Having a micro penis is rare, and according to the Kinsey Institute for Research in Sex, Gender, and Reproduction, affects around 0.6 percent of the world's male population.

Wouldn't you know it. I would be one of the blessed 0.6 percent. Blessed? Not really. It's been a point of contention all my life. The statistics say I am more or less alone. But I was curious as another symptom of DES poisoning does anyone else have a micro penis,or had it removed? No not trying the macho thing in comparing sizes but rather trying to understand why I am me.  At this point I am at the point of HRt that it just does not  bother me any more but it would be nice to know, like being trans, I am not alone. I hope the subject is not too embarrassing to admit as I know acknowledging it might be intimidating.  Thanks in advance

I'm 40, and to the best of my knowledge am not a victim of DES.
I am very small however (bottom 1.5% on size), though not officially 'micro'.
When I was younger I was conscious that I would never be able to satisfy anyone. But I did have a marriage that produced two wonderful children.
I was also born mildly intersex (intermediate hypospadia), the doctors performed two corrective surgeries before the age of 3, including a circumcision.
I've found my small size to be useful in transition; I've never been able to 'tuck',  but have never really needed to either, a good pair of control knickers keeps stuff pretty smooth.
I've wondered many times if there is any physiological connection between my sexual development and my gender identity; I am 46XY.

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I'm 61 and was exposed to DES.  My future vaginal canal is about 5.5" and my labia tissue is quite large but shrinking.  Lol
Jessica

Megan  Jessica  Thank you for your comments. Megan I too, have two outstanding children. I am blessed beyond all hopes as they have become outstanding adults. It is still sort of immaculate conception to me. Like basketball where it dribbles on the rim before falling in.

I was a DES baby but did not experience that symptom.  Physically, that part of my body seems pretty normal to the best of my knowledge.  The only external physical symptoms I have that I know of is pretty sparse body hair and an arm carrying angle typical of females, > 25 degrees.


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I had 0.75 inches of penile skin so I could not have the inverted penile method. ( Dr. McGinn tried to save the skin, it had no vascular support and it died. It was graphed in my vginal canal. When she removed it she held it up in the exam light, looked at it and said, it had no vascular support,  puney, and put it in the trash). I am 13 months post op. Dr. McGinn did my surgery. I have another surgery April 4th with Dr. McGinn to lower my urethera ( it was inside me pretty deep from the operation and swelling), fix a small issue with my cliteral hood (small hole), remove a lot of scar tissue ( I did not have much scrotal tissue) and close off the bottom of my labial majora ( that is going to cut about 4 inches in diameter around the bottom half of the vaginal canal and reposition and make the labia majoria).

Dr. McGinn said, you know you are intersexed and have unique genitals, when I first saw her. One week after the operation she stitched me up. My sister is a Nurse and almost passed out. They closed off the vagina on each side. Dr. McGinn sat back and said to herself several times I did it. I was in the proceedure room in their office and she said now talk to me about what you know about your genitals. I told her that I always had an issue peeing. It took me a very long time. The hole was very small and on the under side of my glands penis. I had a UTI at age 12 and had an operation because the smallest pediatric cathiter was too big. They made another hole in front and closed off the bottom. Dr. McGinn said everything about your genitals and that area is unique. She showed me some things I had no knowledge others were made differently. I have a lot of fat in the area. SHe said females have that amount of fat. My scrotal graph lived. Dr. McGinn thought that it was going to die and she was going to have to use another graph.

Anyhow, I am on the 4th dot of the orange dillator, my goal is the 5th dot. I am almost in tears when I put the dilator in which is slow and always with another dilator before I use orange( when the scar tissue shrank at about 2 months I would have tears running down my face when I dilated). The large amount of scar tissue on the bottom on the vaginal canal is painful and I have a scar tissue ring. I was less than 4 inches when the operation was done. I think it was 3.75 inches. I was not allowed to push for 2 weeks when dilating and then I was shown how hard to push and after my 3 month check up. I could push hard.

I had an insey penis. It was always in so I could be in a bathing suit and there would be just the smallest dot showing, not a buldge, just a dot bump. My gonads were up most of the time. I was able to have a child after 6 years of marriage.

The last time I was with a guy I was in college. I picked him up at woodies in the gayborhood and we went to his place near by. After he was serviced he insisted on me. I refused several times and then I said ok. He took a look and said what is the use. I got dressed and left.

I am so incredably anxious to get my bottom finally fixed. When Dr. McGinn is done I will have a pretty awesone vagina. She has really supported me through all of this. 

After 8 months on HRT I had no body hair and less arm hair that a cis woman.

I am pretty sure I was a DES baby.  My equipment seemed, prior to HRT, to be in the normal range, though nothing to brag about.  My external signs are sparse body hair, female pubic hair pattern and female digit ratio.

