All checks are to be sent to me along with a flatscreen television.

Or, you can pay for my college.   

Quote from: Rebis on March 31, 2008, 10:14:58 AM
Or, you can pay for my college. 

Join me at UPS and the company will pay for your college, plus if you mention my name they'll pay me a fee for referring you. That's the same offer I made my daughter.

Simone

Really?  They won't make me drive, will they?

I hate driving.  I'm a computician (a make believe word), but willing to do nearly anything except kiss Earnest Borgnine.

Quote from: Rebis on March 31, 2008, 01:28:35 PM
but willing to do nearly anything except kiss Earnest Borgnine.

Come on, you know you want to!


Check UPS for locations, there is likely one near you and driving is not the easiest job to get there.

Maybe I will.

Do you both work (SD & Simone) at UPS?

Quote from: Rebis on March 31, 2008, 02:04:41 PM

Maybe I will.

Do you both work (SD & Simone) at UPS?

I have a buddy who did, I never worked there. I only know a little about it from those who have applied or do work there.

I am self employed.

SD is correct that driving is a coveted position; I don't want to be a driver, myself. Mostly, I pick up a package in a truck and put it onto a moving belt. Sometimes, I sort packages. Other times, I pull packages from a belt and load them on one of the brown "package cars" that go from house to house and business to business.

I once had dinner in a restaurant close to Bert Lahr (the Cowardly Lion), but I have never seen Ernest Borgnine in person. You needn't worry about having to kiss him while working at UPS.

I feel bad now that I may have demeaned Ernest Borgnine.   I supposed if he didn't do his McHale laugh, I could kiss him.   His teeth freak me out.

  How exactly did we come to the subject of kissing Ernest Borgnine?  hehe.  That's pretty...special. 

an old woody allen joke in one of his books.  he refers to a woman who looks like ernest borgnine.   So, now and then over the years, I stupidly wonder what it would be like to kiss ernest borgnine.

I've always thought my mind has been sorta both genders at the same time- Tick.
I can see both the views of a boy and girl (quite useful in life actually).- Tick.

But I'm a Boy!
This seems to be confusing me so much lately! I am a Boy! I have been FOR EVER. So why do a lot of (no, MOST) Androgynous things apply to me?
Sorry, that sounded propper selfish, just needed to get it off my chest. 

Quote from: fluffy jorgen on March 31, 2008, 08:41:17 PM
I've always thought my mind has been sorta both genders at the same time- Tick.
I can see both the views of a boy and girl (quite useful in life actually).- Tick.

But I'm a Boy!
This seems to be confusing me so much lately! I am a Boy! I have been FOR EVER. So why do a lot of (no, MOST) Androgynous things apply to me?
Sorry, that sounded propper selfish, just needed to get it off my chest. 

I think all that matters is what you feel you are. If you feel you are a boy then you are a boy. It does not matter if you wear cherry red lipstick, 4 inch heals, a strap-on, and can cry watching chick flicks (which incidently is the image of my ideal man, such a man would appeal and repel me, I could be anything with such a man). You could be a boy with extra perks or a perk with extra boy....it is ok to be gender queer. The traits don't make you what you are, traits are just things you have.


Just aside I like Rebs new avatar. I liked the show where Bender got an 'oil change' and became a fembot,Roberta, and she almost got married to calculon <sigh>.

maybe you are a boy with an open mind and some different experiences to most boys.

Actually, I have often thought that I am a boy.  But the difference for me is that I am NOT a MAN.  I think that's what makes me pre-gendered/androgyne and not ftm.  I am most definitely not a man or a woman.  In my mind, I am a boy, but I can live with girl.  It's man and woman I have trouble with.  But that's the pregendered coming out. 

Not a manly man, right?
Hell, I really need help with this. How do I explain this to my Therapist?

Can just imagine the conversation.

I'm a boy.
Are you a man?
Not the manly kind.
What kind are you then?
The... Womanly kind?
Yes, but not a woman!
Why?

And I'm back on Square one! I can't explain it and then She goes and drops a bombshell.
Are you Androgynous?
Agreeing to that would make people lay off my case but agreeing to that would make "my case" doubtable.

Sorry, it's 3:20AM and I need to get some sleep. Sorry for spamming.

Eureaka Jamiey

And thank you.

and it's no spamming - always welcome for new perspectives.

Quote from: fluffy jorgen on March 31, 2008, 09:18:32 PM
Not a manly man, right?
Hell, I really need help with this. How do I explain this to my Therapist?

Can just imagine the conversation.

I'm a boy.
Are you a man?
Not the manly kind.
What kind are you then?
The... Womanly kind?
Yes, but not a woman!
Why?

And I'm back on Square one! I can't explain it and then She goes and drops a bombshell.
Are you Androgynous?
Agreeing to that would make people lay off my case but agreeing to that would make "my case" doubtable.

Sorry, it's 3:20AM and I need to get some sleep. Sorry for spamming.

Hey Fluffy.

I feel pretty much the same. I mean, I am a manly man and all that, but have many 'unmanly' traits. I wear mascara, highlight my hair and don't know sports. Also am very non-stoic. So, convential thinking considers me androgynous, I guess. But an androgynous male. Whether it's due to my female upbringing or not, don't know. Don't care. It's me.

Quote from: fluffy jorgen on March 31, 2008, 09:18:32 PM
Not a manly man, right?
Hell, I really need help with this. How do I explain this to my Therapist?

Can just imagine the conversation.

I'm a boy.
Are you a man?
Not the manly kind.
What kind are you then?
The... Womanly kind?
Yes, but not a woman!
Why?

And I'm back on Square one! I can't explain it and then She goes and drops a bombshell.
Are you Androgynous?
Agreeing to that would make people lay off my case but agreeing to that would make "my case" doubtable.

Sorry, it's 3:20AM and I need to get some sleep. Sorry for spamming.

I don't think you need to explain it. It can just be because that is the way you feel. Perhaps androgeonly man? I think popeye said it most poeticly - "I yam what I yam."

Quote from: fluffy jorgen on March 31, 2008, 08:41:17 PM
I've always thought my mind has been sorta both genders at the same time- Tick.
I can see both the views of a boy and girl (quite useful in life actually).- Tick.

But I'm a Boy!
This seems to be confusing me so much lately! I am a Boy! I have been FOR EVER. So why do a lot of (no, MOST) Androgynous things apply to me?
Sorry, that sounded propper selfish, just needed to get it off my chest. 

So you are both, you need to separate your body from your mind/gender. They are two separate things. Ignore what your body is, and pay attention to your mind, this has nothing to do with your body.

Try and get your head around being both genders before trying to figure anything else out.
There are people here who started off more mixed up than you, it will come, just try not to rush or freak out about it.

Posted on: March 31, 2008, 09:29:58 PM

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Quote from: Rebis on March 31, 2008, 08:29:01 PM
So, now and then over the years, I stupidly wonder what it would be like to kiss ernest borgnine.

I will never look at you or Ernest the same again... I think I am scarred for life.

Would mentioning "androgynous" in any context do any bad in the long run though?
As much as I hate opening up to Psychologists, etc., I know I have to, to get anywhere.
So if I'm being me and they say "androgynous"... Uh.
Just saw Annwayn's thread too, all I wanna do is go to sleep, but my Mind's on Overdrive.
If I do research on this... Oh, buggar, mental block!
Yes, scratch the body, I'm a boy.
But... A boy can't be a boy on their own. There's always an essence of a girl in them. Is that it?
Noone can be a 100% their... What's the word... The gender they're born as?