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couple questions regarding planned parenthood and testosterone questions

Started by PainKiller, September 13, 2018, 05:52:35 PM

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PainKiller

1) How does planned parenthood exactly work?
I know I have to schedule my appointment over the phone but what do they do at the appointment?
2) how much does it cost to cover my first prescription of testosterone + the appointment fees itself.
I'm moving out and I'm anxious to start T but I'm also broke and i'm not sure if my parent's medicaid insurance would cover HRT in Florida.
3) I keep hearing that it heavily depends on genetics but I don't want to grow a heavy beard. I know it's part of being a man but I have my reasons. I still want a clean face and no beard shadows. Normally people on T have trouble getting beards but does it really depend on genetics? because of that's the case most of the men in my family are hairy and I hate these genetics of mine since I was inbred.
4) I heard bottom growth also depends on genetics but similar to the beard I heard they maximum you could get is about 3 inches.
5) Since bottom growth takes time would my beard also take time.. or does it just depend on genetics. I mean I know my body is still biologically a female and I won't be able to get a 6 inch penis since the clitoris can only grow so much similar to how MTFs can only grow their breasts for so much before they would need top surgery. Would my beard be in a similar case to this?
6) Idk if this is true but do trans men get male pattern baldness quicker or age faster? I heard the younger you start testosterone the better the results. But what if I start at 18 years and I take T for 5 years? Would I be seeing male pattern baldness at the age of 23?
7) To prevent that male pattern baldness is it possible for me to take testostone for a couple of years and then take DHT blockers to prevent baldness? I heard DHT blockers prevents baldness and beard growth also prevents bottom growth while DHT cream itself causes baldness, beard growth, and helps with bottom growth.
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Grunt

Quote from: PainKiller on September 13, 2018, 05:52:35 PM
1) How does planned parenthood exactly work?
I know I have to schedule my appointment over the phone but what do they do at the appointment?
2) how much does it cost to cover my first prescription of testosterone + the appointment fees itself.
I'm moving out and I'm anxious to start T but I'm also broke and i'm not sure if my parent's medicaid insurance would cover HRT in Florida.
3) I keep hearing that it heavily depends on genetics but I don't want to grow a heavy beard. I know it's part of being a man but I have my reasons. I still want a clean face and no beard shadows. Normally people on T have trouble getting beards but does it really depend on genetics? because of that's the case most of the men in my family are hairy and I hate these genetics of mine since I was inbred.
4) I heard bottom growth also depends on genetics but similar to the beard I heard they maximum you could get is about 3 inches.
5) Since bottom growth takes time would my beard also take time.. or does it just depend on genetics. I mean I know my body is still biologically a female and I won't be able to get a 6 inch penis since the clitoris can only grow so much similar to how MTFs can only grow their breasts for so much before they would need top surgery. Would my beard be in a similar case to this?
6) Idk if this is true but do trans men get male pattern baldness quicker or age faster? I heard the younger you start testosterone the better the results. But what if I start at 18 years and I take T for 5 years? Would I be seeing male pattern baldness at the age of 23?
7) To prevent that male pattern baldness is it possible for me to take testostone for a couple of years and then take DHT blockers to prevent baldness? I heard DHT blockers prevents baldness and beard growth also prevents bottom growth while DHT cream itself causes baldness, beard growth, and helps with bottom growth.
Only question I can help answer is number one, as I started with Planned Parenthood, and only recently got an endocrinologist.

When I went in, they asked some questions just to make sure you're positive you want to do this, then they have you sign forms, and then draw blood for lab work. After that, you go home and wait for them to call you with news of what your first dosage will start at. When you run low, you set up another appointment with them to get a refill.

I can't help with number two because I have insurance that covers it all, and I can't help with the others because I just started in April.

Best of luck!
~Benji

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Devlyn

Welcome to Susan's Place!

You'll pay for the appointment, a full blood panel, and the hormones themselves.

When it comes to HRT, expect no physical changes and you'll never be disappointed.

Men who don't want beards and mustaches shave.

If you take cross sex hormones for several years, your body's natural production of hormones will be suppressed, and without one or the other hormone you'll get very sick.

It sounds like you need to do a bit more homework before you dive into changing your body chemistry permanently.

Hugs, Devlyn
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PainKiller

Quote from: Devlyn on September 13, 2018, 06:01:01 PM
If you take cross sex hormones for several years, your body's natural production of hormones will be suppressed, and without one or the other hormone you'll get very sick.
wdym cross sex hormones?
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Devlyn

I was born male, I take the cross sex female hormone estradiol. FTM's take the cross sex male hormone testosterone.

