Quote from: Sonja on March 01, 2018, 08:29:41 PM
bought a remington IPL - smooth as silk thighs, pubic area , bum ( whole area), hands, feet, arms etc  I got the new one that doesn't need replacing the bulb and gives 'permanent' results.

What model did you get? I've looked at the Essentials and for $199 that seems almost too good to be true (works on body and face)

Quote from: lexxy on March 01, 2018, 09:45:30 PM
What model did you get? I've looked at the Essentials and for $199 that seems almost too good to be true (works on body and face)

Hi Lexxy - We got the Remington I-Light Pro, face & body Ipl, it advertises as permanent hair removal with infinity bulb that doesn't need replacing.

One thing to realize about IPL versus waxing/epilating - you don't need any hair length to do it- you just keep going every 2 weeks, so whether it is in fact permanent or not, the hair simply stops growing and your skin is completely smooth - no need for a small amount of growth to occur like waxing/epilating.  Also mine is plugged in - not battery- I would hate to try and do this with a recharchable - it just wouldn't go long enough.

Of course the only big downside for Ipl is it only works on light brown to black hairs, no blonde or red and your skin has to be mid olive or lighter for safety reasons ( it works by killing the melanin in hair follicles )

Any other questions feel free to ask :-)

Sonja.

Quote from: lexxy on March 01, 2018, 09:45:30 PM
What model did you get? I've looked at the Essentials and for $199 that seems almost too good to be true (works on body and face)

Don't trust them on face for "guy" hair, most people wind up injuring themselves.

Quote from: Roll on March 03, 2018, 12:25:24 AM
Don't trust them on face for "guy" hair, most people wind up injuring themselves.

Really? Thought it would be the perfect combo: dark hair on light skin... how would you injure yourself with IPL*?

*Technically HPL

Quote from: lexxy on March 03, 2018, 11:58:45 AM
Really? Thought it would be the perfect combo: dark hair on light skin... how would you injure yourself with IPL*?

*Technically HPL

Probably from your convulsions because of the pain!!!!

Quote from: lexxy on March 03, 2018, 11:58:45 AM
Really? Thought it would be the perfect combo: dark hair on light skin... how would you injure yourself with IPL*?

*Technically HPL

"Male" facial hair, that we are unfortunately plagued with, is a bit different than the stray hairs associated with female facial hair. Density and coarseness mostly, I believe. While it depends heavily on the individual for sure, many people even with favorable hair/skin contrast will still burn and scar themselves attempting using the at home devices on male style facial hair, even if there is zero issue on the rest of their body. If you read the manuals and warnings on the devices they should all explicitly say whether they can be used on male facial hair or not. I think some are certified for it, but most are not.

Quote from: Roll on March 03, 2018, 12:47:56 PM
"Male" facial hair, that we are unfortunately plagued with, is a bit different than the stray hairs associated with female facial hair. Density and coarseness mostly, I believe. While it depends heavily on the individual for sure, many people even with favorable hair/skin contrast will still burn and scar themselves attempting using the at home devices on male style facial hair, even if there is zero issue on the rest of their body. If you read the manuals and warnings on the devices they should all explicitly say whether they can be used on male facial hair or not. I think some are certified for it, but most are not.

Wow! Good to know! However the Remington Essentials manual makes no reference to sex or warning of facial hair other than keep away from eyes http://cdn.spectrumbrands.com/~/media/PersonalCare/Remington2017/Files/Manuals/Womens/IPL/IPL3500USA%20iLight%20Essential%20Manual.PDF (except that technically it is classed as a women's product. No clarification is provided)

Quote from: lexxy on March 03, 2018, 01:10:15 PM
Wow! Good to know! However the Remington Essentials manual makes no reference to sex or warning of facial hair other than keep away from eyes http://cdn.spectrumbrands.com/~/media/PersonalCare/Remington2017/Files/Manuals/Womens/IPL/IPL3500USA%20iLight%20Essential%20Manual.PDF (except that technically it is classed as a women's product. No clarification is provided)

I can help!  I used my IPL on my neck -  as a trial before contemplating face - it recommends guys don't do it -->because it can give uneven results but doesn't give any other reason. DO NOT got above your cheek bone - you will permanently damage your eye's - the light does creep some distance through your skin - even on a test area to the side and with my eyes squeezed shut I had a bright flash in my eye balls - not a good idea....

