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Gender Euphoria vs Dysphoria

Started by MissKatie, September 18, 2018, 01:32:55 AM

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MissKatie

Hello again all.
I've been doing a lot of thinking and research into why I feel I am female and obviously everyone is different but I just don't really have high levels of dysphoria. it's not as though I hate my male body, it's more that I have no interest in it and would just feel better with female traits.
I've read about people getting into deep depressions and causing themselves harm because of the wrong body. I don't get beyond 'ewww those legs should be smooth and those testicles would look better if they weren't there'

That's why I get a bit doubtful, I feel good and right and happy when I dress as female and there's no doubt in my mind that a female body is what I should have.

Can a transgender person really have little gender dysphoria and if not, is gender euphoria actually an acceptable thing?
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Isabelle1970

Hi Katie

Your not alone in this. I think it's down to more how your mind is wired. Like you I don't despise my male body, I just don't like my weight and hairy legs and chest, and as for down there, it's not really a hate relationship I have with it, I just wish it wasn't there. I do however dislike a lot the action of penetrative sex, and wish I was the one receiving.
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Kirsteneklund7

Hi Miss Katie,
                        Not every trans person gets body or physical dysphoria. In fact the word dysphoria gets massively overused and misused. You are what you are and feel what you feel. If you suspect you would be better off as female you may be right.

    Like many trans people I find not expressing my feminine self causes frustration and anxiety in the end.
 
Having a female appearance makes me feel better than having a male appearance but I don't hate my male body.

One thing about gender euphoria vs dysphoria is a feeling of being out of synch or not aligned. Sometimes a feeling of not being totally all there. A feeling of not living to life to the full. Gender euphoria can result when things line up - even if only temporarily.

Depression and self harm are not transgender validation in any way.

But that's just my personal opinion,

Kirsten[emoji259]

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As a child prayed to be a girl- now the prayer is being answered - 40 years later !
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KathyLauren

I think this is not uncommon.  My experience was similar. 

My dysphoria was mostly about my presentation and social role and less about my body.  I didn't hate my male body, and I took reasonably good care of it (for which I am thankful now), but I just wished that I had the female variety. 

I think that part of how I experienced dysphoria was due to my survival strategy of turning off my feelings.  If I don't feel anything, I won't feel bad, right? :P  It made it difficult to discern what was happening.  Now that I have dealt with the elephant in the room and am starting to feel more, I am aware that body dysphoria was always there.  It just wasn't priority #1 for me.
2015-07-04 Awakening; 2015-11-15 Out to self; 2016-06-22 Out to wife; 2016-10-27 First time presenting in public; 2017-01-20 Started HRT!!; 2017-04-20 Out publicly; 2017-07-10 Legal name change; 2019-02-15 Approval for GRS; 2019-08-02 Official gender change; 2020-03-11 GRS; 2020-09-17 New birth certificate
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MissKatie

Quote from: KathyLauren on September 18, 2018, 07:40:53 AM


I think that part of how I experienced dysphoria was due to my survival strategy of turning off my feelings.  If I don't feel anything, I won't feel bad, right?

bam! you've really hit the nail there Kathy.
That's pretty much it. I dismiss all and every feeling in regards to my body. I just see it as a shell that holds my brain.
I don't want to get myself down over it so I just say "yeah whatever" and get on with things.

I'm not sure I am emotionally stable enough to actually think about it too much right now.
I just know I see a woman and all I think is "I want that shape" I saw a lady today who was about 5'9" and was what I would call a healthy eater. she had a tiny bit of podge and she she looked amazing to me and all I could think was "I'm jealous"
I have typical man wide chest and although I do have a big old butt (for a man I guess) it's not the right shape or rather it's not the shape I want to be.

I have a hard time accepting that most cis men don't feel like this too. I imagine that really all or at least most cis men want a female body and because men are men even if they did and you asked them they'd say no they are happy as a man anyway.

that's my disconnect I think. I honestly don't believe that men want to actually be men because I was born male and socially grew up male I just figure all men are like me, wanting to be female.
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Ryuichi13

Quote from: MissKatie on September 18, 2018, 01:32:55 AM
Hello again all.
I've been doing a lot of thinking and research into why I feel I am female and obviously everyone is different but I just don't really have high levels of dysphoria. it's not as though I hate my male body, it's more that I have no interest in it and would just feel better with female traits.
I've read about people getting into deep depressions and causing themselves harm because of the wrong body. I don't get beyond 'ewww those legs should be smooth and those testicles would look better if they weren't there'

That's why I get a bit doubtful, I feel good and right and happy when I dress as female and there's no doubt in my mind that a female body is what I should have.

Can a transgender person really have little gender dysphoria and if not, is gender euphoria actually an acceptable thing?

I too don't actively hate my body.  I just wish that I had male genitalia instead of female.  I don't hate my chest, I just don't find it useful in any way, thus my planning of top surgery hopefully next year. 

Gender euphoria is a thing!  I get it when I get "sir" while in a restaurant, or Mr.----- when I'm at a store.  it makes me feel wonderful!  The fact that testosterone is giving me more male attributes is a wonderful thing! 

So yes, the answer to your question is, "you can have gender euphoria as well as dysphoria, and yes, it too is acceptable. :)

Ryuichi


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Sonja

Quote from: Kirsteneklund7 on September 18, 2018, 02:59:08 AM
Hi Miss Katie,
                        Not every trans person gets body or physical dysphoria. In fact the word dysphoria gets massively overused and misused. You are what you are and feel what you feel. If you suspect you would be better off as female you may be right.

    Like many trans people I find not expressing my feminine self causes frustration and anxiety in the end.
 
Having a female appearance makes me feel better than having a male appearance but I don't hate my male body.

One thing about gender euphoria vs dysphoria is a feeling of being out of synch or not aligned. Sometimes a feeling of not being totally all there. A feeling of not living to life to the full. Gender euphoria can result when things line up - even if only temporarily.

Depression and self harm are not transgender validation in any way.

But that's just my personal opinion,

Kirsten[emoji259]

Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk
@Kirsteneklund7
Excellently put Kirsten - I totally agree!  and experience this in the same way.

Cheers,

Sonja.
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