Hi all,

I can feel a ring-like structure, that I believe is granulation tissue, inside my vaginal canal. About an inch deep. Is this normal? The surgeon's assistant said the picutre I sent didn't look like gran tissue, but it's white and rough so...yeah. Can anyone shed any light on this? Did you have anything similar? Is there a ring-like thingy inside your vag canal?

Granulation tissue should be pink. Being white and having "structure" sounds like scar tissue.

Did you have a straight penile inversion, or did they use scrotal tissue?
If the later,  the ring could possibly be where they joined the penile skin to the scrotal tissue, but I'm only guessing...

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Quote from: Devlyn on June 06, 2018, 02:18:21 PM
Granulation tissue should be pink. Being white and having "structure" sounds like scar tissue.

Then, it's prolly scar tissue. Can it be fixed?

Quote from: Megan. on June 06, 2018, 02:25:51 PM
Did you have a straight penile inversion, or did they use scrotal tissue?
If the later,  the ring could possibly be where they joined the penile skin to the scrotal tissue, but I'm only guessing...

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They used scrotal tissue but I don't think the graft would attach this far forward. It's like an inch past the entrance.

Quote from: Spunky Brewster on June 06, 2018, 03:16:19 PM
Then, it's prolly scar tissue. Can it be fixed?

That's something for the doctor to evaluate.

Hugs, Devlyn

Spunky, maybe you can define "structure" a little better. A bit more than an inch deep (that is going from the introitus) I have what feels like a second muscle ring, it's quite tight for sex play and relaxes only when I'm really aroused. No matter how much girth I take in, it remains tighter than deeper or more shallow. It's been there as long as I've been essentially healed and it's actually quite sensate.

I can't speak to color, there are, however a lot of reasons tissue can be white, including temporary loss of blood perfusion due to pressure.

Spunky
It kind of sounds like scar tissue like what I have experienced. Mine is around the opening and is clearish white. I had steroid shots which has helped but not eliminated it. One option for me is surgical revision. I would talk to the doctor. They might have you do hydrocortisone cream if it is scar tissue. In my case that didn't help. The shots worked better.
Moni

Quote from: SadieBlake on June 06, 2018, 05:14:17 PM
Spunky, maybe you can define "structure" a little better. A bit more than an inch deep (that is going from the introitus) I have what feels like a second muscle ring, it's quite tight for sex play and relaxes only when I'm really aroused. No matter how much girth I take in, it remains tighter than deeper or more shallow. It's been there as long as I've been essentially healed and it's actually quite sensate.

I can't speak to color, there are, however a lot of reasons tissue can be white, including temporary loss of blood perfusion due to pressure.

YES! it's like a muscle ring. It's maybe a mm, or the size of the girth of a bobby pin, in width, but encircles my vaginal canal about an inch, give or take, from the introitus. I wouldn't say that the ring is sensate, but my vagina is super sensate. Sometimes when my BF touches my vagina (I love saying that!), I giggle, squirm, and get aroused. For me, arousal almost feels like getting hard, but that's a poor description. It's hard to reference. It feels great though and when he eats me out, I moan and am in the moment.

When I had sex with a woman with my former penis, which was tiny, like 4 inches erect and smaller in width than the purple dilator, I was never in the moment. I had to pretend she was a man and I was a woman and I actually had a vagina and not a penis. I'm sure most post-op women did this and engaged in disassociated sex. If I couldn't think of having sex with a man and having a vagina, sex was impossible and I could not get hard, unless I thought about sexy men, which I tried not to in general. For whatever reason, I convinced myself I wasn't attracted to men, when I had to suppress instincts and thoughts about kissing and making out with my guy friends.

Anyhoo, I think the structure hurts my ability to have sex. My BF has been super patient. We've had sex twice. Though we have anal intercourse lots and I put things other than money in my mouth lol still, I want to but am still nervous and this ring makes me worry.

I wish I could draw a picture. Think of a canal which is smooth but feels fine, but an inch after the introitous, there is a ring. Two actually. One is smaller and doesn't encircle the whole canal. Dilating isn't hard with the purple one, I haven't lost depth, but I need to use the purple one before I can use the blue one. I could use the blue one, but it would take five minutes to go four inches. With the purple, I can get to 4 inches within 10 seconds. I can insert it to 4.5 to 5 inches within a few mins.

Still, I think if it weren't the ring, sex would be easy.

Quote from: HappyMoni on June 06, 2018, 09:12:28 PM
Spunky
It kind of sounds like scar tissue like what I have experienced. Mine is around the opening and is clearish white. I had steroid shots which has helped but not eliminated it. One option for me is surgical revision. I would talk to the doctor. They might have you do hydrocortisone cream if it is scar tissue. In my case that didn't help. The shots worked better.
Moni

How bad was it? Did it hurt? How did affect dilating? If you prefer men, were you able to have sex. I could have sex, but I would need to dilate for 15 minutes beforehand. I haven't lost depth. Thanks in advance!

Spunky, this is what I do, I encourage you to try it. First, every time I dilate, I work to make it sexually pleasing. This helps the muscle, both the PC muscle and the ones I clearly have deeper to relax and open. I also use a dildo after, to keep everything used to accommodating something that has less taper at the tip. I think you should slowly work to green and maybe also suitable toys.

Next, and I think this matters more, I masturbate a couple of times a week and I don't always do that with large toys but definitely often. This has helped that part of my vagina accept penis shaped things.

Hi,

I had the ring and I had graft that died on the bottom of the canal. Both were removed surgically. I no longer have the scar tissue and my vaginal canal is smooth.

Prior to the scar tissue being removed dilation was painful. Every time I dilated it was painful. Now there is no pain. There is a feeling of fullness but no pain.

I have yet to have sex.

Quote from: Rachel on June 10, 2018, 07:17:37 PM
Hi,

I had the ring and I had graft that died on the bottom of the canal. Both were removed surgically. I no longer have the scar tissue and my vaginal canal is smooth.

Prior to the scar tissue being removed dilation was painful. Every time I dilated it was painful. Now there is no pain. There is a feeling of fullness but no pain.

I have yet to have sex.

Hm dilation isn't exactly comfortable for me... its always been a bit of an annoyance / somewhat discomfortable to downright painful (if I try using bigger ones).  I can actually use a speculum to widen it and its not too bad.. so I've been doing that lately to 'dilate'.  For me the sensation of pleasure always was in the labia / clitoris area... ironically pre op too lol.  Don't ask me to explain it its very complicated.

Anyways yaaaa..if you don't have pain, be very grateful

Quote from: Spunky Brewster on June 07, 2018, 12:06:33 PM
How bad was it? Did it hurt? How did affect dilating? If you prefer men, were you able to have sex. I could have sex, but I would need to dilate for 15 minutes beforehand. I haven't lost depth. Thanks in advance!

Spunky, sorry I was out of town. The scar tissue does effect elasticity and thus dilation. It makes it tighter although I am still able to work up to orange. It does take a period of time to get up to full dilation width and depth. I have not had a male partner.

Well I talked to my PCP and she said it's not only normal, but a good thing. Today I had my first real orgasm. It wasn't just arousal but release. I'm 10 months post op. I have been slacking on dilation but on purpose so I see how it feels after a couple days of not doing it. I mean I'm almost at a year. I restated , lost no depth, and other than some initial tightness, it reached 5 inches fast, like in seconds

Such wonderful news Ms Spunky! I've been thinking of you and wondering where you landed in this, so glad to hear it was a landing with an O as well as confirmation that your vagina is fine :-)