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Crossing your legs, what am I doing wrong?

Started by generalchaos34, June 18, 2018, 04:56:19 PM

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ErinWDK

Flexibility is a key issue.  HRT will help that.  But weight (overweight) can also be a big issue.  My weight goes up and down (sort of an indicator of how well I am doing with the idea of transition -- weight down = better transition).  At low weight I can cross my legs.  At higher weight no.  I see guys who are skinny who can cross their legs...  Talk about frustrating; sitting in a room with men and women and I am the only one not crossing my legs (and wanting to be able to).

Stretching exercises is an area I have to look at.
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Jessica

I find crossing my right leg over my left leg far more comfortable than the opposite.  Don't know why.
Hugs and smiles, Jessica

"If you go out looking for friends, you are going to find they are very scarce.  If you go out to be a friend, you'll find them everywhere."


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Allsorts

Hope you don't mind me adding my 2cents? AFAB here (and also did a fair bit of ballet)

I always found crossing one side easier than crossing the other side. I have to assume it's partly muscle tightness on that side or relative muscle strength in holding the position.
I also found it much more taxing to cross my legs and hold the position when I was more overweight. It does make a difference for me.

I can't speak much for the specifics of flexibility require for crossing your legs in a sitting position, not something I've looked into!
But in general, basic flexibility is more about muscle relaxation than about ligament laxity (unless you are looking for ballet-style hyperextension) Most people should be able to achieve the splits, but it's best done by muscle release and learning which bits tighten up in you and need work. From head to toe! Spasms and tightness anywhere down the chain can pinch nerves (so they cannot slide when you stretch) and prevent flexibility.

Hips I'm not so sure about. I know that there are definite limitations in turn-out due to bone structure of the joint. Not sure that turn out is relevant to leg-crossing though. As was said, there are skeletal differences between men and women, the relevant one likely being the Q angle of hips. Women tend to have a bigger Q angle than men so the thighs point more across/in to begin with.

Hormones do affect ligament laxity. I have hypermobility syndrome/EDS and I can tell when my period is due because of the increase instability, subluxes and general chaos and pain! Certain female hormones make the ligaments more stretchy (partly why pregnant women sometimes use pelvic supports because the ligaments loosen for childbirth and pelvis kind of pulls apart).

But be careful what you wish for! It's better to become more flexible through muscle release than ligament stretching - lax ligaments lead to instability, dislocations, sprains and a host of other problems.

Off the top of my head I'd imagine that the best muscles to stretch for crossing your legs will be IT-band related, abductors and piriformis area (though lots of little bits around there than can tighten up, tennis ball releases can help you find them) Maybe some strengthening of the inner thigh/adductors.

Also finding the precise position that is most comfortable for you. How high up the femur you try to start to cross, how you angle the underneath leg and shin. or cheating a bit by resting the back of the top knee over the lower one.

FWIW I think a lot of cis-women feel uncomfortable after a while, and need to shift position.
Women didn't start sitting with crossed legs because it was comfortable or natural, but because it was more "seemly".

Hope you find something that works to achieve what you want! :-)
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MsAnnaLynn

I wasn't expecting this, but have a personal experience with it. Since starting HRT and even before that when I began transitioning in my mind, I started losing weight and exercising with a different type of goal. I could never get the feminine looking crossing my legs at the knee thing before and just out of curiosity tried it, and by golly it was pretty comfortable, right over left a little more than left over right. Now if I could just get a little more open space at the very top of my legs it would be perfect.
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Jin

It is all about balancing and past posture. Like years of sitting with knees wide apart. (Oh the horror!) Try getting into some Pilates courses and develop your muscles/tendons equally. My coach gave me some exercises that helped with this very problem.
I yam what I yam, and that's all what I yam.
-- Popeye

A wise person can learn more from fools than a fool can learn from a wise person.
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ErinAscending

Might just be the way you're built specifically.  I sit with my legs crossed left over right about 70% of the time and then switch.  It always seems to grow more uncomfortable more quickly with right over left so I switch back faster.  When I first started sitting that way it was rather sore for the first day but then it just seemed natural.

And (incidentally) I know I use it as a way to signal myself that I about as feminine as feminine can get but I recently found out my dad does it too.  And he's an alpha male backwoods country boy from just off the bayou in NE Louisiana...  Go figure.  I couldn't stop staring.  It kinda freaked me out.   ???
Experience is simply the name we give our mistakes. - Oscar Wilde
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Lucca

Just a thought... last year I strained a muscle in my leg and it didn't seem like it did much damage right when it happened, but for months afterward, it hurt to position my leg in a certain way, while my other leg was fine in the same position. It got better, but it took half a year or more. So, if one of your legs is sore in a position and the other isn't in the same position, maybe you pulled a muscle at some point and didn't realize it until now?
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Jill E

My partner is cis and she doesn't find crossing her legs comfortable either, whereas I do. She does however cross her legs like is see a lot of guys doing, with her ankle on top of her knee. It really just comes down to whatever is comfortable. You do you (:


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MissyMay2.0

I've been told that leg crossing is actually bad for circulation, which is something to consider if you are on HRT, so even though I can easily cross my legs, I don't do it for long periods of time, and I alternate between crossing my legs and crossing my ankles. 
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Devlyn

I can cross my center leg over either of my other ones.  >:-)
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MissyMay2.0

Quote from: Devlyn on June 20, 2018, 04:56:26 PM
I can cross my center leg over either of my other ones.  >:-)
If the tripod fits...😉😀
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Virginia

Just finished my daily yoga practice when I saw this post:
https://imgur.com/a/oRTSKJZ




My wife hates when I double cross my legs because she thinks it looks effeminate. Shrug it's always been comfortable to me. My Mother explained to her I have done it since I was a boy.
~VA (pronounced Vee- Aye, the abbreviation for the State of Virginia where I live)
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Devlyn

My Carnac is on the fritz, I better get it to the shop.  :laugh:

Quote from: Devlyn on June 18, 2018, 05:42:17 PM
<holding envelope to forehead> 

Eleven.....how many posts before someone posts a picture of their legs double crossed.  ;D


Reply #31 on: Today at 06:16:03 pm

Just finished my daily yoga practice when I saw this post:

https://imgur.com/a/oRTSKJZ


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ErinAscending

Quote from: Devlyn on June 20, 2018, 05:55:48 PM
My Carnac is on the fritz, I better get it to the shop.  :laugh:


Reply #31 on: Today at 06:16:03 pm

Just finished my daily yoga practice when I saw this post:

https://imgur.com/a/oRTSKJZ

Gotta admit.  That's impressive.

Need to work on my flexibility :laugh:
Experience is simply the name we give our mistakes. - Oscar Wilde
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Lyric

After decades of leg crossing I basically stopped and don't regret it. I began to have soreness in one hip and suspected it might lead to an eventual need for hip replacement surgery, as my mother had. After a few years of not leg crossing and also avoiding single-leg standing I have no hip soreness to speak of. I also used to have back soreness all the time and basically don't anymore. I think part of that is also due eliminating low chair sitting as well. When at a computer, as I am right now, I either stand or sit on a high stool.

So, consider not crossing you legs at all. There are some very ladylike ways to sit without crossing your legs.
"Your time is limited, so don't waste it living someone else's life." - Steve Jobs
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