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6 years post op with Dr Suporn - A follow up

Started by IsabellaSwan, January 07, 2018, 07:15:11 AM

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IsabellaSwan

Hi girls,

I want to write this (hopefully) not too long 6 year update on my SRS (I'm old school and prefer sex reassignment surgery, as I feel it more correctly describes what was done to me).

Firstly, let me start off by saying I don't regret going to Dr Suporn. I think he is an amazing doctor, whose surgery changed my life and let me live semi-normally for 4 years. I enjoyed an active sex life with a heavily self lubricating vagina: I have not once, in the past 6 years used lube during sex. In fact, I self lubricate enough that I have had, well, the other type of penetrative intercourse, using only my own lubrication. I can also orgasm vaginally and clitorally. The appearance overall is quite nice, men certainly seem to think it's beautiful, but I won't lie, there are unattractive aspects (mostly the "gaping" that I think is common with all if Dr Suporn's vaginas, which is ironic considering how extremely tight we tend to be).

2 years ago, however, when I was 4 years post op, I stopped dilating for a period of around 3 months. Stupid I know, but I had my reasons. Anyway, when I started again, I realized I had lost around 3 inches of depth. You can imagine my devastation. I had gone from being able to sleep with just about any guy, to not having a functional depth. I have since regained 1 inch, but that's it. At 6 years post op, I am left feeling like dilation is as much a part of my life as it was around 6 months post op, and I. Am. Hating. It. So much, in fact, that I would hesitate to recommend Dr Suporn's surgery to anyone. Dilation for me was painful and extrmely time consuming from day 1. Well, day 1 of dilation, that is. The first month is supposed to be "easy", because the tissue isn't contracting yet. That was NOT the case for me, as my tissues began contracting immediately after thr packing was removed, and I have had to fight for my vagina ever since. Dilation certainly became more bearable a few years after surgery, but it never became easy. It's relatively easy now (compared to the absolute torture it used to be), but I am dilating tima depth that's 2.5 inches shallower than it used to be, and it's certainly still uncomfortable. I am also still extremely tight, to the point where every man comments on it. They don't mind it, in fact they love it, but it's uncomfortable to me. I also haven't been able to enjoy sex since I lost so much of my depth, because I just feel like my vagina isn't adequate anymore. Going from almost 8 inches down to barely 5 makes a huge, huge difference.

In conclusion, Suporn's approach has, in my experience, been far superior to the traditional penile inversion technique, but with very real trade offs, and countless hours spent dilating. However, if you have a well endowed partner, you may be able to have a better experience than me. When I was having sex reslly regularly, as in several times a week, everything was perfect (but still very, very tight).
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Ellement_of_Freedom

Can you please tell me more about the gaping thing? Is the vagina always gaping?


FFS: Dr Noorman van der Dussen, August 2018 (Belgium)
SRS: Dr Suporn, January 2019 (Thailand)
VFS: Dr Thomas, May 2019 (USA)
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IsabellaSwan

No not always, but when I spread my legs, it's not closed the way a natural vagins is.
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AnonyMs

Thank you for posting this. I didn't realize you could lose depth so quickly at 4 years post-op. I'll definitely remember it for the future.

I've always heard that width is easily regained, but it sounds like you're having trouble with it. You're doing dynamic dilation with the large dilator? How often are you dilating now?

The gaping is one of the things fixed by a posterior commisure revision. Its mentioned in that pdf on Suporn (page 149 of the 3rd edition).

http://totalirc.net/hosted/Suporn2015.pdf
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TinaVane

Quote from: AnonyMs on January 07, 2018, 10:05:47 AM
Thank you for posting this. I didn't realize you could lose depth so quickly at 4 years post-op. I'll definitely remember it for the future.

I've always heard that width is easily regained, but it sounds like you're having trouble with it. You're doing dynamic dilation with the large dilator? How often are you dilating now?

The gaping is one of the things fixed by a posterior commisure revision. Its mentioned in that pdf on Suporn (page 149 of the 3rd edition).

http://totalirc.net/hosted/Suporn2015.pdf
Thanks for the link I have reading material on the greyhound bus [emoji590]


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IsabellaSwan

Quote from: AnonyMs on January 07, 2018, 10:05:47 AM
Thank you for posting this. I didn't realize you could lose depth so quickly at 4 years post-op. I'll definitely remember it for the future.

I've always heard that width is easily regained, but it sounds like you're having trouble with it. You're doing dynamic dilation with the large dilator? How often are you dilating now?

The gaping is one of the things fixed by a posterior commisure revision. Its mentioned in that pdf on Suporn (page 149 of the 3rd edition).

http://totalirc.net/hosted/Suporn2015.pdf

Yeah, I didn't realize it either, but again, my body was always difficult when it came to dilation.

I still get the large dilator in quite easily after opening up with the medium dilator, but it definitely does feel... stretched. And yeah, I do dynamic dilation, but being 6 years post op, dilating several times a week shouldn't be necessary.

I knew about the fix for it, I just am not in a hurry to go back to Chonburi (I haaaaaated that place), and I am afraid of not dilating again.
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AnonyMs

Quote from: IsabellaSwan on January 07, 2018, 10:44:00 AM
I knew about the fix for it, I just am not in a hurry to go back to Chonburi (I haaaaaated that place), and I am afraid of not dilating again.

A month off dilating after posterior commisure revision would worry me too if I was in your situation. The only difficulty is the free revisions are ending soon with Suporn retiring.

I've heard of women healing very quickly, but they also stretched out the dilation intervals really quickly too. There's such an incredible range of experiences out there.

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TinaVane

Quote from: AnonyMs on January 07, 2018, 10:48:31 AM
A month off dilating after posterior commisure revision would worry me too if I was in your situation. The only difficulty is the free revisions are ending soon with Suporn retiring.

