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No Adams Apple

Started by judithlynn, February 28, 2018, 06:30:27 PM

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For those of us Transitioning from Male to Female ; how many of us have never had an Adams Apple to those that required surgery to remove a large one

No Adams Apple
24 (55.8%)
Barely noticeable Adams Apple - was able to live without surgery
11 (25.6%)
Very noticeable Adams Apple - not having surgery
1 (2.3%)
Very noticeable Adams Apple - planing to have tracheal shave surgery
5 (11.6%)
No Adams Apple as a result of tracheal shave surgery
2 (4.7%)

Total Members Voted: 43

Voting closed: February 28, 2019, 06:30:27 PM

judithlynn

I have put this poll up as I am curious as to how many of us have never had an Adams Apple or do not have a pronounced one.  I am actually a DES Child and have never had an Adams Apple, I have small hands, small feet (for a man), sloping shoulders  and a quite feminine rounded face (before HRT).
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Deborah

I was the product of DES also.  My Adams  Apple has never been prominent.  My face also was somewhat feminine which is working in my favor now.  As for the rest, my body is quite a mixture of traits.


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Dani

I am in the DES age group, but I have no physical signs of DES poisoning. I did have a small but noticeable Adam's apple, but a few months ago I had it shaved and my neck is very smooth now.
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Colleen_definitely

Nope, and DES was before my time.  No chest or back hair either.
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Sydney_NYC

DES child here and never had an Adam's apple and always had feminine hips.
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Born - 1970
Came Out To Self/Wife - Sept-21-2013
Started therapy - Oct-15-2013
Laser and Electrolysis - Oct-24-2013
HRT - Dec-12-2013
Full time - Mar-15-2014
Name change  - June-23-2014
GCS - Nov-2-2017 (Dr Rachel Bluebond-Langner)


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stephaniec

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pamelatransuk

Judith

I see from other posts you moved from UK to Australia. Do you know timespan DES given to UK women perhaps? I was born in 1955 and I assume my mother (sadly now deceased) may have been given it.

I have no Adams Apple and I was told repeatedly by a mother and occasionally by others that I have a feminine face.

Thanking you

Pamela


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emma-f

No Adams Apple here - was asked by a girl in Manchester Village who did my tracheal shave. Guess I'm lucky in that regard
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KathyLauren

I am another (probable, unconfirmed) DES baby.  I do have an adam's apple, though it is not huge.  I answered with the "very noticeable" option because it is the only one saying that I planned to have the surgery.  "Somewhat noticeable" would be more accurate.

I have quite a few other typical DES symptoms, including almost no body hair (like maybe 12 hairs on my chest), female pubic hair pattern, poor upper body strength, female digit ratio.
2015-07-04 Awakening; 2015-11-15 Out to self; 2016-06-22 Out to wife; 2016-10-27 First time presenting in public; 2017-01-20 Started HRT!!; 2017-04-20 Out publicly; 2017-07-10 Legal name change; 2019-02-15 Approval for GRS; 2019-08-02 Official gender change; 2020-03-11 GRS; 2020-09-17 New birth certificate
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josie76

No externally noticable adams apple. Feminine skeletal features. Only minor exterior general folds abnormalities.
I had full beard hair but lacked almost all chest and back hair until I was 30. Also now realize I had a triangular (female) pubic hair pattern until around 30 when lower belly and back grew some in with my chest.

Mom knows she had a prescription but has no idea what it actually was. Could have contained DES. Otherwise I and my doctor suspect a mild form of AIS but he says there is no medical reason to undergo the genetic test for it.

I still have unanswered questions.
04/26/2018 bi-lateral orchiectomy

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steph2.0

Barely noticeable Adams Apple, and hidden under the skin. I apparently have enough feminine features to be passing and full-time after only 5 months full-dose HRT. I was born in the right era (1958) but my mom doesn't remember taking any special drugs.

