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Dealing with trying to reach the unattainable

Started by Shambles, February 02, 2018, 03:44:59 PM

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Shambles

So  im early on my journey, i dont really know what ill look like as a woman, dont know if ill pass... ever but i do want to become more than now, to become me. I look at woman envy in films, tv and in real life. Woman who have a figure or face that i think thats me but at the end of the day you cant duplicate what you see. Its not that im not afraid that i wont pass, i mean you can get too hung up on that. Its the case of no matter what you do, the person looking at you, interacting with you still cant see the real you.

I aspire to myself, i aspire to be happy but with gd your mind and body are not right together, you can nudge your body in the right direction but will i ever see the real me? Is there even such a thing as the real me?

How do you begin to seperate whats asperational and whats obtainable?

Are these the questions that people start to ask when they repress? I know im being silly, right now im scared of what might be not joyous at all.

Can i go through all this, loose everything, start over and still not find me?

Im really looking for some words of wisdom here from people who might have asked these questions before, it doesnt feel like gd, i cut down my nails tonight as they was a bit weak but now feel way less fem. i saw a beutiful girl on netflix that i aspire too but way out of reach. I think these two things set off my gd tonight. Oh and its a 2 year wait to be seen on nhs.

I mean i know its one step at a time and im trying to put all that energy into loosing weight and hair removal but tonight that energy has slipped out to where i dont want it, its hard to contain.
- Jo / Joanna

Pre-HRT Trans-Fem
16th Nov 17 - Came out to myself
7th Jan 18 - Came out to wife
31st Jan 18 - Referred to GIC / might be seen in 2020
Oct 18 - Fully out at one job, part out at another
Nov 18 - Out to close family
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Doreen

Quote from: Shambles on February 02, 2018, 03:44:59 PM
So  im early on my journey, i dont really know what ill look like as a woman, dont know if ill pass... ever but i do want to become more than now, to become me. I look at woman envy in films, tv and in real life. Woman who have a figure or face that i think thats me but at the end of the day you cant duplicate what you see. Its not that im not afraid that i wont pass, i mean you can get too hung up on that. Its the case of no matter what you do, the person looking at you, interacting with you still cant see the real you.

I aspire to myself, i aspire to be happy but with gd your mind and body are not right together, you can nudge your body in the right direction but will i ever see the real me? Is there even such a thing as the real me?

How do you begin to seperate whats asperational and whats obtainable?

Are these the questions that people start to ask when they repress? I know im being silly, right now im scared of what might be not joyous at all.

Can i go through all this, loose everything, start over and still not find me?

Im really looking for some words of wisdom here from people who might have asked these questions before, it doesnt feel like gd, i cut down my nails tonight as they was a bit weak but now feel way less fem. i saw a beutiful girl on netflix that i aspire too but way out of reach. I think these two things set off my gd tonight. Oh and its a 2 year wait to be seen on nhs.

I mean i know its one step at a time and im trying to put all that energy into loosing weight and hair removal but tonight that energy has slipped out to where i dont want it, its hard to contain.

To seek to obtain perfection of character... does not mean it will ever occur, but it means you steadily get closer to that goal.  There is no magic moment when suddenly HOT DOGGITY I"M HOT moment lol.   However I think it does become a gradual process.. you go from 10% to 15... to 20... etc.. Some things help speed that up.  HRT, growing boobs, softer skin, no facial hair, more head hair.. FFS probably bumps it up by about 50%.

Its important to remember that what you see in the mirror isn't really what others see.  Be confident, be the best woman you can be, but try not to be overly critical (difficult to do of course). Its a process, and we all learn it slowly :)
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KathyLauren

I get it that waiting to even get into the system is dysphoria-inducing.  I didn't do well with waiting either, and my wait times were nothing in comparison.

It is important not to get attached to specifics when it comes to appearances.  Very few of us will look like fashion models when we are done.  It's a bit of a crap-shoot, and you won't know until it happens what your results will be.  So it is important to notice and savour each little change as it happens.

Yes, I'd like to have B-cup or C-cup boobs.  But after a year on HRT, I have to make do with As.  But, damn, they sure are cute!  I love their shape, and I love how they feel.

I'd love to have the face of a seventeen-year-old, but it ain't going to happen at my age.  But the day I noticed that my lips had changed: WOW!!   And a couple of months later, there was something different about my eyes: another Wow!

It's baby steps.  The important thing is to enjoy each step as it happens.

My body is never quite going to match my mental ideal, so in that sense, my dysphoria is never entirely going to go away.  But as I become more confident in my womanhood, it is going to matter less.

It is not all about the body, either.  In addition to body dysphoria, most people have social dysphoria about their presentation.  That is something you can work on even while you wait to get into the NHS system.  My wife told me I needed a pair of skinny jeans.  So, when I found a pair in my size in our favourite second-hand store, I had to try them on.  Oh, my!  Oh, my! 

