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Will I be benefit from a Brow Ridge reduction ?

Started by Han, January 06, 2018, 08:48:53 PM

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Han

Hey All:

Can someone of of you who have had brow ridge reduction give me some opinions about my brow ridge .Thanks
I think my brow ridge is not too bad ,but the surgeon recommend me do it for better .What you think ,Do you think I will be benefit form the Brow ridge reduction surgery?


http://liangjinhan.blogspot.com/2018/01/brow-ridge.html


It cost a lot of money ,I want make sure I will be benefit from the FFS.Do you think I need it or I can get away without it .I appreciate all the replied

Many thanks


Han
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echo7

Are you Asian?  I'm guessing you are Asian, based on your name and the web address and picture you linked.  I'm Asian too.

I believe that for Asian transgender women, brow ridge reduction surgery is critically important.  A lot of western transgender women can get away without getting brow ridge reduction, because some western cis women have slight brow ridges.  But Asian cis women?  None of them have brow ridges at all.  None.

Any type of brow bossing/brow ridges on an Asian woman will instantly clock her as a transgender woman, especially in the eyes of other Asians.  If passing (especially amongst other Asians) is important to you, brow ridge reduction surgery will be very beneficial.  I had it done myself, and it was very much worth it.
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Han

Quote from: echo7 on January 06, 2018, 09:48:46 PM
Are you Asian?  I'm guessing you are Asian, based on your name and the web address and picture you linked.  I'm Asian too.

I believe that for Asian transgender women, brow ridge reduction surgery is critically important.  A lot of western transgender women can get away without getting brow ridge reduction, because some western cis women have slight brow ridges.  But Asian cis women?  None of them have brow ridges at all.  None.

Any type of brow bossing/brow ridges on an Asian woman will instantly clock her as a transgender woman, especially in the eyes of other Asians.  If passing (especially amongst other Asians) is important to you, brow ridge reduction surgery will be very beneficial.  I had it done myself, and it was very much worth it.





Thanks for replying,Dear.Yes .I'm Asian.I'm Taiwanese live in the State now

Pass is very important to me since I'm very tall like 5'11

Do you think my brow ridge is visible in the picture,so you do think the surgery will helped me a lot in my case ?

I kind of undecided.
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echo7

Yes, your brow ridge is visible to me in your pictures.  From one Asian trans woman to another, I recommend you to get the surgery if you can afford it.  I also had my doubts before I had brow ridge reduction surgery, because most of my non-Asian trans friends said that I did not need it.

But I had an Asian trans friend who told me to do the surgery, and I'm glad I did. I noticed a difference in how other Asians looked at me after I had it done.
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Han

Quote from: echo7 on January 06, 2018, 10:25:53 PM
Yes, your brow ridge is visible to me in your pictures.  From one Asian trans woman to another, I recommend you to get the surgery if you can afford it.  I also had my doubts before I had brow ridge reduction surgery, because most of my non-Asian trans friends said that I did not need it.

But I had an Asian trans friend who told me to do the surgery, and I'm glad I did. I noticed a difference in how other Asians looked at me after I had it done.

Thanks for sharing dear .I will take in my consideration.hugs

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warlockmaker

I'm Eurasian and now live in Bangkok. I had a slight brow which was shaved and my thai tg friends have two options, some shave and others add fillers. Asian female foreheads are rounder and for the best aesthetics the appropiate method should be selected for the roundness. Best to consult an open minded surgeon.
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Dani

I do not see much of a brow ridge. People of Asian origin naturally have less brow ridge than other ethnic groups.
Perhaps just a minimal brow shave is sufficient for you.

Due to my ethnic heritage, I needed a type 3 brow reshaping. My surgeon removed  the entire brow bone, reshaped to a flatter contour and then placed the bone back in my head.  This is extensive surgery and expensive. If you can do without type 3, then by all means go with the least invasive surgery that works for you.
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Han

Quote from: Dani on January 07, 2018, 06:21:32 AM
I do not see much of a brow ridge. People of Asian origin naturally have less brow ridge than other ethnic groups.
Perhaps just a minimal brow shave is sufficient for you.

Due to my ethnic heritage, I needed a type 3 brow reshaping. My surgeon removed  the entire brow bone, reshaped to a flatter contour and then placed the bone back in my head.  This is extensive surgery and expensive. If you can do without type 3, then by all means go with the least invasive surgery that works for you.


Hey , there . Do you think I can get away without the surgery.sugery cost money and time to recovery.if I don't have to , I prefer not have it .

You don't think I have much brow ridge .so I might not need one ?

Thanks sis
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IsabellaSwan

Your orbital rim and brow ridge are fine, but the middle of your forehead would benifit very much from forehead surgery, if you desire to look very female. That being said, none of it is a requirement. You don't *have* to do anything. However, if you are asking for aesthetic, feminizing reasons, I would suggest you get it done. Especially if you indeed are Asian, because as someone else pointed out, certain gender markers are more common to different ethnicities, and an absess of a brow bone does seem more appropriately Asian.

To the people who recommend brow shaving, that really isn't up to the patient, nor is it tomdo with the severity of the protrusion, nut rather the thickness of the skull covering the sinus cavity. If it is very thin and hollow, a brow shave cannot safely be performed, and therefore a type 3 reconstruction must be attempted.
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Han

Quote from: IsabellaSwan on January 07, 2018, 10:54:45 AM
Your orbital rim and brow ridge are fine, but the middle of your forehead would benifit very much from forehead surgery, if you desire to look very female. That being said, none of it is a requirement. You don't *have* to do anything. However, if you are asking for aesthetic, feminizing reasons, I would suggest you get it done. Especially if you indeed are Asian, because as someone else pointed out, certain gender markers are more common to different ethnicities, and an absess of a brow bone does seem more appropriately Asian.