Hugs, Devlyn
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PainKiller

Quote from: Devlyn on September 13, 2018, 06:22:34 PM
I was born male, I take the cross sex female hormone estradiol. FTM's take the cross sex male hormone testosterone.

Hugs, Devlyn

right normally it's just referred to as hormone replacement therapy
I'm asking if I can take DHT blockers while taking testosterone to avoid male pattern baldness
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Ryuichi13

I'm going to answer the questions I can, okay  Hope you don't mind.

3) I keep hearing that it heavily depends on genetics but I don't want to grow a heavy beard. I know it's part of being a man but I have my reasons. I still want a clean face and no beard shadows. Normally people on T have trouble getting beards but does it really depend on genetics? because of that's the case most of the men in my family are hairy and I hate these genetics of mine since I was inbred.

I hate to tell you, but it truly does depend on your genes.  If you have genes for heavy beard growth, you might end up having to shave.  I have a beard that's coming in somewhat light now, but my family has both hairy faces and relatively hairless ones, so I could go either way. 

4) I heard bottom growth also depends on genetics but similar to the beard I heard they maximum you could get is about 3 inches.

The average is around 1.5 to 2 inches, not really enough for penetration. 

5) Since bottom growth takes time would my beard also take time.. or does it just depend on genetics. I mean I know my body is still biologically a female and I won't be able to get a 6 inch penis since the clitoris can only grow so much similar to how MTFs can only grow their breasts for so much before they would need top surgery. Would my beard be in a similar case to this?

From what I have read, and also what I experienced, my beard took a few months to start coming in, but my still slight mustache came in pretty rapidly in comparison.  I now have a sparse, but slowly filling-in beard after 21 months.

Bottom growth for me at least, started pretty quickly.  Mine started growing within the first month.  I learned to stop wearing tight boxer briefs and now I wear looser ones.  I still pack though.  you don't end up with enough growth to fill underwear.

6) Idk if this is true but do trans men get male pattern baldness quicker or age faster? I heard the younger you start testosterone the better the results. But what if I start at 18 years and I take T for 5 years? Would I be seeing male pattern baldness at the age of 23?

Again, it depends on your genes.  What age does baldness run in your family?  that might be your best indicator.  Also, iirc, MPB comes mainly from the mother's side of the family.  If you take T for five years, chances are you could end up looking like any male brothers you might have.  Not to mention, a deeper voice, body hair, any bone growth you may still be having, muscle growth...much of which are non-reversable.  Again, YMMV.

7) To prevent that male pattern baldness is it possible for me to take testostone for a couple of years and then take DHT blockers to prevent baldness? I heard DHT blockers prevents baldness and beard growth also prevents bottom growth while DHT cream itself causes baldness, beard growth, and helps with bottom growth.

Honestly, I couldn't tell you.  I'd think a doctor would be better answering that, and even then it would be a educated guess at most.  I don't know anything about DHT cream, sorry. 

I no longer care about MPB.  If I end up bald, oh well.  If I get to keep my dreadlocks, YAY!  I just want to look like the man I should have been born as, and take whatever comes with it as it happens.

Like it was mentioned before, it sounds like you need to do a LOT more research before taking a hormone as powerful and body-altering as testosterone.  Good luck.

Ryuichi


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PainKiller

@Ryuichi13
The only reason why I was asking is because I don't have any brother siblings and there really isn't a lot of male relatives on my mother's side
Other than my grandfather who is about 86 and he's bald in the center.
She does have a brother who's going bald but he's around in his 60s.
I do have a couple of male cousins but they came from an aunt who isn't related to us
I'm not sure how genetics would work in this case since most of the relatives in our family are 85% female and I guess I was the unlucky one to be born as a female...
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SeptagonScars

I don't live in the US and my knowledge about planned parenthood is very very limited, so I can't answer those questions, but the other ones I know some about.

3) I keep hearing that it heavily depends on genetics but I don't want to grow a heavy beard. I know it's part of being a man but I have my reasons. I still want a clean face and no beard shadows. Normally people on T have trouble getting beards but does it really depend on genetics? because of that's the case most of the men in my family are hairy and I hate these genetics of mine since I was inbred.
- Yes, it is genetic, unfortunately you don't have any control over that. My genetics are very hairy too, all males among my relatives grow/grew thick and full facial hair. I ended up with about the same result, at around 4 years on T. However my cheeks remain much more sparse than my genetics could foresee. When shaving, I get a bluish shadow on my sideburn area, along my jawline and under my chin where it grows the thickest and darkest. My upper lip, cheeks and front of chin areas don't leave a noticable beard shadow when I've shaved. If you're comfortable with using makeup (I make no judgements either way!) you could cover a beard shadow with colour correcting and foundation. It works well for my face, but is a lot of work. Perhaps a controversal suggestion, but you could also (if you can afford it) remove facial hair with laser and/or electrolysis after having gone on T. However in that case I'd suggest waiting until it's finished developing first. Some cis men do get their facial hair removed, cause some men just don't like it.

