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Started by Flair, December 22, 2017, 04:39:25 PM

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Flair

First off, Hello I guess?  I've been lurking around here for a while, but finally decided to actually make an account because... I just wanted to talk to some other people I thought might understand, I guess.

Also, I know 'normal' is a totally loaded word, with a lot of extra connotations, but I'm not really sure how to phrase a lot of this just yet.

I'd rather not force everyone to read a novel, so I guess a tldr version might be this:

I've recently really begun struggling with the idea of Gender Identity and trying to figure out what is and isn't me.  I've had these moments on and off for years now, but my usual answer in the past was to stop thinking about and just bury the questions, because - holy crap, what would I do, right!?

However, after a really rough past year, I finally reached a point where I felt like I needed to face... all of this and figure out what the heck is going on.  I was born male, but since a really young age, I always kind of liked dressing up in women's clothes.  Once I found myself living on my own, I slowly built up a small feminine wardrobe.  And recently, I've found that I've been dressing as a woman every chance I get.  I've started trying to figure out make up.  I got a cheap wig.  I've started to realize I actually like how I look when I'm all dressed up; as opposed to just sort of accepting how I look.  I've already accepted that - to some extent - I am trans.  I'm still trying to nail down what exactly that means to me.  But the more time goes on, the more I feel like I want to transition - the more I find myself wishing I could wear women's clothes and make-up all the time.  The idea is very appealing.  But then I have those moments where I think to myself 'What am I doing?' or 'Is this really what I want?' or something along those lines.

I guess I was just wondering - is this normal?  Has anyone else ever felt like this?  Really confused and uncertain?  How did you handle it?

I know no one else can tell me what's right for me - that's on me.  But how do I know?  How did everyone else figure it out?
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KathyLauren

Hi, Flair!

Welcome to Susan's.

From your description, I don't think there is any doubt that you are trans.  You ask, "Has anyone else ever felt like this?"  Relax!  Just about all of us have felt this way.  I certainly did.

Yes, to the cross-dressing and just feeling totally natural and wanting to dress that way all the time.
Yes to wondering if it was "normal" and if anyone else felt the same way.
I have totally been there!

[edit] I should add that I wondered for many decades.  I didn't start my transition until I was 62.[/edit]

I handled it by realizing that I needed to transition.  I started hanging out here on Susan's to educate myself.  Then I came out to my wife, which was hard to do.  Then I got myself into therapy.

I highly recommend finding a gender therapist and seeing them regularly.  They can help you to claify what your goals are and how you want to accomplish them.


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LexiDreamer

Quote from: Flair on December 22, 2017, 04:39:25 PM
First off, Hello I guess?  I've been lurking around here for a while, but finally decided to actually make an account because... I just wanted to talk to some other people I thought might understand, I guess.

Also, I know 'normal' is a totally loaded word, with a lot of extra connotations, but I'm not really sure how to phrase a lot of this just yet.

I'd rather not force everyone to read a novel, so I guess a tldr version might be this:

I've recently really begun struggling with the idea of Gender Identity and trying to figure out what is and isn't me.  I've had these moments on and off for years now, but my usual answer in the past was to stop thinking about and just bury the questions, because - holy crap, what would I do, right!?

However, after a really rough past year, I finally reached a point where I felt like I needed to face... all of this and figure out what the heck is going on.  I was born male, but since a really young age, I always kind of liked dressing up in women's clothes.  Once I found myself living on my own, I slowly built up a small feminine wardrobe.  And recently, I've found that I've been dressing as a woman every chance I get.  I've started trying to figure out make up.  I got a cheap wig.  I've started to realize I actually like how I look when I'm all dressed up; as opposed to just sort of accepting how I look.  I've already accepted that - to some extent - I am trans.  I'm still trying to nail down what exactly that means to me.  But the more time goes on, the more I feel like I want to transition - the more I find myself wishing I could wear women's clothes and make-up all the time.  The idea is very appealing.  But then I have those moments where I think to myself 'What am I doing?' or 'Is this really what I want?' or something along those lines.

I guess I was just wondering - is this normal?  Has anyone else ever felt like this?  Really confused and uncertain?  How did you handle it?

I know no one else can tell me what's right for me - that's on me.  But how do I know?  How did everyone else figure it out?
You just about summed up my life...
I went through all of that, including building a female wardrobe since I was living single.
I came to the realization that I'm trans a little less than 3 years ago, but I wish I would have figured it out long before.
I think it just happens when it does for whatever reason.
But yeah... I struggled with those same exact questions...
It's "all part of the process", as they say.

Little by little, I realized that this was my path and being a "guy" was just no longer how I wanted to live my life.
I look at men now and think to myself..."Gosh, how did I ever live that way? I'm so glad to be done with that."

