Quote from: Kiera on March 24, 2018, 04:40:34 PM
Seriously? After forty(40) years on/off/on again HRT . . . .

I have never been on HRT until a few weeks ago.. 

Quote from: Chelsea1807 on March 24, 2018, 07:33:27 PM
I have never been on HRT until a few weeks ago.. 

That's great!  That means you'll have at least 40 years

"Odds of dying from HRT"

Oh, the humanity!

Quote from: Devlyn Marie on March 24, 2018, 08:01:40 PM
"Odds of dying from HRT"

Oh, the humanity!

Aha!  The CAUSE of dying from HRT!!!!!!

Oh the Hindenburg!

Well the GPs sure like telling me there's a certain risk factor of death from HRT, but it's not really death from HRT is it - it's the increased risk of death from organ failures, strokes, high BP, heart disease, liver complications etc. that testosterone fails to protect against (or slightly exacerbates). The hormone itself isn't known for killing anybody.

So I'm not seeing my odds of keeling over go up much provided I take care of myself in other areas and don't abuse the gear. The lower life expectancy of men compared to women is probably more due to a) more risk-taking (or dumb) behavior or b) more men doing more physically dangerous or detrimental professions on the whole than anything significant to do with their hormonal make-up.

I haven't felt better in decades since HRT to be honest. I feel like I'm 19 all over again.

If I fail to log in after this these were my famous last words.

Quote from: Kylo on March 24, 2018, 08:27:20 PM
Well the GPs sure like telling me there's a certain risk factor of death from HRT, but it's not really death from HRT is it - it's the increased risk of death from organ failures, strokes, high BP, heart disease, liver complications etc. that testosterone fails to protect against (or slightly exacerbates). The hormone itself isn't known for killing anybody.

So I'm not seeing my odds of keeling over go up much provided I take care of myself in other areas and don't abuse the gear. The lower life expectancy of men compared to women is probably more due to a) more risk-taking (or dumb) behavior or b) more men doing more physically dangerous or detrimental professions on the whole than anything significant to do with their hormonal make-up.

I haven't felt better in decades since HRT to be honest. I feel like I'm 19 all over again.

If I fail to log in after this these were my famous last words.

That may or may not explain the average lifespan of men, but women own the top ten oldest people list. There's not a man on it. Surely there'd be one smart bloke that never put his finger in a light socket or smoked cigarettes that would crash that list? 

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Quote from: Devlyn Marie on March 24, 2018, 08:36:43 PM
That may or may not explain the average lifespan of men, but women own the top ten oldest people list. There's not a man on it. Surely there'd be one smart bloke that never put his finger in a light socket or smoked cigarettes that would crash that list? 

PS Hope you log back in!

And now, ladies and gentlemen, arriving from out of the blue is Miss Devyl Marie, first to beat the top ten - the torch has been taken!!!!!!!

I don't know how true this is, but there's supposed to be an Indonesian dude who's pushing 145 according to a newspaper, born in 1870 (148). I'm a bit skeptical of the numerical details, but he sure looks ancient.

I think women just take better care of themselves in general too. They seem to think more about their bodies and check stuff out more, they go to the doctors more often and don't tend to hold off till they're practically dying of something like guys do before they'll go see a doc (guilty). I suppose there could be all sorts of reasons.

Quote from: Kylo on March 24, 2018, 08:52:07 PM
I don't know how true this is, but there's supposed to be an Indonesian dude who's pushing 145 according to a newspaper, born in 1870 (148). I'm a bit skeptical of the numerical details, but he sure looks ancient.

I think women just take better care of themselves in general. They seem to think more about their bodies, they go to the doctors more often and don't tend to hold off till they're practically dying of something like guys do before they'll go see a doc. I suppose there could be all sorts of reasons.

Well, we'll all have to go to Florida and drink out of the Fountain of Youth or is it the Fountain of HRT, I forget - need to take my memory water

As medical science continues to extend lifespans, it's probably true to say that at some point, stupidity will become the leading cause of death [emoji23]

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Quote from: Devlyn Marie on March 24, 2018, 08:01:40 PM
"Odds of dying from HRT"

Oh, the humanity!

One if my unfunny jokes has been when leaving somewhere to say "see you tomorrow, unless I get hit by a bus"

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Odds of Dying from Doctors, the "medical community":

Quote from: dated MAY 22, 2017Within the same hospital, elderly patients had higher death rates when they were treated by older physicians than when younger doctors cared for them, a recent study concludes.

Quote from: gov funded programs?. . . bad hospital care contributed to the deaths of 180,000 patients in Medicare alone in a given year.

           We 'ave "insurance" they have "insurance" WHO really gains from what has really been considered "standard practice" for as long as I can remember?

"Medical Errors Are Third Leading Cause of Death in the U.S."

QuoteMedical errors are an "epidemic" that claim hundreds of thousands of lives annually, according to a new analysis

If it's a blood clot that worries you, that risk was associated  with Premarin (which I hope no one is taking for any reason anymore) and the types used in birth control pills.   The risk with estradiol is practically nil and the warnings are only there because of the other drugs. 

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Quote from: TonyaW on March 25, 2018, 09:25:52 AM
If it's a blood clot that worries you, that risk was associated  with Premarin (which I hope no one is taking for any reason anymore) and the types used in birth control pills.   The risk with estradiol is practically nil and the warnings are only there because of the other drugs.

Exactly that. Inform yourself and soon enough, your fears will be allayed.

In 3 months I will have been on Estrodial Valerate for 20 years without a break!  That is a hell of a lot of sharp needles I've jabbed into my buttocks over the decades!

At age 53 I have no health concerns. I am healthy, happy, and full of energy and vitality.

And seriously, let's face it, we all must die of something, no exceptions.  When I'm done acting a fool on this planet, I plan to leave this body behind anyway. Amen and pass the syringe!

Love,
Miharu