First....we all know there are effects..but that's not entirely what I am going to ask here.

I want to hear from people who have taken one type of estrogen for their HRT verses people who have taken other types of estrogen.

My thoughts were formulated when I posted that this time (my second series of HRT) I am not having the mind-change more to female and very emotional with Progynova that I experienced with Premarin.

Premarin made me very emotional...I was taking a prescribed dosage, but I think Premarin is more mind-altering that Progynova.

Progynova isn't anywhere near as mind altering as the former. I am not jagging about in near tears at sensitive movies or poems or seeing sick puppies (etc) like I did with the first E of choice.

Any thoughts?

I am not really interested in the glee and giddiness or euphoria of finally doing something about a person's GID, but the thinking processes involved. We are all happy that things are progressing toward our own personal goals, whatever they might be...but I want a little more lab coat thinking here.

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Another sidebar here: I think Premarin held my sexual appetite more in check than Progynova does. Admittedly I am older now..but I was not as ...er...horney with the Premarin as the Progynova.

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Keep in mind that conjugated estrogens and ethynil estradiol are supposedly MUCH more potent than bio-identical stuff, and take much longer to absorb due to the more complicated breakdown process. This would explain the bigger impact on emotional state, and also why B17 and valerate seem to act on your emotional state more quickly - readily absorbed, quickly broken down, it would explain why Progynon depot has the effects Annajasmine describes as well.

I deleted this post to correct the wrong info and reposting it I'm taking Progynon which is Estradiol Valerate same as Progynova


I when was 25 I took a 6 week wroth of Premarin it was a small dose so I didn't notice much of a change until the pills ran out for about 3 or 4 days I would just bust out in tears. With Progynon I taking a much higher dose by injection have notice that I act on my emotion quicker and quicker cry and longer, not necessary more often . I have no sex drive with Progynon.  I was late with injection I became a hateful person and knew how to be mean.  I know this wasn't exactly what your looking for I hopes it helps anyway.


Anna

I'm on 17b-estradiol/spiro.

I'm not sure I can answer this because it's VERY hard to tell what is "euphoria of finally doing something" and
the effects of 17b. But here it is:

mental - happiness like I've not EVER known. a feeling of contentment. deeper feeling of love. easier to cry, but
I've always found it somewhat easy to cry. Happy or sad tears. Yesterday for the first time since starting (about two months)
I wanted to scream, kick, bite someone. LOL. But it did not last long and I seem to be back to normal today. sex - take it
and enjoy it if offered(twice since starting HRT) but don't think about it ever and don't pursue it, NEVER horny. Seek
out conversations more with strangers. Speak my mind more. I seem to feel others pain more or maybe I'm more open
to responding to it. I spend a lot more time on my appearance even in boy mode.

I thought Premarin was the least acceptable HRT drug to take these days?

Premarin and Ethynil are nasty, but they are nevertheless extremely potent - much moreso than the bio-identicals favoured these days. I'm also on 17B/Spiro/Finasteride, and my feelings echo Amanda's.  Of course, my sex drive went away over a year ago, having started Spiro by itself back then.

In all honesty, I was expecting a stronger impact on my emotional state than the HRT has had. Granted, it is still very early, but I had expected WILD emotional swings. Instead, there's just this ... looser, more contented, more connected feeling that is awesome. I can cry for the first time since puberty, and even sad things that cause me to burst into tears are to be savoured. I can echo what Wing Walker said in another thread a while ago - They will pry my oestrogen from my cold, dead fingers.

No doubt drugs can make emotions more intense as some can cause depression when the chemistry of the body changes. Everyone has emotions and can control them for the most part. I think most of what TS experience is self made and has little to do with the drugs. Happy perceptions.

Quote from: lisagurl on March 28, 2008, 11:16:43 AM
No doubt drugs can make emotions more intense as some can cause depression when the chemistry of the body changes. Everyone has emotions and can control them for the most part. I think most of what TS experience is self made and has little to do with the drugs. Happy perceptions.

I don't doubt any of what you say. Maybe I've just given my self permission to feel differently and act normal

I haven't noticed much difference and I've been on most forms of HRT over the last 10 years. I am quite emotional and cry a lot but then I was like that before I took HRT..

Hi all,

I am on estrodial valerate and it has made me calmer, more balanced and a sense of well being. it had a real impact on my boobs from the first week.

I use to be very uptight and easily stressed but know as I said much calmer, I feel great not to feel so uptight and like a spring about to spring (hard to explain, like my mind fighting my body).

I was always one to easily cry at a sad movie or story so that hasn't changed, nor has my sense of empathy for people which I always had.

All in all its this sense of well being and calmness.

Hugs

Nigella

Quote from: Nigella on March 28, 2008, 03:00:35 PM
Hi all,

I am on estrodial valerate and it has made me calmer, more balanced and a sense of well being. it had a real impact on my boobs from the first week.

I use to be very uptight and easily stressed but know as I said much calmer, I feel great not to feel so uptight and like a spring about to spring (hard to explain, like my mind fighting my body).

I was always one to easily cry at a sad movie or story so that hasn't changed, nor has my sense of empathy for people which I always had.

All in all its this sense of well being and calmness.

Hugs

Nigella

An endo once put me on estrodial valerate in pill form and I was violently sick from it for a week.....all other forms of HRT are fine with me and have no side effects...

Quote from: Berliegh on March 28, 2008, 12:14:11 PM
I haven't noticed much difference and I've been on most forms of HRT over the last 10 years. I am quite emotional and cry a lot but then I was like that before I took HRT..

Same here.  The only thing I noticed is I get less angry, though a temper still flares up at times.  Overall I am still the emotional roller coaster I always was.