Stephanie


Assigned male at birth 1958 * Began envying sister 1963 * Knew unquestioningly that I was female 1968 * Acted the male part for 50 years * Meltdown and first therapist session May 2017 * Began HRT 6/21/17 * Out to the world 10/13/17 * Name Change 12/7/2017 (Girl Harbor Day) * FFS With FacialTeam 12/4/2018 * Facelift and Lipo Body Sculpting at Ocean Clinic 6/13-14/2019 * GCS with Marci Bowers 9/25/2019
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Lady Sarah

 In spite of the fact that I was a very skinny androgynous 'male' with feminine features and mannerisms, I had an Adams apple that stuck out far enough that it stopped me from passing as female. I had to go under the knife, and have it removed, just so I could go on with my life.
started HRT: July 13, 1991
orchi: December 23, 1994
trach shave: November, 1998
married: August 16, 2015
Back surgery: October 20, 2016
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Kendra

No plans for tracheal shave - not really needed.  Skeletal structure not very masculine.  Did develop a lot of facial and body hair, developed male in other ways but endocrine system went haywire in middle age.  Lost 4 inches (10cm) height between college and early 50s.  That amount of bone loss shocked me into running hormone tests.  For HRT, endocrinologist prescribed just estradiol with no t-blocker. 

I asked my mother if she took DES in 1963 (I was born in the US).  She said no - only took a special iron supplement while she was pregnant, carefully avoided anything else.  But I wonder if an iron supplement marketed to pregnant women in that era may have contained additional "features".
Assigned male at birth 1963.  Decided I wanted to be a girl in 1971.  Laser 2014-16, electrolysis 2015-17, HRT 7/2017, GCS 1/2018, VFS 3/2018, FFS 5/2018, Labiaplasty & BA 7/2018. 
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KathyLauren

Quote from: Kendra on March 01, 2018, 02:59:51 PM
I asked my mother if she took DES in 1963 (I was born in the US).  She said no - only took a special iron supplement while she was pregnant, carefully avoided anything else.  But I wonder if an iron supplement marketed to pregnant women in that era may have contained additional "features".
I haven't heard about iron supplements containing DES.  But it is well known that some "vitamin supplements" contained DES, so it is certainly plausible.  Especially if it was by prescription, or was marketed specifically to pregnant women.
2015-07-04 Awakening; 2015-11-15 Out to self; 2016-06-22 Out to wife; 2016-10-27 First time presenting in public; 2017-01-20 Started HRT!!; 2017-04-20 Out publicly; 2017-07-10 Legal name change; 2019-02-15 Approval for GRS; 2019-08-02 Official gender change; 2020-03-11 GRS; 2020-09-17 New birth certificate
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big kim

DES baby (1957), never had Adam's apple but got a voice like Lemmy!
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VickyS

No adam's apple, small hands & smallish feet.  Been told I have feminine features.  Had feminine jaw until surgery to correct Mal-occlusion (mandibular & maxillary osteotomy).  No head hair loss despite being 43 years old.  But lots of body hair, luckily light coloured and some fine.  Female digit ratio and apparently female pubic hair pattern! Did not know that was a thing!
Came out to self: mid Oct 17                   Last haircut: 3rd Nov 17       
Came out to wife: 17th Jan 18                 Therapy started: 1st Mar 18
Electrolysis started: 10th Apr 18              Referred to GIC: 16th May 18
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Julia1996

I never had one thankfully. Another reason Im thankful for my mostly ineffective male puberty.
Julia


Born 1998
Started hrt 2015
SRS done 5/21/2018
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Jazmynne

I do not have an adams apple either  nor have never had alarge amount of chest hair thank goodness, what I do have is shaven off plus have started shaving my underarms. Being born in 1954 I am pretty sure I am also a des child as my mother had a miscarriage before  I was born,so I asked her once if she was given anything to prevent another one and she did remember being given vitamins to prevent another so being not very masculine it just stands to reason.   
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natalie.ashlyne

No I don't have an adams apple one less surgery   
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barbie

I also sometimes suspect of diethylstilbestrol, but as I know it should have been unavailable in my country (S. Korea) in the 1960s. I have had very feminine body features unlike my brother. Unlike my siblings, I had to eat powdered milk instead of mother's milk, as my mom lacked it. At that time, probably powdered milk from cow that were fed by DES could be imported from other countries, but I have no information on it.

My Adams' apple is very unnoticeable, even compared with my East Asian male friends. My old friends used to make fun of it.



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