Now I did successfully remove all the hair from my neck right up to my chinline - except and interestingly the few white hairs around that are completely unaffected.  My facial hair is quite thick and all over so I shave every day, but it did work on my neck, the bad news - the first 2 sessions it really hurt - its very sensitive all around that area - want an indictation?  like when you epilate behind your knees*3.  Given enough sessions i reckon it would definately remove or keep your face hair at bay - but it would be a painful each time.  I always IPL infront of a heatpump on cold and afterwards sometimes rub an icecube on skin areas that were a bit tender.  You shouldn't get any scaring on your skin unless you have very dark skin or if its wet/ very moist - I always keep wiping my skin before I zap to clear perspiration - but I never got any scaring or anything beyond a bit of redness that was gone by morning.

Sonja.

Quote from: Sonja on March 03, 2018, 06:45:56 PM
I can help!  I used my IPL on my neck -  as a trial before contemplating face - it recommends guys don't do it -->because it can give uneven results but doesn't give any other reason. DO NOT got above your cheek bone - you will permanently damage your eye's - the light does creep some distance through your skin - even on a test area to the side and with my eyes squeezed shut I had a bright flash in my eye balls - not a good idea....

Now I did successfully remove all the hair from my neck right up to my chinline - except and interestingly the few white hairs around that are completely unaffected.  My facial hair is quite thick and all over so I shave every day, but it did work on my neck, the bad news - the first 2 sessions it really hurt - its very sensitive all around that area - want an indictation?  like when you epilate behind your knees*3.  Given enough sessions i reckon it would definately remove or keep your face hair at bay - but it would be a painful each time.  I always IPL infront of a heatpump on cold and afterwards sometimes rub an icecube on skin areas that were a bit tender.  You shouldn't get any scaring on your skin unless you have very dark skin or if its wet/ very moist - I always keep wiping my skin before I zap to clear perspiration - but I never got any scaring or anything beyond a bit of redness that was gone by morning.

Sonja.

Wow thanks for the detailed response! I think I may try it for the legs and arms first and see how I feel. I'm already doing electrolysis but it can be painful, slow, and has a higher risk of skim blemishes. We'll see. I'd almost rather just stick with electrolysis and zap the rest of my body for the rest of my life.

Quote from: lexxy on March 03, 2018, 07:38:24 PM
I'd almost rather just stick with electrolysis and zap the rest of my body for the rest of my life.

My plan is take it all out for sure with regular laser. I've seen the math, it saves over other methods of hair removal pretty quickly despite larger up front cost. Not sure how that works out with electro since it takes so much longer, but cost wise it seems like it would be about as effective.

Fortunately after 3 years of HRT and the fact that I did not have excess body and face hair previous to my transition, it seems that the HRT has significantly reduced just about all of my leg, arm and chest/stomach hair... I still have to tend to my thinning face hair every couple days or so...
For me, shaving is the best for my skin, all the other methods (even at a salon) I have tried seem to cause all kinds of irritation issues.
Because I am full-time, obviously any hair showing up in the wrong places is not a good thing.

Waxing and epilator will eventually cause hair ingrowth, as you repeat removing hair and it grows again. My solution was Tria home laser. It never caused any ingrown hair.

https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php?topic=102684.0

barbie~~

I think I'll be trying the Remington iLight Essentials next as it seems to be a good price, and I don't mind plugging it in.
I did ask specifically if it was safe to use on male facial hair and they said no. However it is approved for facial use in general.

Quote from: lexxy on March 06, 2018, 09:02:55 PM
I think I'll be trying the Remington iLight Essentials next as it seems to be a good price, and I don't mind plugging it in.
I did ask specifically if it was safe to use on male facial hair and they said no. However it is approved for facial use in general.

Hi Lexxy - just check that the model you're getting comes with a face attachment - mine did, it came with 2 attachments. 1 for body , 1 for face. The face attachment simply has less ventilation around the bulb to stop light from leaking towards your eyes - to compensate for the extra heat around the bulb the device only lets you zap every 4 seconds instead of 3 for body attachment. Obviously the fact that mine has a face attachment means it is safe for a face - they do state its for female face, but when I investigated the reason for not being for male face was not safety it was for uneven results ( BUT i guarantee the thicker hair from mtf face will be more painful than thin hair)  but it IS painful for both.  I laugh at the Remington statement that it 'shouldn't be painful' ....My wife's profanity says otherwise....

Sonja.

The remington ilight models are usually on groupon for pretty cheap compared to elsewhere.