Knowing or being diagnosed with GID and just seeking therapy to accept your natural body? What would be the advantages of that beside you don't have to put your body through changes. Is it for people who have GID but think its against their religion? Like "pray away the gay" Which seems (in my opinion to make things worse and also doesn't work and in many cases it has a sinister motive)?

De Transitioning: Is this for people who transitioned but for reason want to go back to their original sex? Why would you want to do that? Perhaps because you love your wife and its making her unhappy?

Some people might choose a non-transitioned life because the alternative, transitioning, would result in prison or death.  That actually happens in some countries.  Or maybe a child or teenager may opt for non-transition because their parents might kick them out of the house.  In that case it'd be a good idea to wait until adult age, become financially independent, then begin transition.

De-transition sometimes happens when a person later realizes they weren't trans after all.  They may have suffered from dissociative identity disorder, without realizing it, and confused an alternate opposite gender personality as their true self.  This is why therapy is important to help uncover potential underlying mental issues such as this.

Sometimes people also detransition if they become more miserable in their new life than their previous life.  This can happen sometimes if a person is unable to elicit correct gendering from others for persistent, extended periods of time.

Quote from: echo7 on December 14, 2017, 02:21:55 AM
Some people might choose a non-transitioned life because the alternative, transitioning, would result in prison or death.  That actually happens in some countries.  Or maybe a child or teenager may opt for non-transition because their parents might kick them out of the house.  In that case it'd be a good idea to wait until adult age, become financially independent, then begin transition.

De-transition sometimes happens when a person later realizes they weren't trans after all.  They may have suffered from dissociative identity disorder, without realizing it, and confused an alternate opposite gender personality as their true self.  This is why therapy is important to help uncover potential underlying mental issues such as this.

Sometimes people also detransition if they become more miserable in their new life than their previous life.  This can happen sometimes if a person is unable to elicit correct gendering from others for persistent, extended periods of time.

Thats seems really sad. I often wonder how passable I will be after I put alot of work into my voice mannerisms looks and a head start with good genetics. I always leave that 1% of doubt in my mind that I could still be happy if people just thought I was an effeminate gay or "sissy" as I like to call it. Is that a derogatory term? I used what seemed a totally normal term for something else on one of these forums and half the members flipped out for not using the "latest gender role condition labeling for safe spaces of sensitive cis-members of society as defined by internet blogs last year".
I kind of like sissy because it's degrading toward men actually(not women or what ever their complex argument was) but that has nothing to do with gender but rather a sexual preference I have towards myself so I can call myself what ever I want, that was my argument. Funny how things from your early childhood (when you have no concept of sex nor should you) stem out into sexual things in your adult life. Claustrophobia of being tied up turns into a bondage fetish.

It's not to accept one's natural body, but to understand oneself and accept who we are. If the body doesn't reflect our inner self, some make changes to the body through surgery , most don't. A lot more do other things like ffs, hair removal and/or hormones, but it's about who we are in our souls.


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Pretty much everything you said. Personally I'm not wild about the need to define it. If one identifies as trans in whatever flavor that's just a fact. Whatever choices one makes to address that are simply choices, only different from other choices in that some are regulated by medical practice standards. Most and yet definitely not all of us are different in biology, usually an early prenatal exposure to an unusual hormonal profile.

For my part, I spent untold hours in therapy and on my own time working to tease out whether my trans nature was fixed in biology or in my coincident attempts to find any way of being that could help me find distance from my effed-up childhood and a family that was abusive, sexist, misogynist, racist, homophobic etc etc. Either is a perfectly valid reason to find oneself to be trans and to transition however I was terrified of proceeding to the irreversible steps of long term hrt let alone GCS. And to be sure, I find that terror in myself to have elements of internalized transphobia.

I felt that to solve an emotionally based problem with hormones or surgeries didn't feel right to me -- not that I might not have decided to proceed to transition has we decided that was the cause, and not to say it would be wrong in any case.

However living in deep fear of detransition led me to be as thorough as I could about determining that I believe it's in fact biological in my case.

Quote from: echo7 on December 14, 2017, 02:21:55 AM

Sometimes people also detransition if they become more miserable in their new life than their previous life.  This can happen sometimes if a person is unable to elicit correct gendering from others for persistent, extended periods of time.

I absolutely get the frustrations with not passing but to detransition as a result sounds like it will send someone into a downward spiral.

I think some mtf detransition because they find life as a female to be harder or can't get a job in fields they've worked in before. Not having an income to survive because of discrimination is very scary.

There's so many factors and things that can come up. Everyone is unique

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There is no trans "Rule Book". No "How To" guide to find nirvana. We each have our own personal journeys to make. He each have our own unique set of oft time conflicting needs and wants. We try, or do various things to find or create some level of balance. Maintaining balance is dynamic, not static (or should not be). The essence of life is "Change".

I "Transitioned". Not in the way most here would assume. I am far from that lifeless, soulless "Thing" I was 9 years ago. I am a far different person on the inside for finding the will and the help to take on the Trans-Beast, for real. I still live and present primarily as male, the reality of my life and the compromises I make in order to balance out all the other important aspects of what makes me, Me. Part of me is gender ID. It is just a fraction of the totality. Most days I am lucky, the GD is not overwhelming. For me there is no "Need" to transition in order to survive, to rebalance. I sure would like to, in a perfect world. My world is far from perfect.