It would be interesting   to hear about your experiences😊

It really started to happen regularly after 6 months, especially after my facial hair was no more visible. I think this had the biggest trigger effect on people.


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I was only on HRT for three months before I went full-time, and I didn't have any male-fail experiences in that time.  I did have a fun experience of being gendered correctly the very first time I went out in public after beginning full-time.

A couple of weeks prior, I had dropped off a men's ring that I wanted turned into a pendant at a jeweler.  The ring was a graduation present from my mother and had sentimental value, as well as having a nice stone, but it was not going to be any use to me as a ring.  On my very first outing in town as the new me, I stopped in at the jeweler to pick up the pendant.  I handed over the claim check, and the clerk got the pendant from the back.  Then she looked at the name on the work order and said, "Oh, he will have to come in to sign for it himself."

I had just assumed that, since she was the same lady I had given it to when I brought it in, she would recognize me.  Apparently not.  I had to do some 'splaining, but I did it with a big smile on my face.

Half an hour later, my wife and I brought our dog to the vet for a checkup.  The vet said she thought I was my sister at first.

It was a very affirming way to start!

I was only on HRT for 6 months when I finally came out at work (the last place). I went full time about two weeks later. I was asked a few times about growing my hair out. But never any male fail.

Approx 6 months ish. Went to the bank teller to withdraw some cash. She asked where's the guy who supposedly own the account since the one standing in front of her is not a guy lol. 2nd time, went to return some pants at costco and was told only members can return (they saw the old pic on my membership card), where is he? The csr said. Lol... I had to show them my ID which fortunately have the gender corrected (I didn't change my name btw since it work both ways)
3rd time, was walking my new friend to the hotel and was chatting with her other friend and I never mentioned anything and just chat the way I normally talk. Later on she was referring to me as she even without being asked to. I'll attach a photo from that night.

Ps. I wasn't even presenting feminine in all occasions and was still wearing my previous attire.

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About four months in for me.  My girlfriend and I were on vacation in Ireland and in shops and pubs I got ma'am a bunch.  I was still presenting male at that point.

Hmmm...  I wish I could add, but I haven't really had male fail.  🙈🙊🙉  I imagine it'll come in due time.  However, I love this thread and I love hearing the stories. Please keep them coming!  ❤️

I don't recall when it was after I started HRT because I had been "mis-gendered" for years.  My first recollection is when I was 17.  I did have fairly long hair so maybe that helped.  Its happened ever since from time to time.  My wife would roll her eyes when I was Ma'amed.  This was way before I came out.   
Judi

Quote from: JudiBlueEyes on August 08, 2018, 11:26:27 AM
I had been "mis-gendered" for years.  My first recollection is when I was 17.  I did have fairly long hair so maybe that helped.  Its happened ever since from time to time.  My wife would roll her eyes when I was Ma'amed.  This was way before I came out.   
Judi

Same for me. I got misgendered as a woman because of my long hair way before HRT.

Likewise, it's also happened to me many times over the years, simply for having long hair. (You'd think rock'n'roll never happened to some people. lol) I'm nowhere near starting HRT, but feel confident I'd be viewed as a woman if dressed appropriately. Some of the best comments are "Let that lady past," or simply being wolf-whistled by young guys. I take it as it comes, with a sense of humour.

Always. It was rare to be gendered as male, and I never had long hair because I hate it. It was embarrassing actually, like front of your family or at passport control with a queue behind you, etc.

I've certainly never appreciated being whistled at or have passing comments. I especially didn't appreciate the car driver that stopped when I was 12, tried to pay me to get in, and then crawled along the kerb. I don't think that's a privilege, or flattering, but it's probably my first memory of being sexualized and was then the most frightening thing that had happened to me sexually. I don't care what gender he thought I was. It's not an angle I ever considered it from.

I really noticed a significant difference about a couple of weeks after I started HRT.
I had been living full time as a woman for about 6 months at that point.  I got sirred and stared at a lot during those six months but I didn't even care anymore. My main reason for deciding to transition was just that I didn't want to live a lie anymore.   But I also got ma'amed a lot too.  But after a couple of weeks of HRT all of a sudden I started getting ma'amed like crazee.  Yes. HRT can work THAT fast!  Then after I had my FFS I pretty much quit getting misgendered entirely. Now living and working it's all ma'am all the time.  Even when I don't expect it the ma'ams come at me and I'm thinking, 'Oh yeah, I'm a lady now.'  I can be wearing no makeup, jeans and a t-shirt and it's "ma'am" this and "ma'am" that.  But it never gets old and always feels terrific whenever it happens.

The first time I remember male fail as an adult (happened a lot as a child) was in Korea about 8 years ago when I'd grown my hair long and was quite slender at the time. Waiting at a bus stop and people kept refering me (from the back) as She. Then a few years later cycling I dropped even more weight and even me looking at the a family photo had to say I looked odd for a male indeed.