I am a long way from done.  But the self-confidence I have gained from the process has me loving the person in the mirror even if she still has some beard shadow, and her shoulders are too wide and her voice is too deep.  I am perceived as a woman and treated as one wherever I go.  And that's what I always wanted.
2015-07-04 Awakening; 2015-11-15 Out to self; 2016-06-22 Out to wife; 2016-10-27 First time presenting in public; 2017-01-20 Started HRT!!; 2017-04-20 Out publicly; 2017-07-10 Legal name change; 2019-02-15 Approval for GRS; 2019-08-02 Official gender change; 2020-03-11 GRS; 2020-09-17 New birth certificate
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Shambles

I know your right, ive always struggled with my chest throughout my life. Being in mind im not on hrt my band is 42inch and bust is 47 inch. I cant even pretend to be a full man without a compression vest on. Gd is real for both aspects of my life. I know alot of people here want that inc me if im.presenting female but try doing that for years while still thinking your male.

Im sorry for venting before i just got a bit low
- Jo / Joanna

Pre-HRT Trans-Fem
16th Nov 17 - Came out to myself
7th Jan 18 - Came out to wife
31st Jan 18 - Referred to GIC / might be seen in 2020
Oct 18 - Fully out at one job, part out at another
Nov 18 - Out to close family
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Tuffcreampuff

Quote from: Shambles on February 02, 2018, 05:39:26 PM
I know your right, ive always struggled with my chest throughout my life. Being in mind im not on hrt my band is 42inch and bust is 47 inch. I cant even pretend to be a full man without a compression vest on. Gd is real for both aspects of my life. I know alot of people here want that inc me if im.presenting female but try doing that for years while still thinking your male.

Im sorry for venting before i just got a bit low
I struggle with many of the same issues. I am 53 and have spent my whole life to this point doing "manly" things to be more masculine. While realizing I have always been female inside. Recently began therapy with an awesome counselor, accepting and embracing my femininity. I now know it's attainable to be the woman I have always been, but never going to be Megan Fox or Scarlett lol. I am just going to be the best me I can be. Just be the best you and shhot for the stars

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tgirlamg

Hi Shambles!!!

We all go into this process wondering what will indeed be "attainable" in our outward presentation... it can be a question that passes through our mind easily... letting us process it with the thought of ... "what will be will be"...or it can be omnipresent in our mind making our journey heavy under it's crushing weight...

Each of us has our own priorities and vision of what will be... I think, in the end, after the period of trying think things through...and wonder ...and dream... and fear... and hope....there is only one way to find out what is truly attainable and that is... to seek to attain and be ready to accept what will come of that... There is a point in the process that always requires we jump off a bit of a cliff... It becomes the only way of truly discovering what awaits us... I found an amazing world at the bottom of the cliff that had just been waiting for me to arrive...

I hope you find amazing things as well!!!

Onward we go brave sister!!!

Ashley 😀❤️🌻
"To be yourself in a world that is constantly trying to make you something else is the greatest accomplishment" ... Ralph Waldo Emerson 🌸

"The individual has always had to struggle from being overwhelmed by the tribe... But, no price is too high for the privilege of owning yourself" ... Rudyard Kipling 🌸

Let go of the things that no longer serve you... Let go of the pretense of the false persona, it is not you... Let go of the armor that you have worn for a lifetime, to serve the expectations of others and, to protect the woman inside... She needs protection no longer.... She is tired of hiding and more courageous than you know... Let her prove that to you....Let her step out of the dark and feel the light upon her face.... amg🌸

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Tuffcreampuff

Quote from: tgirlamc on February 03, 2018, 12:31:29 PM
Hi Shambles!!!

We all go into this process wondering what will indeed be "attainable" in our outward presentation... it can be a question that passes through our mind easily... letting us process it with the thought of ... "what will be will be"...or it can be omnipresent in our mind making our journey heavy under it's crushing weight...

Each of us has our own priorities and vision of what will be... I think, in the end, after the period of trying think things through...and wonder ...and dream... and fear... and hope....there is only one way to find out what is truly attainable and that is... to seek to attain and be ready to accept what will come of that... There is a point in the process that always requires we jump off a bit of a cliff... It becomes the only way of truly discovering what awaits us... I found an amazing world at the bottom of the cliff that had just been waiting for me to arrive...

I hope you find amazing things as well!!!

Onward we go brave sister!!!

Ashley [emoji3][emoji173]️[emoji258]
Well put, I like that perspective [emoji173]

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tgirlamg

Quote from: Tuffcreampuff on February 03, 2018, 12:34:50 PM
Well put, I like that perspective [emoji173]

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Thank you sister!

There is so much anguish to be witnessed around the forum about what transition will bring us... In the end... There is only one way to truly know!!!!

Onward we go brave sister!!!

Ashley 😀❤️🌻
"To be yourself in a world that is constantly trying to make you something else is the greatest accomplishment" ... Ralph Waldo Emerson 🌸

"The individual has always had to struggle from being overwhelmed by the tribe... But, no price is too high for the privilege of owning yourself" ... Rudyard Kipling 🌸

Let go of the things that no longer serve you... Let go of the pretense of the false persona, it is not you... Let go of the armor that you have worn for a lifetime, to serve the expectations of others and, to protect the woman inside... She needs protection no longer.... She is tired of hiding and more courageous than you know... Let her prove that to you....Let her step out of the dark and feel the light upon her face.... amg🌸

Ashley's Corner: https://www.susans.org/index.php/topic,247549.0.html 🌻
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Tuffcreampuff

Quote from: tgirlamc on February 03, 2018, 12:49:29 PM
Thank you sister!

