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mtf how old were you when you began to transition?

Started by Shawnna, March 18, 2018, 06:21:34 PM

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Kokoro

Hopefully it will be 30, or if not very soon after my 31st birthday.
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softbutchharley

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Yuusui

That all depends on what you mean by begin. I am currently 54. I have been on HRT for 16 months, but I started the journey of transitioning when I was around 28.

Northern Star Girl

I am 38 now....  I started transitioning without HRT around 32 or 33...  then at 34 and 35 I got serious about it and started HRT....  and I have been full-time for about a year and a half now.....   I should have done this many years earlier, but I am making up for lost time!!!!
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Quote from: Alaskan Danielle on March 22, 2018, 01:47:28 PM
I am 38 now....  I started transitioning without HRT around 32 or 33...  then at 34 and 35 I got serious about it and started HRT....  and I have been full-time for about a year and a half now.....   I should have done this many years earlier, but I am making up for lost time!!!!

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iamthatiam8

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Thadrea

I started to transition at age 17, shortly before my 18th birthday.
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Sharon Anne McC

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Hello Sharon Anne

Precisely. We all transition whenever the time is right.

Just our of interest do you recall the name of the program as I assume they did not use the term "Dysphoria"? Briefly what did it cover apart from the obvious matters of transvestites and transsexuals? Did it cover the inner conflict between mind and body to a significant degree? Is it true in those days they thought incorrectly that all transsexuals were gay (before transition)? Did they not separate sexuality from gender as we do now?


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Yes, it was truly the 'Gender Dysphoria Program',  While I can't know what the civilians of that day knew, I can tell you that that term was a kinda inside password among we Transsexuals in those 'old days'.  Anyone who knew that term had to be involved personally or as an ally and were safe companions.

The Stanford program requirements are listed in about five pages.  Cautions included much of what is still advised nowadays.  On the other hand, there are differences due to social and legal changes.

     -  Back then there was no such thing as 'Marriage Equality' - Stanford required that the participant be divorced.  Some states prohibited any Transition until the marriage was dissolved, other states required divorce before SRS / GCS surgery ('Neocolporrhaphy' as the term was back then).

     -  Stanford required minimums at least of two years: either one year RLE before them and one year RLE with them, or if no prior, then two years with them.

     -  'Others relate naturally to you as a woman rather than as a Transsexual' was a major warning.

     -  Their surgery actually cautioned that the patient would not experience orgasm.

     -  There was no dilation back then.  The result was a wide organ.  Some surgery centers required that the patient wear an appliance post-op.

     -  Stanford required that electrolysis be completed before GCS / SRS.

There was no FFS as we know today; Dr. Ousterhout developed that process in the 1990s.  Patients had no recourse back then.  Among my positive factors was that I was lucky to have started young with minimal 'T poisoning'.

Yes, the medical community was highly un-informed about homosexuality and transvestism versus transsexuality.  Transvestites could be easier to exclude.  Many homosexual males were tragically directed toward Transition and surgery.  One common concept was that one partner of a 'Gay' marriage would do the operation and voila they are a heterosexual couple accepted by society. 

     -  'Soap' was an ABC network TV show.  Jody, a homosexual character (played by Billy Crystal), sought to have the surgery in exactly this manner.

     -  'What Sex Am I?' was a 1985 HBO documentary (produced by both Stanford and Janus) that examined M-F, F-M, transvestism, and homosexuality.

My case had its own bumps along the way.  I originally resided at quite small, out-of-the-way towns; Transition was complicated before Stanford.  Once accepted, travelling to and from Palo Alto was considered a hardship because of my remoteness; they allowed me to present my papers to local counsellors and physicians for local services. Then I moved to metropolitan Salt Lake City where not one physician or counsellor accepted me til 1983; a counsellor a few years ago told me of hearing about my case through professional circles and confirmed to me that I was the only official Transsexual patient at Utah during the early 1980s.  My Inter-sex diagnosis also changed my course when doctors declared me medically / biologically female before I had any subsequent operations.

I had one counsellor during the 1990s who seemed to lack comprehending sexuality from gender identity.  He frequently admonished me 'You had the operation to have sex with men, not women'.  So I never told him about my Lesbian girlfriend.

I span the old and the new - I transitioned four decades ago and I was fortunate to have had the opportunity to do a revision with Dr. Chettawut.  I hope this narrative helps.

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1956:  Birth (AMAB)
1974-1985:  Transition (core transition:  1977-1985)
1977:  Enrolled in Stanford University Medical Center's 'Gender Dysphoria Program'
1978:  First transition medical appointment
1978:  Corresponded with Janus Information Facility (Galveston)
1978:  Changed my SSA file to Sharon / female
1979:  First psychological evaluation - passed
1979:  Began ERT (Norinyl, DES, Premarin, estradiol, progesterone)
1980:  Arizona affirmed me legally as Sharon / female
1980:  MVD changed my licence to Sharon / female
1980:  First bank account as Sharon / female
1982:  Inter-sex exploratory:  diagnosed Inter-sex (genetically female)
1983:  Inter-sex corrective surgery
1984:  Full-blown 'male fail' phase
1985:  Transition complete to female full-time forever
2015:  Awakening from self-imposed deep stealth and isolation
2015 - 2016:  Chettawut Clinic - patient companion and revision
Today:  Happy!
Future:  I wanna return to Bangkok with other Thai experience friends

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pamelatransuk

Sharon

Fascinating summary thank you.

It is always interesting to read of trans matters (including individual cases) from the "early" days of the 1970s.

I really thought the term "dysphoria" although correct was only used for the last 20 years. I stand corrected.

Thank you for all your time.

