So I am in the process of s-l-o-w-l-y building an alternate wardrobe, and I am really really really hung up on the issue of guy's pants!

How did you size yourself into guys' pants when you transitioned?

I can stuff myself into a 30/32, and while the waist actually fits (I'm M/L in ladies), how those same pants fit around my hips is a whole other kettle of fish.

I want to buy NICE clothes that I feel good in. But I might just have to begrudgingly buy some cheap transition pants until I see what my body does?? How things migrate?? I dunno.

Do I buy unrealistically waisted pants that fit my hips, and then get the waist tailored? O_o

I have also started slaughtering it at the gym. If there is a god, I will drop a couple of girl pants sizes over the summer, anyway.

A pregnant lady recently complimented me, "Damn girl, you've got hips for days." 

Wow, sorry about the "compliment." 

I too am pretty curvy, so I get it.  I can't afford a taylor, so what I ended up doing was hitting the thrift stores when I first started re-working my wardrobe.  That way, I could try on mens pants (and dress shirts) of all sizes and actually FIND my size and not worry about spending a ton of money on clothes.  Then I wrote my sizes down on my phone's notepad so I have them handy. 

Its worked, since literally last week I bought a pair of skinny pants from a online store, and they fit me perfectly.  So much so that my SO complimented me on how they made me look!

Good luck bro!

Ryuichi

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Ditch the women's chart/sizes if you're going to be wearing men's clothes from now on, you don't need it, just go on your own measurements. They don't convert perfect due to the differences in waist/hip ratio and the generally slightly longer length allowance for inside leg in mens' stuff anyway. Mens' sizes are better because they go on the actual inch or cm measurements instead of some arbitrary number or letter.

I am not very curvy but in my case I just had to deal with the slight issue with men's jeans before losing some of that extra woman weight/fat on the ass/legs, that was the difference in fit you notice. Given that men's casual wear like jeans and tees can cover that stuff anyway it's not that bad a wait, unless you have to get sorted for formal wear in which case it might be worth getting something tailored. If you want to have perfect fitting stuff the easiest way is to just get in there and try some stuff on at a store, then you'll have an idea what size you can wear comfortably for any online ordering in future. 

Try it on, if it fits well, buy it.


But seriously, it really depends more on where/how you wear them (hips or about your belly button) and their cut and fit too (every damn brand is different).

That said, guys DON'T generally wear their jeans clear up to their belly buttons. Those days are blessedly long behind us. They wear them lower down, more about the hips (or inbetween the two at most). The whole point is to have more room about the crotch, not to be pulled up snug like women's. Women's, "low cut/seat" excepted, almost always ride high up. Look at some catalog modelling of men's and women's (from the hind-end in particular, not as noticeable from the front-end) and you'll see what I mean.

So, you'd want to find them that better fit more about your hips than your waist and wear them more about there than your waist/belly button.

Levi is still king, though. But find your general good fit in a cheaper brand first to have a basis to go on. And no man needs more than two fine pairs of jeans. And one or two cheap ones for gritty works/weekend-warrioring.

I'd have to suggest checking out Rustler ("regular", "straight leg" etc). Wranglers are... really, really "relaxed" (even their supposed "regular") and don't look too good (but they're not supposed to. They're "work/play" jeans). I'm talking about ass-sag/pancake cheeks here, big time.

OH! And, of course, belts are pretty much mandatory. Even more when your arse gets smaller and you're riding your jeans lower. And guys jeans are overall less "clingy" than women's to begin with. Trust me. Belts are a must.



Fancier pants, as slacks, are a different kettle of fish and I don't wear them so have nothing to add there lol.

Look through as many brands of mens pants as you can. Before I started my transition I had a small amount of hips and waist. I discovered that some mens pants fit me well and other had tons of fabric left over in the waist. I suspect this is because the really straight cut pants are intended for men with a gut who need a little more around the waist. The more tapered cut fit the skin an bones type body better.

Great advice, everyone, thank you.

I can't wait to have a sick belt collection, but I feel like that's a special adventure on its own... and... if I let my excitement get the best of me... I'll end up with eight hundred belts and no pants. That might be cool for my home alone time, but my objective is to start sneaking out into the world.

I was experimenting with my SO's clothes (we are almost the same height/weight). I should totally go Macklemore at the thrift shop.

I was reading all sorts of stuff about how both too tight and too baggy are bad are bad choices for FtMs who want to conceal curves.

Or I could just wear sweatpants halfway down my butt. And maybe roll one leg up to my knee. Or not.

I have to gain more experience points with regular pants before I can level up to steampunk pants.

it really does depend on the kind of pants you want and where you buy them. i go to old navy for all my clothes because the selection is diverse enough for when i was bigger and now the size i am now. i don't really have a curvy body anymore, but i still have thicccc thighs. even before i was on T, i still used to go to old navy. i take about a 36 waist, usually that fits me across the board in pants from old navy, no matter if it's jeans, khakis, chinos, what ever. i also used to get like "straight" fit because it was a bit more baggy for any extra room i needed when i was bigger/curvier. however, i ended up getting a pair of ultimate slim and love them because they get smaller at the bottom so i don't have to roll up my pants (short people problems) but they hug my body better so i don't look like i'm "trying" to be an adult and wear big boy clothes. i definitely wouldn't have worn those when i was curvier though. anything "straight" or "broken in" or "built in flex" usually gives a lot of room for movement while still being decent fitting as long as you get the right size. it won't hug your body as much and will help with your curves from my experience. that's why trying on things is the best option. as long as you wear pants at your waist, they generally hide curves. it's also about the shirts you wear because if you wear something too tight, you'll see curves.

Its going to be an adventure. I have a short leg and when my waist was way larger nothing but baggy fit. It's also a family trait that pants just don't fit the men in my family very well. Watch other guys and you may notice that men are not that big on the fitted look. Loose and casual is typical. Coming from the female side you have styling you have lived with all your life and the changes will take time. With me coming from the male side I am trying to learn how to fit clothes to a new body and screw up often. But I did get my first pair of pencil jeans, heck two months ago I didn't know they existed and I love them.
Give it time as your body adjust and by all means shop bargain shops until you learn what works. Saves a lot of money

I've tried men's pants a few times over the years of my transition (pre-t, months on t, years on t) but always had the same issue as you. I'm at a healthy weight for my height now, but need a waist size of 34 inch of men's pants to even get into them, and then they have a huge gap at my tiny waist that is very obvious. And then also their "straight cut" jeans fit very tight around my butt but are looser than a tent on the rest of my legs. Also trying to even find pants in waist size 34 with leg length of 28 is a conundrum.

So actually I stopped trying to wear men's pants. I wear women's pants now. Simple, low waist, straight cut, plain black pants. They fit my body and just look like any kind of pants. They don't look womanly and whenever I've told people that they're actually "women's pants" all they've said is "no way".

I know it can be dysphoria inducing to wear the clothes of the wrong gender when transitioning, but sometimes that's the best bet. I can wear men's shirts, jackets, underwear, gloves, hats, etc. But have to stick to wearing women's pants, shoes, socks, waistcoats, etc. cause of my body shape and how the different garments are meant to fit.

I only have two belts, actually. One of them is a simple wide one in black leather with a silver-metallic buckle. It's super long with many holes in it, so I can wear it whatever weight I'm at. That's great for me who can't maintain my weight to save my life. The other belt is similar but studded, so that's more "metal guy" style, I guess.

My hips never did slim down enough on just T, but then I never did work out much either, and had a bad starting point. I did learn how to dress to hide them though. I've been on T for 5+ years now, and have no issue passing.