There is so much anguish to be witnessed around the forum about what transition will bring us... In the end... There is only one way to truly know!!!!

Onward we go brave sister!!!

Ashley [emoji3][emoji173]️[emoji258]
Cyber hug! Honey I am so scared sometimes, thank you

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Shambles

- Jo / Joanna

Pre-HRT Trans-Fem
16th Nov 17 - Came out to myself
7th Jan 18 - Came out to wife
31st Jan 18 - Referred to GIC / might be seen in 2020
Oct 18 - Fully out at one job, part out at another
Nov 18 - Out to close family
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tgirlamg

Quote from: Shambles on February 03, 2018, 02:49:09 PM
Ah Ashley, i love you


Thanks sis

All will be well little sister!!!... Onward we go brave girl!!!

👩❤️👩

"To be yourself in a world that is constantly trying to make you something else is the greatest accomplishment" ... Ralph Waldo Emerson 🌸

"The individual has always had to struggle from being overwhelmed by the tribe... But, no price is too high for the privilege of owning yourself" ... Rudyard Kipling 🌸

Let go of the things that no longer serve you... Let go of the pretense of the false persona, it is not you... Let go of the armor that you have worn for a lifetime, to serve the expectations of others and, to protect the woman inside... She needs protection no longer.... She is tired of hiding and more courageous than you know... Let her prove that to you....Let her step out of the dark and feel the light upon her face.... amg🌸

Ashley's Corner: https://www.susans.org/index.php/topic,247549.0.html 🌻
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Jessica_Rose

I posted this as a separate thread a few weeks ago, and I think it relates to your questions:

I still have a long way to go on my journey, but today I realized something that overshadows all of my doubts and fears. Before starting my journey I looked in a mirror and thought 'Wow, you are going to be one ugly woman'. I started the journey anyway, hoping HRT would perform magic and that one day I would at least be average in appearance. Today I suddenly realized that it does not matter whether or not others think I am beautiful, plain, or homely, what matters most is that I will finally be 'me'. No matter what others may say or think, I know that I am beautiful and unique. In all the world I am the only person who can be me. After all these years of living in darkness, letting my soul into the light and simply being me is all that I need.

Of course I am still going to try to be the prettiest 'me' that I can, but I refuse to let my perception of how I look get in my way. I am still quite apprehensive whenever I go out. After decades of frustration and anger, a few odd looks and comments is a small price to pay for me to finally let my soul out of the darkness where it was imprisoned for so many years.
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Hair - Hair Restoration
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tgirlamg

Quote from: Jessica_Rose on February 03, 2018, 06:18:43 PM
Of course I am still going to try to be the prettiest 'me' that I can, but I refuse to let my perception of how I look get in my way. I am still quite apprehensive whenever I go out. After decades of frustration and anger, a few odd looks are comments is a small price to pay for me to finally let my soul out of the darkness where it was imprisoned for so many years.

Jessica_Rose!!!

The statement above is why your transition and life beyond are going to be amazing and filled with beautiful discoveries... Getting people to this place is why I am here...

Hugs and Love Sister!!!

Ashley Marie ❤️
"To be yourself in a world that is constantly trying to make you something else is the greatest accomplishment" ... Ralph Waldo Emerson 🌸

"The individual has always had to struggle from being overwhelmed by the tribe... But, no price is too high for the privilege of owning yourself" ... Rudyard Kipling 🌸

Let go of the things that no longer serve you... Let go of the pretense of the false persona, it is not you... Let go of the armor that you have worn for a lifetime, to serve the expectations of others and, to protect the woman inside... She needs protection no longer.... She is tired of hiding and more courageous than you know... Let her prove that to you....Let her step out of the dark and feel the light upon her face.... amg🌸

Ashley's Corner: https://www.susans.org/index.php/topic,247549.0.html 🌻
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PollyQMcLovely

Quote from: Shambles on February 02, 2018, 03:44:59 PM
How do you begin to seperate whats asperational and whats obtainable?

Umm, I don't think what I'm about to say should be taken as advice, and I know it's probably an indication that I am weak, but it's my answer to the above question. Whenever I start worrying about what's actually obtainable I simply force myself to think about something else. I have plenty of reasons for transitioning, but my #1 reason is to some day be able to look in the mirror and not hate myself so so much. I haven't been able to willing let my picture be taken since I was a kid. You won't even find me in any yearbooks after grade school. And it's not because I look all that unattractive, I'm an average looking guy. I don't think I really need to explain why, I think you guys understand. Anyway, I can't let this issue stop me from obtaining all the other great things that come and will come with transitioning. I'm on HRT now, looking forward to SRS and I'm happier than I've been in a long long time.
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