I've been hormonally transitioning for about 2+ years now and am a much happier person for it.
I'm out to my family, my friends and the people in my office.
Almost everyone calls me Lexi now.

I know it's scary right now, but it really does get easier as time goes on.

Finding a therapist is probably one of the best thing you can do right now.
But also, finding some transgender friends is the second best thing (in my opinion).

Look online for some cross-dressing or transgender meet-ups or events. (You may have to travel a bit)
Just show up and you'll meet some of the most friendly and accepting people you can find...and you'll make some instant friends.

Friends are truly priceless through this process...especially ones going through similar experiences.

But most of all...Enjoy your journey!

-Lexi



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Jailyn

Yes, this is very similar to all of our stories. We all question things and whether it is right. The only way to sort out your feelings is to get with a therapist. Like you said the only one to determine what you do it you. I found reading forums and other websites helpful in my case and just kept reinforcing what I felt that I was trans!
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Virginia 71

Sounds a lot like my path too. When I first started reading the forums here I found the link below which I found to be both interesting and telling.

http://www.avitale.com/developmentalreview.htm

I would say I fall into the third category in the article myself.

Anyway, I ask myself that even now, after two weeks on HRT. What the heck am I doing?! Well, that is the fear talking. I have said this several times now, but I just realized one day that all the people I was/am worried about keeping happy are not guaranteed to be there when it is time for me to leave this world, byut I most certainly WILL be there. So, why am I trying to please them by fulfilling their expectations? When that time comes I need to be able to look at my life and know that I lived it authentically as me, not someone else's expectation of who and what I was supposed to be.

There are lots of things to figure out for sure, but if you are dealing with it odds are someone here has too, so just log on and ask in the forums...

Be kind to yourself!

Best wishes,

:-)

v
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For this forum? Definitely normal. ;D

For the world at large? Nothing is normal to begin with! ;)

I figured it out (relatively recently as the dates in my signature show) by participating in these forums, seeing a therapist, and really cataloging my feelings. Mostly I just had to face the truth that I knew what I wanted from the start, and had been just convincing myself otherwise for years.
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Flair

Thank you all for the replies.

I actually am seeing a gender therapist already - started about a month go.  It has definitely helped so far, but I just still found myself doubting my own thoughts and feeling a lot and... it's tough sometimes.  Some days are good days, and I feel like everything I'm doing makes sense and I'm getting closer to my own answers.  Other days I just get really down about everything.  Sometimes I wonder if I should just bury everything like I used to... but that kind of doesn't feel like an option anymore.

I feel like I'm rambling. >_>;

I've been looking into the nearby trans support groups - luckily I live in a big city, so there are a few around.  I've considered going, but... I haven't yet.

Thank you again
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Flair

Quote from: Virginia 71 on December 22, 2017, 09:33:44 PM
Sounds a lot like my path too. When I first started reading the forums here I found the link below which I found to be both interesting and telling.

http://www.avitale.com/developmentalreview.htm

I would say I fall into the third category in the article myself.

Anyway, I ask myself that even now, after two weeks on HRT. What the heck am I doing?! Well, that is the fear talking. I have said this several times now, but I just realized one day that all the people I was/am worried about keeping happy are not guaranteed to be there when it is time for me to leave this world, byut I most certainly WILL be there. So, why am I trying to please them by fulfilling their expectations? When that time comes I need to be able to look at my life and know that I lived it authentically as me, not someone else's expectation of who and what I was supposed to be.

There are lots of things to figure out for sure, but if you are dealing with it odds are someone here has too, so just log on and ask in the forums...

Be kind to yourself!

Best wishes,

:-)

v

Also, this was a really good read, and I feel like it was really helpful.  To have alot of what I've felt and done just laid out as something that is normal of trans people is just... really comforting.  Thank you for sharing this.  It really helped.
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Sephirah

Sweetie, the first thing I'm going to say is that there is no "normal." There really isn't. Normal is something attributed to you by other people and is shorthand for "Yeah, you don't make me question myself. You're okay." You're as unique as everyone else in the world. And your journey will be unique too.

The second thing I'm going to say is: Don't measure yourself against other people. Their experiences and desires. That will drive you batty. And for every person who doesn't walk your own path... it will make you question yourself. When it comes to finding out who you are, there is no wrong answer. There is just the answer you arrive at. And sure, it's easy to say that's on you, but it's harder to appreciate what that actually means. From your posts, you're heading in the right direction. Keep going, okay?

All roads lead to the same place, eventually. The one where you figure things out. To explain what I mean, I'll tell you a bit about myself. I never had, or felt the desire to wear female clothing, makeup, or anything along those lines. The reason being that I felt it would be fake. That however much I tried... I couldn't get rid of the underlying reality. It wouldn't be me, in a physical sense. I could have, sure. And had I the right body for it, I maybe would have. But I always felt that it wouldn't be real. Or rather that it wouldn't be real enough for me. I would always know, deep down, that underneath it all was this meatsack which didn't fit. And I was just trying to hide that. And because of that, I never did it, and always felt like it would be... hmm... part of the end goal, you know? Something I allowed myself to do if I ever reached the point where it would feel like I felt right to do it.

