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DHT Blockers and Testosterone to Transition, Thoughts?

Started by Xerdazure, April 17, 2018, 11:27:36 AM

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Xerdazure

Hey, I'm an ENBY boy and I desperately don't want some of the changes of T but desperately want the other changes. From what I've heard the changes I don't want come from DHT and the changes I do come from T itself.

Changes I don't want:
- Balding/thinning hair
- Body/facial hair growth (at least not excessive, I can live with a little I guess)
- Bottom growth (again I can live with a little but I'm scared of the idea of such an intimate area changing drastically and possibly becoming uncomfortable ><)

Changes I want:
- Straighter body
- More masculine face
- More masculine voice

I basically want people to ID me as a cis-male but like, a pretty boy. I find that level of androgyny to be perfection. I'd prefer to remain slight as well but I can live with being a little bigger if it means the other stuff is fine. I mention that cause it seems a lot of FtMs get bigger faces, neck and shoulders from T, I'm not huge on that because I don't like being big but I'm fine with it if everything else is in place, and especially if it gets me ID'd as male. I guess my idea of perfection is basically your average anime boy... As pathetic as that might sound lol.

But anyway, I've seen some older threads discussing using DHT Blockers and T from day 1 to achieve this kind of controlled transition but at the time of the threads no one had any experience with this so it was all theoretical. I'm wondering if anyone has any experience with it now? Or what you guys think? I know if I just take T as is I'll feel just as horrible because my genetics have the bald bear gene rampant. I really wish I could inject myself with that intersex condition that makes you unable to absorb much DHT cause from what I've heard they seem to have all the right things that I'm looking for. Anyway... Yeah... I'd be happy to hear any tips or advice or experiences to do with this that you guys got to offer. I'm a little desperate cause... I really don't wanna live with this dysphoria anymore, I'm certain a lot of you guys understand.

And sorry if this is in the wrong place.
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Dani

The DHT blockers you ask are Finasteride or Duteraside. These are more accurately called alpha-5-reductase inhibitors. These will inhibit an enzyme that converts T into DHT, leaving you with very little DHT.

If you want to stay on the thin, androgynous side of other men, then very little T is needed. Your doctor can help you with that. Also, do not lift heavy weights or over eat. That will just put on the pounds. To stay thin, do a lot of aerobic exercise and eat low calorie and not very often.

Keep in mind that genetics has a very strong influence on how you develop.
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Dena

My thoughts on testosterone or estrogen is the same. You really can't predict what hormones will do to you as your response is entirely dependent on your genetics. I have already seen a case where a FTM attempted control the amount of voice drop with the intention of discontinuing testosterone when the correct pitch was reached. Unfortunately the voice broke so it switched between ranges much like than of a male going through puberty. The options became living with a broken voice or continuing testosterone until the voice stabilized.

Unless your willing to live with everything testosterone might do to you, it's best not to use it until your sure you can live with the consequences. 
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Kylo

In my experience the voice was the first thing to go, within 2-3 days of HRT it was changing, but it didn't reach convincing male range until 8 months of continuous testosterone. It's 100% male range at 1.5 years on HRT, never gets mistaken, but the body hair and the male hairline pattern was there at 2 months in with a vengeance, and the bottom growth was evident within 2 weeks. You can't cherry pick. 

You can of course shave all the hair you don't want (or even get it lasered off)  but there's not much you can do about the changes to your head hair if that's your genetic fate, aside from using things like Minoxidil. If all you want is an androgynous look, controlling your diet and exercise can help with that almost as much as T. But the voice... you can only get into the male range with T and it's probably not advisable to mess about with it mid-drop or you might end up with a voice stuck in teenage voice-break squeak mode (which is also confusing to people on the phone).
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Magnus

You may avoid most of the androgenic hair (Endo pretty much told me it's tantamount to being a Eunuch to be on DHT blockers and Testosterone, while still undergoing puberty [first or second, either which], if you want the full-nelson)... but the rest is a total wild-card. You absolutely cannot predict nor control what it is or is not going to do. And the DHT blockers neither block 100% nor will they continue to work indefinitely (tolerance/habituation).

Also, TIME more than dosage is what makes the difference in rate of changes. The same net result, to your genetic potential, will ultimately still be arrived at. Low-dose is not a solution to a different outcome/rate of change in the long-term. It is a short-term solution. To a point, you could cease outright to pause changes you're seeing and don't like (albeit not fully avoid). But I will repeat, that is a short-lived span of time.

The only way to completely avoid certain undesired effects is to stop or do not even start TRT.


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