 I saw a urologist a few months ago he knew I was MTF before we meet. As part of the examination he asked me to lower my panties  when he  looked he asked when I had surgery, I told him I'm still waiting to have it.  I've always been small down there but since HRT everything has shrunk and retracted and is not visible beneath the hair . 

I'm not intending to brag, but I was the opposite. My penis was ridiculously huge. People would freak out when I showed them it. After switching to hormone therapy, the size cut down to around 8 inches. I'm happy with that. I don't need people worrying about a python snooping around their back garden. The funny thing is, even after taking hormones, my penis was still bigger than my ex-boyfriend's penis. I could tell that made him feel very insecure.

xAmyX, at least you will have enough material when you have srs.

I'm a DES baby for sure and intersex. I didn't officially have a micro penis but it was barely 1.5 inches if that. Dr Bluebond-Langner took one look at me and said there wouldn't be enough material and she would have to do a skin graft. When I had my genital electrolysis at McGinn's Pappilon Center the nurse who injected a local took one look at me and asked when I had an orchi. I told her I hadn't and she was shocked and said that that I must be intersexed. My testicles just stayed up in there so I never really tucked and bathing suit were never a big issue pre-op.

After my GCS Dr Bluebond-Langner confirmed that I was intersex in that on the inside, the testes and everything was there, just not fully developed. However through skin grafts, she was able to get a little of 6" in depth and I've been able to maintain that so far and I'm on the 2nd largest dilator (green on my dilator kit with Orange bing the biggest.) She could not use most of my scrotum and barely had enough to form the labia. Even though I'm only 5½ weeks post op, I'm super thrilled with the results.

I had the hypospadia, but I was 10 weeks premature too. Penis is average, but looks small due to my size.


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Quote from: Sydney_NYC on December 09, 2017, 05:52:00 PM
I'm a DES baby for sure and intersex. I didn't officially have a micro penis but it was barely 1.5 inches if that. Dr Bluebond-Langner took one look at me and said there wouldn't be enough material and she would have to do a skin graft. When I had my genital electrolysis at McGinn's Pappilon Center the nurse who injected a local took one look at me and asked when I had an orchi. I told her I hadn't and she was shocked and said that that I must be intersexed. My testicles just stayed up in there so I never really tucked and bathing suit were never a big issue pre-op.

After my GCS Dr Bluebond-Langner confirmed that I was intersex in that on the inside, the testes and everything was there, just not fully developed. However through skin grafts, she was able to get a little of 6" in depth and I've been able to maintain that so far and I'm on the 2nd largest dilator (green on my dilator kit with Orange bing the biggest.) She could not use most of my scrotum and barely had enough to form the labia. Even though I'm only 5½ weeks post op, I'm super thrilled with the results.

I am so happy that everything is working out. I envy you. And everyone else who has sought their true identities.
In one of my encounters the woman looked down, started laughing, and asked if I was deformed. At the time I remember saying "yes" but that was 20 years before I knew why.

One of my early signs that I was trans happened in elementary school. The school doctor examined me and after I left the room, I overheard the doctor tell the nurse that I had a micro penis. Although I was by no means big, it turned out I didn't have a micro penis. The thing is, instead of it making me feel bad, it made me feel good. I liked the idea since I didn't want the thing anyway.
Moni

Call me miss stupid but what is DES! How would I know if I was intersex as I have little body hair very petite & most certainty has a micro

Diethylstilbestrol (DES) is a synthetic estrogen that was developed to supplement a woman's natural estrogen production. First prescribed by physicians in 1938 for women who experienced miscarriages or premature deliveries, DES was originally considered effective and safe for both the pregnant woman and the developing baby.
https://www.cdc.gov/des/consumers/about/index.html


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Quote from: coldHeart on December 10, 2017, 05:46:00 PM
Call me miss stupid but what is DES! How would I know if I was intersex as I have little body hair very petite & most certainty has a micro

I am not going to call you that because your not. The thread hasn't been active much lately so it's very likely you just missed it. HugeE is a great resource on this and has studied the subject a great deal. In any case, when you have some time you might want to look at the DES sons thread.

I have no idea if I was exposed to DES or not (even if my mother is still alive I have no interest in speaking to her, plus my father is useless and kept no records), though there is a chance I was. I was a little over 7" pre-HRT. I've no doubt shrunken a little.

Thanks dena, interesting read.

Quote from: Sarah_P on December 11, 2017, 10:01:12 AM
I have no idea if I was exposed to DES or not (even if my mother is still alive I have no interest in speaking to her, plus my father is useless and kept no records), though there is a chance I was. I was a little over 7" pre-HRT. I've no doubt shrunken a little.

DES was banned in the US by the FDA in 1972/73. Prior to that, it was even in prenatal vitamins and a lot of pregnant women were given DES this way and didn't even know it. It also caused a lot of problem with cervical and ovarian cancer in cis girls who where exposed to DES in the womb. Not every DES son turns out to be a transgender woman later, but it's a much higher amount than the general population.