I prefer the rack as a way of extracting information.  No, really, you just talk.  And its the kind of relationships they had, how they went, how they ended, how they are with that person now, that is more important than numbers.  It's about patterns, that tend to repeat.  If all of their prior relationships ended badly, that's a clue.  If they tend to be long term, stable, that's better.  If its the first relationship, then that's kind of a back away sign, I'm not into relationships with training wheels. 

And in that, TG/straight, open relationships or closed, tends not to make a difference much.  Relationships are about people not labels. 

Quote from: Rebis on March 06, 2008, 07:54:37 PM
Oh My God!   I just thought, would anybody here date J. Edgar Hoover? 

My answer is an emphatic NO WAY!!!! Ick... barf!!!! not my type at all:P

Z

Me neither.


NO to J. Edgar Hoover,    YES to Rupaul. 

Yes to Rou?

(it's a dude)

she's nice.  Does she identify as male? 

I know she's a male dressed as female but I'd prefer to address her as 'she' because she is presenting as female.

It seems to identify as male but common rumor in Japan is it was desiring a gender change.

Unfortunatly, it's gone from the band now and noone knows anything:-(

Stealth maybe?  LOL.

If anyone on here knows anything about me at all, you already know my answer to the topical question is an emphatic "yes." I have dated men, women, intersexed individuals, transsexuals... I have run the gamut. I'm done with dating, having found the absolute love of my life in a beautiful woman who happens to have been born with the physical disorder of transsexualism, and I couldn't be happier with my decision.

Sure, there are problems. We constantly struggle with trying to be perceived by others in the way in which we perceive ourselves. We have to figure out how to delegate funds to our various trans-related costs. But we have each other, always, and truthfully, she's more feminine than most of the genetic women I dated before. If you close yourself off to dating people just because of one physical trait or another, you close yourself off to the opportunity of meeting someone who just might be the perfect person for you.

the blissfully omnisexual, and blissfully taken Sebastien Dean

if i see a guy dressed as a woman, who identifys as a guy, ill call him him....
would you call the lead singer of dead or alive she (forgotten his name)?
R >

I try to call people what they want to be called.  Its not that big a deal to me, and its a form of respect to them.

Does anybody talk to anyone here, I mean, out in public?  I don't know, it's like everyone lives their lives in a book or something!
What's wrong with just asking a person how they would like to be addressed?  I have been asked and I was not offended.
Everyone watching their P's and Q's and trying to second guess things is so unnatural, I don't know how some of you folk get about in real life?!?
Lead singers of bands are a different category altogether.  Probably wouldn't be able to hear you anyway, so why bother how you would address them!  They wouldn't give a flying fig, so why should anyone else.
Now Mr, Miss, Ms Citizen down the local pub, club, in your neighbourhood probably would like abit of fore thought into how you address them, so as I said before, just ask.  They won't bite your head off!
And if they do, you probably deserved it!!  >    >

That's why I said I call them what they want.  Makes it easy that way.  What's it matter to me anyway?  Heck I know a guy who calls himself the Emperor Norton the III (We have a history of people here thinking they are the Emperor of SF) and we all call him The Emperor,  as long as I don't have to pay tribute to him besides buying him a drink now and again, what's it hurt?

My world is not so ridged that things must fit in my boxes.  I can accommodate. 

if someone asked me if i prefered he or she. id probably slap them...
R >

If your first reaction is to use violence as a means of addressing or solving a problem, they most likely will not need to ask - they will know.

that its an indignent reaction because you just asked a woman if she was a bloke?
i think its a reaction that most of my friends would share....

'excuse me, do you prefer i address you as he or she?'
'wut'
'are you a man or woman'
*SMACK*

i think the answer is clear, and not how you decide to insinuate Tekla....
if you think women dont slap people for something like that, your bloody barmy...
R >

50 some years on this planet I've never been slapped.  Punched a few times, never slapped.  I just say "My name is "X" and your is?"  They tell you, then you know.  But there are other clues.  I just don't see what the deal is in letting people be who they want, and not what you insist. 

What am i insisting?
i suggested that if someone asked me what pronouns i prefered, then they were insulting me, and as such, require such reaction. not to be petty here tekla, but your a guy, youve been punched probably buy guys or girls... girls dont punch as a response to an insult, some do sure, but not nice girls. (i like to think there is such a thing still)
Its entirely theoretical, because lets face it, ive never been asked what my gender is...
R >

And.... if you get it wrong?  No big deal!  Say sorry, no harm done!  An apology goes a long way, could even get them talking.

The only people who p*ss me off are ones who intentionally call me what they want, not what I want!
I've had it happen once and I don't think that girl will do that in a hurry again to anyone!!

I think some of you on here a too timid, don't like to apologize when you get it wrong.  Mistakes happen, have a sense of humour about it!  And yes, I've had my face slapped, when I was a teen, I was a cheeky monkey back then!!  >

Though I am slightly more attracted to men than women at this point, I was completely hetero before transition.

I would most definitely date a TS. What is really important to me is personality. In fact, I have met very few cisgendered men that I would consider dating material. While I may find them physically attractive, oft the attraction quickly fades the moment they open their mouths. I find the vast majority of natal males to be arrogant, rude, brash and full of themselves. All qualities I could never deal with in a relationship. Most of them aren't interested in me anyway. I'll meet someone who is interested in me and the moment they find out I'm trans  I never hear from them again.

I have met one natal male who seems to be kind, gentle, caring, and treats me in our conversations like a lady. I met him on another site, not TS related at all, and not a dating site. Yesterday when I was having a bad day he called me on the phone just to make sure I was OK. But he lives in Europe and I am Stateside. He was already planning on moving here to the U.S. and if he does it might be interesting, but honestly I'm not holding my breath. My gender therapist, interestingly enough, has offered up the idea that he might secretly be TS himself. If he was I wouldn't care.

Unfortunately, in my area it seems like all the TS people are either woodworked or simply don't venture out of their own homes. You know when you buy a car and suddenly it seems like you see the same make, model, and color car everywhere you look? I thought that sort of thing might happen after transition, but it hasn't. I am very much alone here. The local support group is overrun by CD/DQ's and I just don't relate to them at all, so I no longer attend the meetings.

Kelli

uh, if you think transmen arnt arogant rude or brash, youve got a suprise coming love....
Trans men, are as varied as natal men....
suggesting thier automatically not those things, is like the arseholes who suggest transwomen are 'more feminine than natal females' and softer/gentler/more apreciative of male affection....

Steriotype gender, not how someone starts....
R >

Last February I met this wonderful transsexual and we really clicked right off the bat. Now with me being a cross-dresser we figured that there wouldn't be any problems. Now a month later, things are still going strong and we're planning our marriage now, which has been tentitively set for May 10, 2008. Love is so wonderful, especially when you're with the right person.  Read more about it in the cross-dressing forum under 'TRUE LOVE"

Gina