Is it possible for a cis man to want to transition ?

I zeroed in on this specific part of my earlier thread. Maybe it was the most important question.

Other ways to ask that question:
- If you want to transition, does that mean you can't possibly be cis ?

- Do cis people ever want to transition ?

- Are cis men ever not happy to have a penis ?

Cisgender or cissexual (often abbreviated to simply cis) describes related types of gender identity perceptions, where individuals' experiences of their own gender agree with the sex they were assigned at birth.
Transgender definition is - of, relating to, or being a person whose gender identity differs from the sex the person had or was identified as having at birth; especially : of, relating to, or being a person whose gender identity is opposite the sex the person had or was identified as having at birth.

Let that sink in....

One additional thing. You can be happy with your birth gender and unhappy at the same time. This is the world of the non binary where you have varying amounts of both genders. Unfortunately it's very confusing and often more difficult to resolve than being transsexual. Some non binary are more comfortable being the opposite gender and may do a partial or full transition. Others are more comfortable staying closer to their birth gender. This is where a gender therapist can prove useful by asking the questions needed to fully explore the options.

Hello MegaConfused
First off I'll try to address the question you use starting this thread.

Is yes but only under the idea of,
Anything that possibly could happen  might happen. But this is on the extreme Edge.  I have learned a lot on a thread that l started about trans trenders.  but from what I gathered they kind of fake transitioning for a wide array of what they want to accomplish. And usually they do this for bad things but a very few of them want to latch on due to the many true TG,s coming out,  and of course Kaitlyn Jenner definitely increased media coverage a lot.  and these few fakers that I mentioned want to latch on to the movement. But this is fake transition but they are entitled to do anything they want to themselves and should not be discriminated against because they are human to.

But in reality my answer would be, NO
when your identity matches your physical sexuality harmoniously there would be no need and they wouldn't even think of this.

And to the rest of your questions
CIS people are comfortable in their own skin and I think they would absolutely hate the idea of changing,
and would fight it ferociously.
And your last question would be, NO they are not unhappy to have a penis because their genitalia matches their gender identity.
   I hope that that some of this might of help out a little dear.

And thank you so much Dena  for your assessment that I learned a little from. I really need to understand the other forms of gender because some of these members popped up on some of my stuff and not understanding their situation it's pretty hard to respond appropriately to some of our members But this is something I will definitely research more.

MegaConfused I hope that you find all the answers to your questions, but at least you're at one of the best place on the planet to do this. But I think seeing a good gender therapist would answer your questions.

Best wishes for your future, love Tatiana

From my experiences no one judges, they might have concerning questions but thats not the same as judging. That being said I have a friend who was recently diagnosed with prostate cancer, doing quite well right now, but realized that they where non-binary (always had that feeling but now more so). They go between feeling feminine and masculine, it does sound like that is more your level.

I know we might be throwing a lot at you but just take it one step at a time, we only mean to help (and thank you for being honest) I cant say many cis dont come here and if more did we'd help them too, information is what will save or destroy this world, we hope to help with honest information lol

Quote from: MegaConfused on July 14, 2018, 09:59:39 PM
Is it possible for a cis man to want to transition ?

I zeroed in on this specific part of my earlier thread. Maybe it was the most important question.

Other ways to ask that question:
- If you want to transition, does that mean you can't possibly be cis ?

- Do cis people ever want to transition ?

- Are cis men ever not happy to have a penis ?

There are more kinds of people in the world than there are categories to describe them, and that's fine.   

Do cis people ever want to transition?  It depends on what you mean by transition.  There are certainly cis men who prefer to present and dress as females, e.g. the artist Grayson Perry.

Are cis men ever not happy to have a penis?  Certainly.  There are cis men who have no desire to be female but deliberately have their testicles and/or penises removed.  Although I would prefer proper SRS, I did investigate less conventional ways of having my physical masculinity removed and discovered an underworld of eunuchs and nullos (men, ususally cis, who have had their penises and scrotums removed).  Some have their penises removed but decide to keep their testicles.  Like I said, there are a lot of different kinds of people.

Quote from: MegaConfused on July 14, 2018, 09:59:39 PM
- If you want to transition, does that mean you can't possibly be cis ?

Pretty much, yes.

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- Do cis people ever want to transition ?

