I was self conscious the first few months. An STP is just super inconvenient and  in my opinion unsanitary. I go to a stall and sit to pee and don't think twice about it. If you are at the point where you 100% are read as male by folks you gotta realize that it would never occur to most of them that a possible explanation for you sitting to pee is that you are trans. Most cis people are so clueless about it. They have an assumption of what we look like and think they can easily pick us out of a crowd, hence the bathroom controversy we saw a year or so ago.

Also some cis men sit to pee for comfort or medical reasons. In fact there are medical professionals out there that say men should sit to pee for health. If anyone ever made a remark to me I'd probably say prostate problems and watch them sheepishly slink away.

While I do still worry unreasonably even after several years, I worry more that I am using toilet paper after I pee. If nobody is in the bathroom, I grab a hunk of TP first so that a newcomer won't hear me spinning the roll.

I have been using the men's for over 2 yrs and never had a problem; guys go in there to pee and get out as fast as they can, no chatting, looking around all business.  I sit all the time, never found a stp that really works for me.  The first time I had to pee so bad that I went immediately and then realized that I am peeing in the men's and doesn't it sound any different, who will know, etc.  No one looked or said anything to me ever.  I have at times had to change a tampon in there as well with no problems, rapped the old one up well and stuck it the trash.

Honestly, it seems that most men DGAF what's going on in the mens room.  It seems like they just want to do their business and leave.

Ryuichi

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Quote from: mm on November 25, 2017, 03:52:58 PM
I am peeing in the men's and doesn't it sound any different, who will know, etc.

^^ Exactly.

I would like to meet the Holmesian level detective who outs someone in the men's room by the sound of their peeing.

Quote from: Arch on November 25, 2017, 03:07:21 PM
While I do still worry unreasonably even after several years, I worry more that I am using toilet paper after I pee. If nobody is in the bathroom, I grab a hunk of TP first so that a newcomer won't hear me spinning the roll.

I've at times in the past carried a travel size pack of tissues in my back pocket for this.

I use the stalls in the men's room as well since I've started transitioning and I didn't have phalloplasty yet either so I am in the same unfortunate situation.
I don't get anxiety at all even though I did have some paranoid thoughts and occasionally still get them.

But in reality no one ever cared and no one paid attention to me just as I didn't pay any attention to them. So no, no one has ever noticed or even taken a weird look at me in the men's room.
In the women's room before I transitioned on the other hand I got stared at and had to deal with teenage girls shocked screeching when I entered and a lady who wanted to send me away. And then there were some experiences where some weird women wanted to engage in a conversation with me in a public restroom when I just wanted to do my business and get out of there as soon as possible. Honestly the men's room is much less bothersome!

I feel highly uncomfortable and inadequate for having to sit down though but that has nothing to do with any other men in the restroom at all, it is internal and due to my severe bottom dysphoria that makes me feel like garbage for having this wrong, useless equipment that forces me to pee like a chick.
I don't use STP's either even though I have that extreme bottom dysphoria because I find them impractical and incredibly unhygienic.

With that being said I will still use the stalls when I will finally have had phalloplasty later for a simple reason: I hate it to have people in my back where I can't see them when I am doing something, no matter what it is I am doing. Hence I'd still voluntarily use the stalls to pee but I would never sit to pee again.

Frankly I learned early on, if I pee at the trough, I will end up with pee all over me. So I have been sitting to pee forever.

Quote from: Arch on November 25, 2017, 03:07:21 PM
While I do still worry unreasonably even after several years, I worry more that I am using toilet paper after I pee. If nobody is in the bathroom, I grab a hunk of TP first so that a newcomer won't hear me spinning the roll.

I shouldn't worry about that, I used to have a Prince Albert piercing, one of the downside of which is that it makes the initial flow of the the stream somewhat unpredictable. So I just got into the habit of sitting to pee for cleanliness sake, and the clean up (drying the jewellery, so as to not have drips of urine running down your leg) afterwards always required toilet paper.

For 4 years before I started to transition Mtf I sat down to pee. My prostate was giving me problems and all standing up did was create a mess to clean up. No one will care.