Hi Ellie,

  It seems I missed your birthday party. I'm sorry. Belated !!yadhtriB yppaH

Hugs,
   Laurie

Quote from: Laurie on February 22, 2018, 10:43:28 PM
!!yadhtriB yppaH

SHE'S SPEAKING TONGUES, GET THE HOLY WATER!




.... seriously though, thank you! (And everyone else! I have been crying at the drop of a hat the last few days, it has felt pretty good even when it feels bad.)

Quote from: Roll on February 23, 2018, 07:22:13 AM
SHE'S SPEAKING TONGUES, GET THE HOLY WATER!




.... seriously though, thank you! (And everyone else! I have been crying at the drop of a hat the last few days, it has felt pretty good even when it feels bad.)

Gotta love them hormones! 

New numbers in!

Testosterone is down from 1480 to 698, so that is great, but does mean I'm sort of just now at the starting point for many people. Still, I seem to be making progress regardless.

Estradiol is up to 57 from 36, which doctor said was really good for the low dose.

Quote from: Roll on February 26, 2018, 02:48:18 PM
New numbers in!

Testosterone is down from 1480 to 698, so that is great, but does mean I'm sort of just now at the starting point for many people. Still, I seem to be making progress regardless.

Estradiol is up to 57 from 36, which doctor said was really good for the low dose.

Okay sounds cool though I don't know what the heck you're talking about  !!!

It's progress Ellie! The numbers are going the right way.

Hugs,
   Laurie

Quote from: PurpleWolf on February 26, 2018, 03:50:24 PM
Okay sounds cool though I don't know what the heck you're talking about  !!!

That's because you're a MAN and don't understand WOMEN thangs!!!

Quote from: Roll on February 26, 2018, 02:48:18 PM
New numbers in!

Testosterone is down from 1480 to 698, so that is great, but does mean I'm sort of just now at the starting point for many people. Still, I seem to be making progress regardless.

Estradiol is up to 57 from 36, which doctor said was really good for the low dose.

Yes the T is well within typical male ranges so more Spiro for you.  You must not be peeing enough yet [emoji16] that's honest about a standard deviation above typical males our age, so still above average.  The E going up is an excellent sign.  You are just slightly above menopausal range.  Still well shy of where you want but your on the right path.  My 3 month check up had my E go from 25.2 to a whopping 28.6 already doing better than I did.

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Quote from: amberwaves on February 27, 2018, 06:31:23 PM
Yes the T is well within typical male ranges so more Spiro for you.  You must not be peeing enough yet [emoji16] that's honest about a standard deviation above typical males our age, so still above average.  The E going up is an excellent sign.  You are just slightly above menopausal range.  Still well shy of where you want but your on the right path.  My 3 month check up had my E go from 25.2 to a whopping 28.6 already doing better than I did.

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Since it started out so high and has dropped over half already, she is leaving dosage of spiro alone to see if it just needed time to play catch-up. Another followup in 2 months to see where I am at to decide what to do with spiro now that numbers are going down to normal range.

Quote from: Roll on February 27, 2018, 06:33:46 PM
She is leaving dosage of spiro alone to see if it just needed time to play catch-up.

I'm anxious about my levels, and would like to know if Spiro 'needing to play catch-up' is a common occurrence and if so what is the time frame?

Edit: Does the same go for E?

Quote from: PollyQMcLovely on February 27, 2018, 08:08:57 PM
I'm anxious about my levels, and would like to know if Spiro 'needing to play catch-up' is a common occurrence and if so what is the time frame?

Edit: Does the same go for E?

Well, in my case my starting level of testosterone was absurdly high, 1480 (average is under half that and ceiling and usually around 1000). Dropping 800 points is a big deal, but since it was so high to begin with that just puts me at average versus down to nothing (which is the goal). But since it is clearly already doing what it needs to, no need to add additional costs/side effects/etc. as long as it is. It is, as far as I know, extraordinarily rare for testosterone to be that high, ever, even for people 15 years younger than me, so this should not be something you need to worry about.

E just sort of does what its going to do based on genetics as far as I know. I have a feeling my body likes hormones, which is why it had so much testosterone to begin with and seems to have taken to the estrogen pretty well even on a tiny dose.

Good to hear the 'mones are working! Halving the T and doubling the E is a good sign! Here's hoping the next numbers are even more exciting!

It's going in the right direction Ellie.  It might take a bit to get to whatever your doctor thinks is ideal. Mine liked to go slow too.  At 8 months in, I'm at the ideal that my doctor wanted.  I feel great too.

Bari Jo

While still haven't hit them with a door (I don't understand the logistics of that honestly, maybe I'm just used to years of being overweight so give doors wide berth?), breasts and nipples are definitely in a lot of pain and I keep doing things to hurt them. Apparently, I can no longer put anything in a shirt pocket, and running is a thing of the past.