Is that normal? Probably not. No more than anyone else's journey is. But it doesn't matter. The end goal is the same. Realising who I am. It's the goal we all strive for, and maybe even reach. But the path taken to get there doesn't have to follow a pre-defined series of steps. It's something that can really only come from inside you. The way you feel. The way you want to be.

My realisations came from my dreams. From... soul searching. All the times the physical part of me was shut off from the world and I got in touch with the non-physical. The essence of myself. That's how I knew who I was. The times where I was free to just exist, away from physical constraints. That taught me more than anything else.

I know that's a lot of airy-fairy stuff, and other people may not experience the same thing. But that's the point. They, and you, don't have to. The point is you're looking at yourself. And taking steps to see inside yourself. However you got to this point are steps in your journey. So don't worry if anyone else did or didn't do the same things as you, okay? Because it has no effect on who, or how, you are. That comes from inside.

I'm proud of you for talking about this, though, and getting it out. That's probably the hardest step in this whole thing. And you've taken it. You're examining yourself. Don't ever worry about rambling or saying too much. There is no 'too much'. Say as much as you like. As I say, you're on the right track. Keep looking at your feelings. How things make you feel, and how you see yourself. We all have those "WTF" days. The weight of the world can be heavy at times, and cloud things. But keep going, okay? You will get there. I believe in you.

*hugs*
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krobinson103

Whats normal? Who even wants to be the same as the crowd? To me your story tells me if someone coming to terms with the person on the inside. I struggled with that for years wishing I could let the person inside out. I did and its the best thing I've done for my wel being ever. Be brave and confident and be true to yourself - where ever that may take you. :)
Every day is a totally awesome day
Every day provides opportunities and challenges
Every challenge leads to an opportunity
Every fear faced leads to one more strength
Every strength leads to greater success
Success leads to self esteem
Self Esteem leads to happiness.
Cherish every day.
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Katie Ellen

If I didn't know better, I would have thought that I started this post. We are in a very similar position. I've been seeing a gender therapist for about a month now, after struggling for many years. I can leave a session feeling really good only to have doubts hours later. So you're not alone.

I look forward to what others have to say and following your progress.
Katie Ellen
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Jessica

Quote from: Flair on December 22, 2017, 04:39:25 PM
First off, Hello I guess?  I've been lurking around here for a while, but finally decided to actually make an account because... I just wanted to talk to some other people I thought might understand, I guess.

Also, I know 'normal' is a totally loaded word, with a lot of extra connotations, but I'm not really sure how to phrase a lot of this just yet.

I'd rather not force everyone to read a novel, so I guess a tldr version might be this:

I've recently really begun struggling with the idea of Gender Identity and trying to figure out what is and isn't me.  I've had these moments on and off for years now, but my usual answer in the past was to stop thinking about and just bury the questions, because - holy crap, what would I do, right!?

However, after a really rough past year, I finally reached a point where I felt like I needed to face... all of this and figure out what the heck is going on.  I was born male, but since a really young age, I always kind of liked dressing up in women's clothes.  Once I found myself living on my own, I slowly built up a small feminine wardrobe.  And recently, I've found that I've been dressing as a woman every chance I get.  I've started trying to figure out make up.  I got a cheap wig.  I've started to realize I actually like how I look when I'm all dressed up; as opposed to just sort of accepting how I look.  I've already accepted that - to some extent - I am trans.  I'm still trying to nail down what exactly that means to me.  But the more time goes on, the more I feel like I want to transition - the more I find myself wishing I could wear women's clothes and make-up all the time.  The idea is very appealing.  But then I have those moments where I think to myself 'What am I doing?' or 'Is this really what I want?' or something along those lines.

I guess I was just wondering - is this normal?  Has anyone else ever felt like this?  Really confused and uncertain?  How did you handle it?

I know no one else can tell me what's right for me - that's on me.  But how do I know?  How did everyone else figure it out?

Hi Flair 🙋‍♀️ I'm Jessica!  I absolutely felt this way at first.  Had a few wtf moments and briefly stopped only to restart after a bit of head clearing.  Each time I became more comfortable.  Now there have been no wtf moments since the second month. 
Good luck 💁‍♀️

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bobbisue

I guess I was just wondering - is this normal?  Has anyone else ever felt like this?  Really confused and uncertain?  How did you handle it?

    Flair I think a better question would be has anyone not felt like this   I kept doubting myself it took a brush with death to make me realize I need to be true to myself keep asking the hard questions when you need to talk you will always find an ear ready here most of all love yourself you are worth it

   bobbisue :)
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