I think the most striking time I remember first was about 2 months into HRT co workers would always remark on how jealous they were of my figure (I was wearing woman's skinny jeans a lot then) and how feminine I looked. I didn't see it then. About three months in I was walking up the hill to the office at work and caught my reflection in a window and went ah - theres a girl. Then I went what? But that's me! About that same time using my old work ID to get stuff for work people looked at me funny. So I changed all my ID then and there new passport, DL etc to reflect what I actually look like and with female on them.

Since then (that was about 6 months ago) I just don't look like man. Been to a pool in a swimsuit, bra shopping, clothes shopping I get gendered female 95% of the time unless computer records say something else (fixed most) then people just look confused.

I love that there are so many experienceing male fail. I hate that I am not one of them. Thanks to the absurd uniform regulations at my job, 13 months into my transition I still have short hair, and a beard because my electrolysis seems to be taking forever but I have to choose between either keeping it shaved and not being able to have electrolysis or keeping it grown out.

I've had long hair for a few years, and I occasionally got an initial miss/ma'am before HRT, but it was always followed with a 'sorry, sir, it's the hair' after getting a better look at my face or talking a bit.

By around 2-3 weeks on HRT, I started getting fewer gendered forms of address in general.

At around the 2 month mark, I started having occasional times where I was being gendered female and having it stick for a whole conversation, despite having the same hair style, baggy male clothes, and a male-ish voice (mine was never especially deep, especially for my size).

I'm at just over 3 months now, and so far that's only happened with strangers - no one that I see regularly or that knows my name has said anything.

About 18 months though I done a lot of electrolysis & had dyed red shoulder length hair. I was having a drink in a working man's club with a friend & won a mixed grill in the raffle. I heard someone ask who won the raffle & a voice said " Big lass , long red hair sat by the door", took me a minute to relise it was me he was talking about

Hello everyone

There is a similar post on HRT Board concerning necessity to hide physical effects of HRT till ready to come out.

I have been on HRT 6 months and physical changes have started and although unfortunately no malefail yet, I think that could happen in 2 months time meaning 8 months in total.

However as was mentioned on the other thread, other people may suspect before HRT but make no comment.

Hugs

Pamela

Somewhere past a year in.  Wife took me to her nail parlor to get my eyebrows waxed, but insisted I go in boy mode.  I wore a baggy men's T shirt over women's straight leg jeans, carried a man bag, hair pulled back in a low pony tail, no make up.

Woman at desk talks to my wife, looks at me, and says, "and what will she be having?"

Best.  Fail.  Ever.

Hugs, Carly

Very early into HRT.. but the following must be taken into account

I went full time the same day as I started HRT, it made sense at the time.
I had my electrolysis done on my face and chest before HRT, so minimal facial hair
I had grown my hair, during my pre-hrt days as I hated wearing wigs.
My ears were already pierced, actually got my second set of holes pierced shortly after starting hrt.

In the beginning to hide my lack of curves and breasts, i wore very baggy unisex outfits, so people often had to look twice.. and I often wore a bit of makeup which pushed me to the girl category. Also what helped me into girl category was wearing nail polish and long nails..

Then as my breasts and curves developed, the outfits become more and more girly. Today I love the very girly outfits..

About 1 1/2 years into HRT. I began transitioning late in life but have made up for it!

I was shopping in a large Department Store in NYC (Century 21) and was in the women's  clothing section. I needed to pee and I saw a store clerk so I asked her "excuse me, where is the nearest restroom?". I left out "women's" and wasn't sure to use "men's" since I wasn't sure how passable I was as a gal.  She pointed to the women's restroom and I immediately froze at the thought that I would be using a public women's restroom for the first time. Before I could make an excuse like, "ok, I'll use it later"....the clerk responded, "here honey, why don't you give me the items you have and I'll hold on to them while you use the restroom."

At this point, there was no turning back. It felt like an out-of-body experience as I made my way to the restroom. I mentally prepared myself for screams of "it's a man....call the manager". So avoided all eye contact as I entered the bathroom. Out of my peripheral vision I saw 2 women talking by the sink washing their hands. I saw an empty stall (the one next to it was being used). I literally ran to get inside the stall as I was still expecting a negative reaction. I, of course made sure to squat to pee. I was hoping for the women to be done so I can wash my hands in the sink but they were still there and gabbing (tourists), so I summoned courage to go to the sink. I avoid all eye contact and much to my surprise, no one noticed or said anything.

I thought this was pure chance but a few weeks later, I was shopping in a Whole Foods and needed to use the restroom. There was a store clerk adjusting her apron. The men's room was on the left and the women's on the right. I made a beeline for the men's restroom. Before I could open the door, the store clerk said, "no it's this door" and giggled, pointing to the women's bathroom. Ever since those experiences, I use a women's public restroom all the time - airports, restaurants, cafes, public spaces, etc.

Although I begin transitioning late, it does help that I am 5'4".