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Started by Minestrone, November 28, 2017, 11:29:10 AM

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Minestrone

Hello,

I am new to this website, and so hopefully I am posting this question in the right area.

From what I have read, hot flashes are triggered by a drop in Estrogen? However, my estrogen levels have always been low, as I have been trying to lower testosterone levels first. I am taking estradiol but it is just not high enough to cause a hot flash, right? I started taking lupron 7 days ago, which unfortunately raises your T levels before dropping them.

So, could my Hot flashes be caused by a sudden drop in T levels? I am not sure if this is the case, as I woke up again today with the annoying male urge.

My hot flash started when I was sitting on a chair, as I started to sweat for no reason. This symptom was followed by waves of chills on my chest, back, arms, and face. I started to sweat constantly for like 15 - 20 minutes. It felt like I was in a fridge or something. This is a hot flash though, right?

Hopefully I am not breaking any rules by mentioning the low and highs of hormone levels. I believe it is against the rules if you mention numbers. I could not find a rules area, so this is all guessing.

Thanks.
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Deborah

Mentioning your body level of hormones is ok.  You just can't list dosages.

I have never heard of testosterone levels causing hot flashes.  Have you had a recent blood test and do you know what your estradiol and testosterone levels are?


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KayXo

Hot flashes is a result of either too little T or E, another symptom is night sweats.
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Minestrone

Quote from: Deborah on November 28, 2017, 11:32:35 AM
Mentioning your body level of hormones is ok.  You just can't list dosages.

I have never heard of testosterone levels causing hot flashes.  Have you had a recent blood test and do you know what your estradiol and testosterone levels are?


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I asked my doctor but she said it was too early to get one. I messaged her about the hot flashes but I haven't heard back from her. I didn't know what else to do so I came here.
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Minestrone

Quote from: KayXo on November 28, 2017, 12:07:32 PM
Hot flashes is a result of either too little T or E, another symptom is night sweats.

I haven't had any night sweats thankfully. When I googled hot flashes, I did find an article about men getting them, but it could be wrong? I don't know. I guess it could be low blood pressure. I hope you are right, because it would definitely make me feel a lot better.
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Minestrone

My testosterone levels the last time I checked where 280 while Estrogen was 50. Was it ok to type the amount? It is not dosages so I think it is ok?

Sorry for taking so long to reply.
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KayXo

I am not a medical doctor, nor a scientist - opinions expressed by me on the subject of HRT are merely based on my own review of some of the scientific literature over the last decade or so, on anecdotal evidence from women in various discussion forums that I have come across, and my personal experience

On HRT since early 2004
Post-op since late 2005
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Deborah

The Lupron can cause hot flashes.  That's probably the culprit.

QuoteCommon Lupron side effects may include:

hot flashes, sweating, acne, rash, itching;

https://www.drugs.com/lupron.html


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Minestrone

Quote from: KayXo on November 28, 2017, 02:26:43 PM
Those levels seem low, to me.

The estrogen or the testosterone? They have at those levels for 2 months
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Cindy

Hi Hon,

I suspect that you may have started HRT recently and your body maybe adjusting to changes in the balance of the sex  hormones.

Hot flushes can occur as your body adjusts. I would make an appointment to see your medic and get their reassurance that nothing else is wrong. Keep hydrated with water and your body will probably adjust soon.

HRT can be quite a ride!
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Minestrone

Quote from: Deborah on November 28, 2017, 02:32:39 PM
The Lupron can cause hot flashes.  That's probably the culprit.


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So it is not caused by low T or E? I guess that is good. Honestly, I was hoping my T levels dropped, as the testosterone flare effect from lupron has been a nightmare.
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Deborah

I don't think you will necessarily get hot flashes from dropping T levels.  I never did.  Your estradiol could be higher but it may be high enough to counteract the dropping T levels as far as hot flashes go. 

But I'm not a Dr. so my opinion is just based on personal experience.

It's probably nothing to urgently be concerned about since it is a known side effect of your medication.  If it continues maybe your Dr can suggest something.


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Minestrone

Quote from: Cindy on November 28, 2017, 02:37:13 PM
Hi Hon,

I suspect that you may have started HRT recently and your body maybe adjusting to changes in the balance of the sex  hormones.

Hot flushes can occur as your body adjusts. I would make an appointment to see your medic and get their reassurance that nothing else is wrong. Keep hydrated with water and your body will probably adjust soon.

HRT can be quite a ride!

I have been on HRT for 2 years unfortunately. When I first started I was using patches, but that ended up causing liver issues.

For some reason, spiro had a hard time lowering testosterone levels. It took months of doing blood tests, and upping the dosage to get it to the current levels. I am hoping lupron will work.

Thank you for the information!
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Minestrone

Quote from: Deborah on November 28, 2017, 02:42:44 PM
I don't think you will necessarily get hot flashes from dropping T levels.  I never did.  Your estradiol could be higher but it may be high enough to counteract the dropping T levels as far as hot flashes go. 

But I'm not a Dr. so my opinion is just based on personal experience.

It's probably nothing to urgently be concerned about since it is a known side effect of your medication.  If it continues maybe your Dr can suggest something.


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Alright, thank you for the information!
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Dena

I have had hot flashes from both drops in T and E. T happened after GCS and E when I went off hormone therapy. That type of hot flash can last a year or two before your body adjusts to the new levels. The levels don't have to zero out as I was having hot flashes with a feminine level of T in my system.
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Ellement_of_Freedom

Quote from: KayXo on November 28, 2017, 12:07:32 PM
Hot flashes is a result of either too little T or E, another symptom is night sweats.
I agree.


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Bari Jo

Back when I was in DIY mode and talked myself out of transitioning, each time quitting I had hot flashes and night sweats.  It lasted about a month each time.  I didn't taper off, cold turkey each time.  That was probably not the best thing to do health wise.  Now I know any time I experience this I'll ask my doctor.

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judithlynn

Hi Minestrone;
Yes probably either too low Oestrogen (Estrogen) or Testosterone. When you start Oestrogen it will take time for your body to adjust to the new hormone levels. As your T drops and the Oestrogen (Oestrogen) becomes the dominant  hormone you may get night sweats and hot flashes as well, but as long as you stay hydrated this will soon pass.  But if some reason  you cannot take your Oestrogen then whats in the body will drop and  over time you will find yourself with symptoms such as rashes, itching hot flashes etc. This happened to me last year when I got admitted to hospital for a while with an infection. Basically my doctor wanted me to stop my Oestrogen tablets for a week. But after being discharged it took about 9 days for my body to re-adjust. These days my T level is under 1.0 and my Oestrogen is 608. Plus I am now on Progesterone as well (this is met 21st day) and I feel just wonderfully feminine!.
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Pisces228

I used to get hot flashes all the time.  I was feminizing well on the dose of hrt I was on but my Dr doubled it because of my menopausal symptoms.  They stopped within 1 week after the increase.
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Laurie

Quote from: Minestrone on November 28, 2017, 02:45:57 PM
Alright, thank you for the information!

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