4) I heard bottom growth also depends on genetics but similar to the beard I heard they maximum you could get is about 3 inches.
- It is technically possible to get more growth than that, but it's very very rare to get anything more than 3 inches. (And biggest I've heard of was a guy who got 4 inches). It starts getting rare already at more than 2 inches. Most likely size will end up at around 1-2 inches. Also, your pre-T size will not determine your final result.

5) Since bottom growth takes time would my beard also take time.. or does it just depend on genetics. I mean I know my body is still biologically a female and I won't be able to get a 6 inch penis since the clitoris can only grow so much similar to how MTFs can only grow their breasts for so much before they would need top surgery. Would my beard be in a similar case to this?
- Yes beard is one of the things that takes the longest to develope when taking T. The time I most often hear for how long it takes for the beard to get full is around 3-4 years, but it does typically start growing just a few months in, but then only a few hairs here and there. However, I've heard of trans guys getting a full beard at only around 2 years. There are some rumours going around a bit, that ethnicity can be a contributing factor in how fast body- and face hair develope when taking T.

6) Idk if this is true but do trans men get male pattern baldness quicker or age faster? I heard the younger you start testosterone the better the results. But what if I start at 18 years and I take T for 5 years? Would I be seeing male pattern baldness at the age of 23?
- I don't know for sure, but all I've heard is that the way trans men develope male pattern baldness is not any different from cis men, regardless of when you start taking T. But yes, if you'd go off T while still having hair on your head, you will prevent baldness from occurring or worsening. Also worth noting, I think, is that regardless of if you'd get mpb or not, you will most likely get a more typically male hairline. Meaning hairline receeds only slightly at the temples.

7) To prevent that male pattern baldness is it possible for me to take testostone for a couple of years and then take DHT blockers to prevent baldness? I heard DHT blockers prevents baldness and beard growth also prevents bottom growth while DHT cream itself causes baldness, beard growth, and helps with bottom growth.
- Yes, DHT is said to both cause baldness and increase bottom growth. I've no idea if dht cream for bottom growth can be used simultaneously as dht blockers for the head hair. It would, I presume, depend on if either or both of those work mainly locally or affect dht-receptors in the whole body, and if they would clash or be counter-active together. You'd probably have to ask a hormone specialist about that. But yes you can take medications for preventing baldness while still taking T. Bottom growth is most likely to only happen for the first 2-ish years on T. So if you'd go on a dht blocker after 2 years on T, you'd likely not prevent any more bottom growth.
Mar. 2009 - came out as ftm
Nov. 2009 - changed my name to John
Mar. 2010 - diagnosed with GID
Aug. 2010 - started T, then stopped after 1 year
Aug. 2013 - started T again, kept taking it since
Mar. 2014 - top surgery
Dec. 2014 - legal gender marker changed to male
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Jul. 2018 - came out as cis woman and began detransition
Sep. 2018 - stopped taking T and changed my name to Laura
Oct. 2018 - got new ID-card

Medical Detransition plans: breast reconstruction surgery, change legal gender back to female.
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blackcat

@Painkiller

Some people start Finasteride (a DHT blocker) with T. However, DHT is important to the body, too. A small percentage of people have horrifying accounts of side effects of using a DHT blocker, side effects that in some cases persisted after stopping the blocker, so please research this further. Like permanent fatigue and libido issues. I've read accounts from people using both Finasteride and Saw Palmetto.

I've also heard of waiting a few years to start Finasteride so it doesn't interfere with puberty (but I have no idea about the hard science behind this).

I am not keen on facial hair, either, but then it occurred to me that all of those babyfaced androgynous men that I adore... are grown men, with normal levels of T, who went through puberty, and shave accordingly. If I lose my hair, I'll get a wig. T has alleviated my anxiety to the point that I do not care one whit what else it does to me, because I feel amazing, and I have the energy and mental resources to solve my problems.

But this is what works for me. You have to figure out what works for you. My advice would be to read as many people's experiences as you can, and research all the side effects of everything you're considering fully so you can make the most informed decision.
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