality they aren't your issues, you are like us in that the issues are with society in general  ignoring us or not understanding us. Just be true to your heart and life will get you through (avoid dodgy places late at night etc).  wW at all here to help each other so you can ask difficult questions and fun ones etc (within the terms of use obviously)
Good Luck have fun
Hugz
Katie Jade  :angel: :angel: :angel: :angel: :angel:

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Izzy Grace

I asked a difficult one earlier in the MtF sub-board of the transexual section and then got embarrassed and removed it. I know, silly. Maybe I'll repost it.

My emotions are all over the place.

Thanks for the kind words and the support, everyone!
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Izzy Grace

Sorry for a double post but didnt want to hijack the thread and just realized:

I didnt even know you could go on hormones without the clear intention to transition ASAP. Can you try hormones for a couple of months and see? Would people be able to notice, is it the kind of thing you should be "out" for?
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Dena

Often people start HRT 6 to 12 months before going full time in order to improve their appearance and making it a bit easer to pass. We have members who have gone for years on HRT without transitioning and without going public. Testing for a short period of time has the associated risk that once you start, you  may not want to stop. The hormones are not addictive but the mental improvement can be after living years with depression. I went a couple of years without  transitioning because the treatment I received didn't affect my appearance that much. Even after about 5 years, I wasn't fully filling out a AA bra.
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Bari Jo

Welcome Katie, you've come to the right place.  Many of us have similar stories and similar issues.  It's really helped me, and I'm sure it'll help you also.

I love the name Katie Katt too, consider keeping it!

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Izzy Grace

Another person said it in a thread that they were worried baout living up to thier chosen name. Its just something I picked in a kind of hurried frenzy when asked on a site, and I almost have some strange worry about living up to it. I, very slyly, asked my mom what she would have named me if I had been a girl and she answered immediately, Amber. So I've been conflicted. Should I take the helm like I'm taking the helm or should I take what was almost mine?

I spent some time like I used to in junior high (writing on my notebook) only on a pad this time practicing writing my name in both... I must work on my handwriting!  I'm still conflicted. I think it will come with time.
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JennyBear

Quote from: katiekatt on October 11, 2017, 07:51:28 PM
Another person said it in a thread that they were worried baout living up to thier chosen name. Its just something I picked in a kind of hurried frenzy when asked on a site, and I almost have some strange worry about living up to it. I, very slyly, asked my mom what she would have named me if I had been a girl and she answered immediately, Amber. So I've been conflicted. Should I take the helm like I'm taking the helm or should I take what was almost mine?

I spent some time like I used to in junior high (writing on my notebook) only on a pad this time practicing writing my name in both... I must work on my handwriting!  I'm still conflicted. I think it will come with time.

Hello and Welcome Katie,

    I joined this forum only the day before you did. So I'm a noob too. We seem to have a fair amount in common, such as having a wife and gaming. Feel free to buddy me (or not) if you choose.

    With regards to your name: It only needs to be thought of as permanent if you are planning a legal name change soon. While it can get confusing to others if constantly changed, it's still your decision. As far as your Mom having picked out Amber, if it doesn't suit the inner you (personality,) you could always take it as a middle name. I did the same thing. Take some time for self reflection and try out a bunch of different names, say in front of a mirror when "dressed," similar to how some parents pick out the names of their children. More than likely, one will suit you more than others. You then get to choose spelling, short or long version (Katie, Katherine, Kathleen, etc.) The choices are endless. Just make sure you don't settle on one that causes you torment for one reason or another.

    With regards to hormones, if you want to dip your toes in the water so to speak, anti-androgens such as Spironolactone and/or Finasteride may help. In fact they are often prescribed weeks or months in advance of estrogen as their effects are easily reversible. Some of us (myself included) have particulars in our biochemistry that make the effects of estrogen or progesterone obvious rather quickly. For me it was the fact that they stored dormant in my fat cells from the first time I attempted (unsuccessfully) to transition. I went from having pecs to a small A cup after just a couple months on anti-androgens as the stored estrogen in my fat cells was released. 2 months on Estradiol and I'm almost a B cup, so nearly impossible to hide completely. But cases like mine are exceedingly rare. They all have health risks, though usually minor, an underlying health issue you already have could limit your options and dosage. Ultimately, it is up to you, your mental health professional, and your doctor what you do. Hope this helps. Stay Safe.

HUGS!
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