Hey,

I was just wondering if there are any alternative ways to have top surgery and not have the scars?  I scar super easily and am concerned that other problems may arise from the surgery.  Also, if there is no other way, what did you do to minimise the scarring and is it possible for the scars to fully disappear. 

Cheers,

Dexter

If you have a large B cup plus you will need to get the double incision procedure. If you have the peri areola surgery; which doesn't leave you with scars;  and are bigger chested you will have a bad result.

Frankly you have to accept all the things that could go wrong with surgery; and weigh them against how badly you want the surgery regardless.  Even before getting referred to a surgeon.

And I have seen double incision scars which just look like a faint silvery/white line; barely visible. But that takes a few years

I put silicone dioxide scar gel on my scars twice a day and after 4 months of using it can see they've faded slightly.

Scars are unavoidable if you have the DI procedure. To avoid stretching them you have to be careful how much activity you do in the first few weeks/months after the op. There's a few different things people recommend to help with scars, aloe vera, microneedles, coconut oil etc

There is a relatively new proceedure for us men with larger chests.  It's called "the drawstring." 

From what little I've been able to find, they cut around your nipple, leaving the nerves and blood vessels for it intact, and take out the excess skin and fat from there, then sew the new edges of the skin after the excess skin haz been cut away back around the nipples.  Its still a new proceedure, but from what I understand, there's MUCH less scarring, and what scarring there is is around the nipples, not under the pecs.  You also don't have to worry about loss of nipple sensation, since the nerves are never cut.

As an African-American man, ANY scars would never fade on me, but would be permenant dark lines, something I don't wish to have.  I'm still in the early stages of researching who'll do any surgery, and I hope that someone not too far away from me does this surgery.  When I asked about that particular surgery here on the forum, someone sent me a resource link, but that was a while ago, so I'd have to do a search to re-find it.  If you find it, feel free to post it in this thread as well.

Pesonally, I'm willing to keep binding until I can have the drawstring surgery.  The idea of permanent lines that will NEVER fade is more dyphoric to me than my moobs.

Ryuichi

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Scars don't bother me that much, except if it's easy to tell what they're from in this case. Curved scars with DI are probably better because they can be placed in a way that can be disguised if you build up your pecs at a later date, at least in theory. There's some procedures that have more than one set of horizontal scar lines, and those would probably be more obvious, especially the ones that run straight across the chest instead of the lower side of the pecs. I've seen images of those but I don't know what reason people have in particular for straight running scars right across each side. There must be a specific reason a surgeon does that.

Quote from: Ryuichi13 on March 02, 2018, 08:10:54 AM
There is a relatively new proceedure for us men with larger chests.  It's called "the drawstring." 

From what little I've been able to find, they cut around your nipple, leaving the nerves and blood vessels for it intact, and take out the excess skin and fat from there, then sew the new edges of the skin after the excess skin haz been cut away back around the nipples.  Its still a new proceedure, but from what I understand, there's MUCH less scarring, and what scarring there is is around the nipples, not under the pecs.  You also don't have to worry about loss of nipple sensation, since the nerves are never cut.

As an African-American man, ANY scars would never fade on me, but would be permenant dark lines, something I don't wish to have.  I'm still in the early stages of researching who'll do any surgery, and I hope that someone not too far away from me does this surgery.  When I asked about that particular surgery here on the forum, someone sent me a resource link, but that was a while ago, so I'd have to do a search to re-find it.  If you find it, feel free to post it in this thread as well.

Pesonally, I'm willing to keep binding until I can have the drawstring surgery.  The idea of permanent lines that will NEVER fade is more dyphoric to me than my moobs.

Ryuichi

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I would love to have this!! It sounds super awesome! I couldn't find anything under drawstring but I found periareolar surgeries instead (https://www.genderconfirmation.com/surgery/periareolar/) and (http://www.ftmtopsurgery.ca/ftm-procedures/periareolar-keyhole-incision/) and the results are amazing

Quote from: Utterly Confused on March 27, 2018, 11:31:36 PM

I would love to have this!! It sounds super awesome! I couldn't find anything under drawstring but I found periareolar surgeries instead (https://www.genderconfirmation.com/surgery/periareolar/) and (http://www.ftmtopsurgery.ca/ftm-procedures/periareolar-keyhole-incision/) and the results are amazing

Unfortunately for me, periareolar surgery is for men with smaller chests, usually a B cup and under, IIRC.  I'm a D cup, almost a DD.  It simply won't work for me.  Thus the reason why I'm willing to find someone that can do the Drawstring surgery.

Ryuichi

While getting scars with the double incision method is unavoidable, there are ways to minimise and/or hide them. If they get very stretched/big, you can get a revision to get the thinner again surgically. Scar creams, zink paste and simply time will fade them which makes them less obvious.

As for hiding them, building muscle to get bigger pecs is one way. If you can grow chest hair in that place that's another way. And getting a tattoo over them will also hide them. Even using make-up can be a temporary solution.

Pre-op I was somewhere between B-cup and C-cup, and was given the option to choose between double incision and peri-areolar. I chose the former cause I worried the latter method wouldn't give an as flat and even result as I wanted.

It was 4 years ago and by now my scars are about 0,3 inch (0,7 cm) at the widest, mostly white but a bit beige/tan here and there. They blend in kinda well with the rest of my skin, but the darker areas show a bit, cause my skintone is very light. I'm using a silicone based scar cream daily now in hopes of getting the scars white where they are not.