I would say no.  If they did, they wouldn't be cis.

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- Are cis men ever not happy to have a penis ?

Maybe in rare cases.

There are trans people who went for years or even decades believing themselves to be cis.  That probably applies to more than half the people on this forum.  Just because it takes time to figure it all out doesn't mean that you were cis before.  Being trans is something you are born with.

I was born trans, and I have been trans all my life.  But, up until I was 61, I thought I was cis.  Okay, I wondered now and then, but I didn't really know I was trans before that.

Ok, I haven't quite figured out how to quote specific sections of a post instead of quoting the entir post, so here goes.

Kathy, your post describes me almost perfectly.  Up until a few months ago I believed myself to be cis.  I wondered now and then myself, but I was sure that I was only a cross dresser who struggled to stop.  Throughout my life, deep down inside, I secretly longed to transition.  The only thing was I didn't know what transitioning was nor did I know what transgender meant, or that I was trans.  Looking back now it's obvious that I've been trans my entire life.  I just didn't know it.

I've always been trans in hindsight. I knew something was different. I assumed I was just bisexual. But after 30 years of denial it became very clear I am not, and never have been male. Having transitioned as far I have I feel far more content in almost every part of my life and there is no way I'd ever go back.

If a man was truly CIS then he wouldn't even consider transitioning.

Quote from: krobinson103 on July 15, 2018, 05:01:10 PM
If a man was truly CIS then he wouldn't even consider transitioning.

I believe this is absolutely right.  Only transgender people would even think about transitioning.


Danielle

Cis men do not want to transition.

Not all trans hate their genitals. I did and they are gone, or reconfigured.

Not all trans always feel one way, many do but not all.

Confusion is normal when you come to terms with who you are if you are trans.

A good gender therapist can help you sort out who you are and what to do about it.

The simple answer is "No" - a Cisman would find transition peculiar as he would never think of it as serious or think of gender at all.

We are born either cis or trans (the latter includes non binary).

We may accept we are trans at any age from 4 to 84 and if we do not accept till well into adulthood, when we do we usually then understand more with hindsight as previous signs had been suppressed.

As for me, I knew at 4 that I wished to have been born a girl but waited till 62 to take action. As for my genitalia - well yes I hate them but in fact my hatred of genitalia is in second place - a close second place - to my hatred of my body hair.

I wish you well.

Hugs

Pamela

The definition of cis in this context is someone who is "on the side of" their birth gender, i.e. identifies with it and is not at odds with it. For a cis person to also be a transsexual would be a contradiction-in-terms.

Quote from: MegaConfused on July 14, 2018, 09:59:39 PM
Is it possible for a cis man to want to transition ?

I zeroed in on this specific part of my earlier thread. Maybe it was the most important question.

Other ways to ask that question:
- If you want to transition, does that mean you can't possibly be cis ?

- Do cis people ever want to transition ?

- Are cis men ever not happy to have a penis ?

If you currently identify as a cis male but hate your penis, I would encourage you to speak to a gender therapist. You may find after some probing that you identify as non-binary. Other things that could cause you to feel this way are blocked childhood trauma, schizophrenia, or Body Integrity Identity Disorder. This is not a comprehensive list, but it gives you an idea.

You only need to go to a male rape survivor forum to see there are many cisgender men who experience gender confusion, sexual confusion, a need to dress as women, and/or dysphoria about their genitals.

I am cisgender male, a survivor of childhood sexual and psychological abuse who developed Dissociative Identity/Multiple Personality Disorder. One of the 6 alters in my System is a girl. Her need to express herself was so strong I was misdiagnosed with Gender Dysphoria and  encouraged to transition to living as a woman until the time/memory loss and flashbacks and night terrors began, and I was referred for truama recovery therapy.

Generally I would say no. Cisgender people it seems do not question their gender. If they do it's like a momentary thought and never considered again. This is very different than transgender people who very often have a lifetime of thinking about it and not in a positive experiencial way.

A couple of nonbinary people I know describe it different however. They say they feel more comfortable one way or the other but do talk as though they had the huge negative reaction to their birth sex hormones. I think there is such a wide range of people's experience that between the binaries is difficult to express. IDK. Kind of how it's difficult for a trans person to explain what it feels like to cis person, the experience of some non binary people is so different than binary people.