Also, I talked to my dad about starting to go part time around house. I'm stuck in a horrible middle ground of needing to but being terrified to. And in that vein, I have started getting rid of a lot of guy clothes. Anything winter related (winter is over here) I never plan to wear again(as if I'm not full time by next winter in the south, something has gone wrong), so it's getting sold or going to goodwill. Stuff that is way too big on me now after losing so much weight, good will. Anything damaged, trash or rags. I'm going to keep trimming down male clothes until I get to the point I have no choice but to go to part time then full time unless I do laundry every other day.

On the non-hrt front, I am going crazy with school. While over the last year and a half I've been able to focus on it fairly readily and go all out with much issue, something has really changed. I find myself caring just a little less, and really having to force myself to work on classes. I think it is because it is no longer the most important (or really only) thing in my life.

And back to HRT for a moment, holy crap! Just looked at my arms and realized there is no visible hair and I haven't shaved in at least a week, when at the beginning of the year it would be obvious in a day or two. Cutting that testosterone down even to normal levels is making a crazy difference.

Quote from: Roll on February 28, 2018, 10:54:06 PM
While still haven't hit them with a door (I don't understand the logistics of that honestly, maybe I'm just used to years of being overweight so give doors wide berth?), breasts and nipples are definitely in a lot of pain and I keep doing things to hurt them. Apparently, I can no longer put anything in a shirt pocket, and running is a thing of the past.

Also, I talked to my dad about starting to go part time around house. I'm stuck in a horrible middle ground of needing to but being terrified to. And in that vein, I have started getting rid of a lot of guy clothes. Anything winter related (winter is over here) I never plan to wear again(as if I'm not full time by next winter in the south, something has gone wrong), so it's getting sold or going to goodwill. Stuff that is way too big on me now after losing so much weight, good will. Anything damaged, trash or rags. I'm going to keep trimming down male clothes until I get to the point I have no choice but to go to part time then full time unless I do laundry every other day.

On the non-hrt front, I am going crazy with school. While over the last year and a half I've been able to focus on it fairly readily and go all out with much issue, something has really changed. I find myself caring just a little less, and really having to force myself to work on classes. I think it is because it is no longer the most important (or really only) thing in my life.

And back to HRT for a moment, holy crap! Just looked at my arms and realized there is no visible hair and I haven't shaved in at least a week, when at the beginning of the year it would be obvious in a day or two. Cutting that testosterone down even to normal levels is making a crazy difference.

Awesome little Sis, as always, you give me something to look forward to though mine have continuously hurt for weeks now. 

Quote from: Sarah_P on February 23, 2018, 12:12:31 PM
Gotta love them hormones! 

Look'n good there Miss P.

Quote from: Roll on February 28, 2018, 10:54:06 PM
Also, I talked to my dad about starting to go part time around house. I'm stuck in a horrible middle ground of needing to but being terrified to.

That's a great first step. That's what I did once I moved in with my friends. They were the first ones to ever see me dressed as a woman, and they were so cool about it.

And I'm really happy for you on the body hair front. I epilate twice a week, and it doesn't feel like my legs are ever really smooth.

Ahh, you'll get the door experience soon enough.  My favorite is just picking up and holding a box against your chest.  It's very enjoyable pain!  I'm doing the same with my boy clothes.  I have a tiny amount of it still and hate it.  I don't ever want to wear a suit again.

Bari Jo

Quote from: Bari Jo on February 28, 2018, 11:36:37 PM
Ahh, you'll get the door experience soon enough.  My favorite is just picking up and holding a box against your chest.  It's very enjoyable pain!  I'm doing the same with my boy clothes.  I have a tiny amount of it still and hate it.  I don't ever want to wear a suit again.

Bari Jo

I was fortunate enough not to own any suits for a number of reasons (such as mysterious panic attacks that no on else seemed to have wearing them, gee, wonder why ), but the super guy style stuff is definitely bothering me. Fortunately my wardrobe consisted heavily of comic book t-shirts, and those I'm keeping since t-shirts are petty generic anyway. Though I want to buy some more girl cut ones for sure as development happens so they don't just hang loose.

Quote from: Roll on February 28, 2018, 10:54:06 PM
I'm going to keep trimming down male clothes until I get to the point I have no choice but to go to part time then full time unless I do laundry every other day.

Way to go girl  !!!

Quote from: Roll on February 28, 2018, 10:54:06 PM
On the non-hrt front, I am going crazy with school. While over the last year and a half I've been able to focus on it fairly readily and go all out with much issue, something has really changed. I find myself caring just a little less, and really having to force myself to work on classes. I think it is because it is no longer the most important (or really only) thing in my life.

Same!!! I have people to talk to now plus I'm actually looking forward to something!!! And gotta take care of so many things I've been neglecting over the years...! It seems transitioning (& improving my life in general) is the only thing I keep thinking about...! Plus my new friends,  .

Quote from: Roll on February 28, 2018, 10:54:06 PM
And back to HRT for a moment, holy crap! Just looked at my arms and realized there is no visible hair and I haven't shaved in at least a week, when at the beginning of the year it would be obvious in a day or two. Cutting that testosterone down even to normal levels is making a crazy difference.

Cool!

And congrats on the boobs, girl  ! I love them when they're on someone else's body  ! Hope you'll get a good pair,