I am so glad you describe yourself now as happy.

Good luck for the future.


Pamela


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Karen_A

Quote from: Sharon Anne McC on March 21, 2018, 05:33:36 PM

No one is either 'too old' or 'too young' when you Transition - you begin your journey when you are ready to do it, when you are at your correct age to do it.

There are 2 parts to that statement... I agree with the first part -- At least for me in in my day (mid 90's - times have changed) you started when the pain of not doing it exceeded the fear of doing it.

But the "correct" age? I can say with 100% certainty it was at least  not the optimal age, although In a different environment it would have been at a different age. I started teh process at 39 and I am 62 now...

If I had started 11 years earlier, while it likely would not have made much difference physically (as I would still have been physically mature), it would have made a HUGE difference socially, my life and transition trajectory would have been totally different from what it has been.

I don't think 39 was the correct age for me to start, it was just the age where the pain overwhelmed the fear. If I had had the right support, or teh times had been different,  it would not have been at 39.

The city where I went to college had a gender clinic back in the 70's and 80's. Its as not as well known as Stamford and only referred to surgery...  I had not hear about it until much later after it had disbanded.

The therapist I had in the 90's had been part of it... She as much as told me that because of my physicality I would not have been accepted there... (that was a big factor in my fear of transition)

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Reme

Im hoping to start HRT before i turn 27 in a few months
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Cassi

HRT since 1/04/2018
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Michelle_P

Age 62, almost 2 years ago. 

I'm one of those 'transition or die' folks, repressed myself way too long, leading to some damage that makes me an ongoing work.
Earth my body, water my blood, air my breath and fire my spirit.

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EllenJ2003

#74
I started cross dressing as a kid in the 70s (my mom told me a few years ago, that she knew I was doing so at the time), but I really started transitioning at age 35 in late 1998 (when I first saw my therapist), with HRT started just before I turned 36 (would have done it sooner but the gender program I was in, was between healthcare providers for HRT [and I was not about to put up with hostility from doctors, making HRT inquiries in small city that i lived in]).  Had an orchiechtomy in July 2001, when I was 37, and my SRS in Nov. 2003, when I was 40.

I really wanted to transition much younger (1970s & 80s).  Above and beyond the resistance and hostility I got from my parents, when I came out to them as a teenager, there was NO INFORMATION for my neck of the woods (Wisconsin), on where to go for help.  My "progressive" alma mater (the University of Wisconsin), didn't even offer transition services, much less SRS, when I looked into transitioning during college (despite having a world class medical school), and then I was broke after college, and also wasted time trying last ditch attempts, to substitute for/distract me from transitioning. 

I found out about the gender program I went through, in the mid 90s (and found out to my chagrin that it had been around since the early 80s, but was very much underground/not well known at the time), really got down to business with trying to save money for transition, and SRS (I figured I needed at least $30,000 at the time), but reached a point where it basically became do or die for me.  I was nowhere near my financial goals, but I was on the verge of killing myself, so I took a deep breath, and took the plunge. At times it was rough financially (especially, when my company did some major downsizing in 2002, and in order to keep a job during the recession that was going on at the time, I took the equivalent of a $5/hr cut in pay [I was a salaried employee, and ended up as an hourly employee]).  It was also rough at times emotionally.  It's very daunting to transition in a workplace that employs several hundred people (most of whom know you to a greater or lesser extent, because of your job - one person from work acted like a bastard, and outed me at a local Radio Shack where he worked part time, in front of about 10 people, shortly after my legal name change in late 2000 [I ended up filing a complaint with Radio Shack about it]), and it's no fun becoming estranged from friends and family.

I persevered though and reached the light at the end of the tunnel.  There was never any thought in my mind about finishing things up.  I worked myself half to death to scrape up the money, had my SRS (along with a trach shave and a nose job), and I got on with life.  As I said earlier, I wish I could have done it when I was younger, but there is the sobering knowledge, that due to being microphallic (as I was told by both the urologist who did my Orchiectomy, and Dr. Suporn), my surgical result from what was state of the art at the time I wanted it done (the 1980s), would have been disastrous, with next to nothing for vaginal depth.  Because I had it done at a time when additional surgical techniques had been developed, the results were quite good.  :)

Ellen - who talks too much :)
HRT Since 1999
Legal Name Change and Full Time in Dec. 2000
Orchiectomy in July 2001
SRS (Yaay!! :)) Nov. 25, 2003 by Suporn
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Rumples

Well, I started the whole cross dressing thing at an early age, and that earned me my dad's wrath.  I was caught out at various points by my mum after they had split. Fortunately for me, I started my transition in college, I was quite lucky looks wise, so it was easy enough; and thanks to a friend's dad, I had been working weekends for my last 3 years of school so I had a bit of funding behind me.

It was very bumpy, my mum and I fought like cat and dog about it; and to this day it's a strain on my relationship with mother/sister.
Turn to page 137:
You enter the room, Rumples slowly turns to face you, tilts her head and let's out a slight smirk. Everything you were, are, and ever will be disintegrates into absolute nothingness.
Your adventure ends here.
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allisonsteph

#76
I began living full time 2 months before my 45th birthday and began HRT on February 13, 2014 at the age of 45 years, 2 months, and 27 days
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AnwenEira

I was 31 when I started in November of 2016, not too long before my 32nd Birthday. I'd just had enough, and if I didn't transition it'd probably kill me.


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GCHR88

Hello All out there !

I started to experiment with presentation when I was younger , but I began HRT treatment at age 22 in 2010 and was full time within the year. 

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Jessica

Quote from: GCHR88 on March 28, 2018, 10:17:41 PM
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