To the people who recommend brow shaving, that really isn't up to the patient, nor is it tomdo with the severity of the protrusion, nut rather the thickness of the skull covering the sinus cavity. If it is very thin and hollow, a brow shave cannot safely be performed, and therefore a type 3 reconstruction must be attempted.



Hey .Thanks for replied.There is no way ever I will do the type 3 reconstrucation. Tooooooo. much for me

You said my middle of forehand  will be benefit from surgery,Can I ask you talking about I will be benefit from the brow ridge reduce or other type of forehead surgery? 

Thanks
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Han

If anyone passed by please give me some of your options

Thank You
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Celia0428

Yes, you will benefit from a brow ridge reduction, that's for sure from my point of view.
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Han

Quote from: Celia0428 on January 08, 2018, 08:24:36 AM
Yes, you will benefit from a brow ridge reduction, that's for sure from my point of view.



How and why you think from your point of view ?
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Hi Han,

I am not sure what are the female beauty standards where you are. The pics show brow bossing and a bit of bulging at the sinus plate. If you were to do top of face bone work you will only want to do it one time. Perhaps saving for the brow and a type 2 or 3 forehead procedure would provide optimum results.

The do nothing is a good option for a while and until you get a few estimates to do brow and a type 3 forehead procedure at the same time. I know it is expensive. The pain of the skin lowering and the recovery would better be done once. Do you think if you did the brow now that in the future you would want to do the forehead? If so then wait and do it together.

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Han

Quote from: Rachel on January 08, 2018, 06:50:13 PM
Hi Han,

I am not sure what are the female beauty standards where you are. The pics show brow bossing and a bit of bulging at the sinus plate. If you were to do top of face bone work you will only want to do it one time. Perhaps saving for the brow and a type 2 or 3 forehead procedure would provide optimum results.

The do nothing is a good option for a while and until you get a few estimates to do brow and a type 3 forehead procedure at the same time. I know it is expensive. The pain of the skin lowering and the recovery would better be done once. Do you think if you did the brow now that in the future you would want to do the forehead? If so then wait and do it together.

Just my opinion.



Thanks for replied
I would never want be some "Beauty" .Not every cis-woman is a beauty.I just want be a simple passable woman.That is all.

There is no way ,I will ever consider Type 3 forehead surgery.Ever. I don't spent a lot money an pain to become some " Pretty woman"

I just want be pass and a  simple woman.

The reason I consider brow ridge reduction is my surgeon said my brow bossing is not very noticeable but if I do will be better .This is reason I take it as consideration.

I will never do type 3 forehead  surgery 3 ,Do you think the brow reduce will still be worth it ?

Hugs
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IsabellaSwan

I'm sorry, but it's not really up to you. If you're gonna do your forehead/brow, you're gonna get the type done that fits your forehead type. Type 3 might be your only choice. I already explained this.
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JulieOnHerWay

Han, sweetie, you are asking us, a bunch of people in a similar situation for our opinion if you needing brow reduction.  Most say yes and you seem to not want to hear it.  I am one too.  I see bossing that would be better if it was not so prominent.
But there are options on opinions.  I was over looking at Virtual FFS last night.  She is a very professional authority on what makes an AMAB look feminine. She uses pictures you provide and does a careful scientific analysis of your facial features based on doing over 2000 evaluations to help you know what is possible and what is not necessary for you to become more feminine looking.  She is not a surgeon nor affiliated with any practice, but seems to be respected by many FFS surgeons for her expertise.  Whether she will be able to help with which type (1,2,3) you need, I don't know but doubt it. 
To me, it is $375 well spent.  I would suggest you get a second opinion from her.
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Han

Quote from: IsabellaSwan on January 08, 2018, 11:23:22 PM
I'm sorry, but it's not really up to you. If you're gonna do your forehead/brow, you're gonna get the type done that fits your forehead type. Type 3 might be your only choice. I already explained this.


I'm not you ,You are not me .Not everyone is going to need forehead type 3 surgery.Fortunately last year when I had my FFS ,my surgeon checked my X-ray and told me If I want do my brow bridge I only need a Minimum  brow shave   


But thanks for your explanation about type 3 thought 
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Han

Quote from: JulieOnHerWay on January 08, 2018, 11:51:25 PM
Han, sweetie, you are asking us, a bunch of people in a similar situation for our opinion if you needing brow reduction.  Most say yes and you seem to not want to hear it.  I am one too.  I see bossing that would be better if it was not so prominent.
But there are options on opinions.  I was over looking at Virtual FFS last night.  She is a very professional authority on what makes an AMAB look feminine. She uses pictures you provide and does a careful scientific analysis of your facial features based on doing over 2000 evaluations to help you know what is possible and what is not necessary for you to become more feminine looking.  She is not a surgeon nor affiliated with any practice, but seems to be respected by many FFS surgeons for her expertise.  Whether she will be able to help with which type (1,2,3) you need, I don't know but doubt it. 
To me, it is $375 well spent.  I would suggest you get a second opinion from her.






Thanks for the helpful information .Hugs
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