His replacement is not going to offer the free revisions ?



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IsabellaSwan

Quote from: AnonyMs on January 07, 2018, 10:48:31 AM
A month off dilating after posterior commisure revision would worry me too if I was in your situation. The only difficulty is the free revisions are ending soon with Suporn retiring.

I've heard of women healing very quickly, but they also stretched out the dilation intervals really quickly too. There's such an incredible range of experiences out there.

I'm considering having my entire vagina redone with Dr Kaushik, but if not, I'll have to get a revision in soon! Thanks for the tip!

My dilation was so terrible that I could never do 3 times a day, because doing 2 a day took 8 - 10 hours. I couldn't work for a full 7 months.
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AnonyMs

Quote from: TinaVane on January 07, 2018, 10:59:12 AM
His replacement is not going to offer the free revisions ?

Its a bit complicated, and I think they are making a mistake with this new policy, but its on their site

http://www.supornclinic.com/html/support/commitment.html

Long term there's one free revision, from 12 to 18 months after SRS.
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AnonyMs

Quote from: IsabellaSwan on January 07, 2018, 11:27:39 AM
I'm considering having my entire vagina redone with Dr Kaushik, but if not, I'll have to get a revision in soon! Thanks for the tip!

If you go for the colon vaginolplasty it could be worth looking at PAI in Bangkok. I expect they are familiar with Dr Suporn's work. I'd be a bit concerned about having more problems though. Your healing sounds very unusual - do you have any reason to believe it would be different with this technique?

PAI's also relatively cheap and short wait list and has a good hospital.
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TinaVane

Quote from: AnonyMs on January 07, 2018, 11:52:55 AM
If you go for the colon vaginolplasty it could be worth looking at PAI in Bangkok. I expect they are familiar with Dr Suporn's work. I'd be a bit concerned about having more problems though. Your healing sounds very unusual - do you have any reason to believe it would be different with this technique?

PAI's also relatively cheap and short wait list and has a good hospital.
Exactly ....
Pai almost do the same amount as the standard grs surgery ...I think it was 140 colovaginaplasty vs the 160 grs standard
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IsabellaSwan

Quote from: AnonyMs on January 07, 2018, 11:52:55 AM
If you go for the colon vaginolplasty it could be worth looking at PAI in Bangkok. I expect they are familiar with Dr Suporn's work. I'd be a bit concerned about having more problems though. Your healing sounds very unusual - do you have any reason to believe it would be different with this technique?

PAI's also relatively cheap and short wait list and has a good hospital.

I don't want thr traditional colon procedure - I want Dr Kaushik's proprietary sigma-lead one.

Well, yes. Suporn uses a perforated skin graft, hence the comtractions. Intense scar tissue. So intense, that even 4 years post op, I managed to lose 3 inches of depth. This vs the sigma-lead colon procedure that can give you up to 10 inches of depth that won't close.. it's a no brainer. I also prefer well endowed men, so my current depth of 5 inches has kept me from having sex for so, so, so long, and when I do, I can't relax. If I can get back my original 8 inches and more from a procedure that also will eliminate my need to dilate, well.. it's all I've ever wanted, tbh.
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TinaVane

Quote from: IsabellaSwan on January 07, 2018, 09:50:08 PM
I don't want thr traditional colon procedure - I want Dr Kaushik's proprietary sigma-lead one.

Well, yes. Suporn uses a perforated skin graft, hence the comtractions. Intense scar tissue. So intense, that even 4 years post op, I managed to lose 3 inches of depth. This vs the sigma-lead colon procedure that can give you up to 10 inches of depth that won't close.. it's a no brainer. I also prefer well endowed men, so my current depth of 5 inches has kept me from having sex for so, so, so long, and when I do, I can't relax. If I can get back my original 8 inches and more from a procedure that also will eliminate my need to dilate, well.. it's all I've ever wanted, tbh.
If I'm not mistaken tho ,I thought Kaushik's version to get to that length you want  he still need to use the penis n colon ?!?! A 10 Indy NeoVagina is the dream esp for us girls who seem to get anaconda penises [emoji854]... That's how I took it by reading it on his website.


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TinaVane

Sucks so one has to continue those types of dilating schedules with suporn ?!?! I am shooketh



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Ellement_of_Freedom

Quote from: TinaVane on January 07, 2018, 09:59:34 PM
Sucks so one has to continue those types of dilating schedules with suporn ?!?! I am shooketh

I don't think it's the same for everyone.

Quote from: IsabellaSwan on January 07, 2018, 10:44:00 AM
my body was always difficult when it came to dilation.


FFS: Dr Noorman van der Dussen, August 2018 (Belgium)
SRS: Dr Suporn, January 2019 (Thailand)
VFS: Dr Thomas, May 2019 (USA)
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IsabellaSwan

I can only speak for myself, but the two others that I know also lost depth and find dilation painful still, all these years later.
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IsabellaSwan

It's worth mentioning that we were all young when we had our surgery, as in late teens/early twenties. It seems the older women have less issues.
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TinaVane

Quote from: IsabellaSwan on January 07, 2018, 11:14:25 PM
It's worth mentioning that we were all young when we had our surgery, as in late teens/early twenties. It seems the older women have less issues.
Interesting


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Ellement_of_Freedom

Quote from: IsabellaSwan on January 07, 2018, 11:14:25 PM
It's worth mentioning that we were all young when we had our surgery, as in late teens/early twenties. It seems the older women have less issues.

Like how old?


FFS: Dr Noorman van der Dussen, August 2018 (Belgium)
SRS: Dr Suporn, January 2019 (Thailand)
VFS: Dr Thomas, May 2019 (USA)
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