Quote from: HappyMoni on October 21, 2018, 10:43:10 AM
The country is not a hell hole. The people in charge of it right now have without doubt declared us the enemy. They come for us, they come for immigrants, they come for LGB's, poor people, black/brown people! At what point do people stop pretending these are normal American values, and realize this is sick, wrong, evil even? Vote, get your friends to get off their butts and vote.

amen

America isn't perfect and no other country is. With that said, I believe that the government needs to stay out of people's personal lives. Specifically the bedroom.

I want to see why ->-bleeped-<- is not accepted. I want them to scientifically support there position without religion. Why exclude religion? Separation of church and state. I hate to say it, but religion is the problem until proven otherwise.

I really do not want to wait until the Millennial generation takes control of the country. That could take a decade or two. Even longer for the SCOTUS.

Quote from: itsApril on October 24, 2018, 01:31:40 PM


.  "Looks a little more female than male to me.  What do you think, Mike?"  Cut.  Snip.  Stitch.  A girl is born.  Follow with twenty years of rigid socialization, reinforced, if necessary, with administration of hormonal supplementation.

Under this HHS approach the future is grim for trans folks generally.  It may be grimmest of all for those who are intersexed.

This is disgusting.  And dangerous.  GET THESE REPUBLICAN LOONS OUT OF POWER!

I am one of those, they just did a little more stich on me, and a boy was born!  Nobody cared that I never did fit in, always at the outside of the entire male gender.  But I learned to ply my role well, what else could I do, if I wanted to survive?

Now I am at the point that I want my real gender back.  I want to live at least for a few years in a body that always was supposed to be the way it will be shortly (I hope)!  Am glad that this body is already working on it, if it just would find a way to change my genitals everything would be great!

QuoteI hate to say it, but religion is the problem until proven otherwise.

+1

Specifically, Pence and pandering to the Evangelicals.

Quote from: AnneK on October 24, 2018, 04:37:14 PM
+1

Specifically, Pence and pandering to the Evangelicals.

He said of himself that he is a practicing Calvinist.  If you don't know what that means, read up on Calvinism and your toe nails will curl!

I like this article

https://www.thriveglobal.com/stories/47935-trump-cannot-erase-me-and-my-transgender-community

Quote from: Dietlind on October 23, 2018, 05:01:56 PM

If my Dems ever start to put their fingers on my guns, they are not my Dems anymore!

However, there have never been any Dems who really wanted to go for the guns.  This was only fear mongering from the NRA and some extreme right wing groups. 
I was in the inside of the Dems in Minnesota, one of the really blue states, but also one of the states with a high amount of gun ownership per capita.  Half of the Dem leadership there could have compete with the National Guard concerning being armed. 
Nobody ever mentioned to take anybody's guns away.  The only guns that are not liked (by most Americans) are military style assault guns.

As I say, if anybody of the Dems come for our guns, I march with you arm in arm to the Rep side!

I'm from NY and there are plenty dems that want a gunless society, except for them and maybe the police.


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Guns or knives it does not matter. If someone is going to do bad things they will. Granted the link is for the UK not America, but as a whole people are people.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/5251268/london-stabbings-latest-knife-crime/

All that I am saying is that if it isn't gun violence then it will be knife violence. So, I do not see the point of banning guns.

It is almost impossible to ban guns in the US.  There are so many out there, who will ever be able to get!
Yes, there are some dems that want to outlaw guns, but there are republicans that want to outlaw porn, and there are some libertarians that want to outlaw public education, and there are some greens who want to outlaw cars, etc.  There are always some who want to outlaw something.  Obama was supposed to come and get our guns.  Did he come?  At least he was not at my door to get mine.  The only winners were the arms industry.  I could not get amo for my pistol for months!  The amo horters were there before I could go to buy some!

Now some reps are planning to outlaw porn.  The US has by far the largest porn industry in the world, and some major money is made with it.  Nobody will get a chance to outlaw that big business!

We do not have to talk about the outlaw plans of the libertarians or the greens, because they will never get the chance to start with their outlawing!

However the chance that we may become nothing is a real one, because they are working on that right now!   That should be our concern, not guns or something that will never happen!

Whats wrong with vouchers for private schools? have you seen the sad state of public education. As for guns that's because he blew it working on the ACA. and the rest of the time he wouldn't have been able to get his way. You can see many pictures of people protesting with signs that say "yes we want to take your guns". And that makes me very Leary of voting blue. I still haven't forgot Bill Clinton and the awb of 90.

My concern with this planned rule is a real one!  All my life I had to try to get along as a nothing.  I was not a real man or a real woman.  I was something in between, with other words, I was nothing who tried to act like a man to survive!

Now I have finally the chance to get into my real gender, but to do that, I need health insurance.  The only health insurance for old nothings like me can afford, is Medicare.  Medicare is a federal program, and if they make a rule that federal programs can only pay for cis gender stuff, I will not be able to get the services and medications I need, and I will be dammed to remain a nothing for the rest of my live.

Most of you at last had/have a body that looks pretty much like a body for your assigned gender should look like, and you were not made fun of.  I never had that luck, because my body always looked girlish, but not girlish enough, to be accepted by the girls as one of them!
I hated to g swimming in the summer, because I had to show my softy body.  guys were wearing speedos when i was younger, and were sporting their ware, I had not much to sport down there.

Anyway, now that I have the chance to get my boy back, they are trying to make laws to prevent me from doing this!
and I am more than only Pi**** at that!

Quote from: Danni98 on October 24, 2018, 06:30:51 PM
Whats wrong with vouchers for private schools? have you seen the sad state of public education. As for guns that's because he blew it working on the ACA. and the rest of the time he wouldn't have been able to get his way. You can see many pictures of people protesting with signs that say "yes we want to take your guns". And that makes me very Leary of voting blue. I still haven't forgot Bill Clinton and the awb of 90.

Don't get me started on this!  The vouchers were exactly the reason that public education is in a sad state!
My wife was a professor at one of the larger Schools of Education in this country, and she was actually part of the analyzing team established by Pres Bush.  The problem was that the results the team recommended, were never put into action because of the lobbying efforts from some private school companies (De Voss was one of them).

The typical thing, we create a problem and than make the public belief that those, who created the problem in the first place, will come for the salvation!

Quote from: Dietlind on October 24, 2018, 06:18:03 PM

However the chance that we may become nothing is a real one, because they are working on that right now!   That should be our concern, not guns or something that will never happen!

@Dietlind

My thoughts as well, this latest move by Trump is in the works, sitting idly by and smiling is not what any Transgender American should be doing right now IMO. It doesn't matter what political affiliation you vote for there must be something 'you' can do to help make sure this move loses momentum and comes to nothing.

Thank my lucky stars I live in a country that has already had its first transgender member of parliament and where laws prohibit anyone from slandering a transgender person in public or at work.

Sonja.

Dietlind you're not gonna get a thumbs up from me. My friends neice's history teacher didn't know what the Bismarck was, and my own kids teacher taught them Hawaii was in the North Atlantic.

Quote from: Dietlind on October 24, 2018, 06:38:48 PM
Don't get me started on this!  The vouchers were exactly the reason that public education is in a sad state!
My wife was a professor at one of the larger Schools of Education in this country, and she was actually part of the analyzing team established by Pres Bush.  The problem was that the results the team recommended, were never put into action because of the lobbying efforts from some private school companies (De Voss was one of them).

The typical thing, we create a problem and than make the public belief that those, who created the problem in the first place, will come for the salvation!

I sent my children to private schools and have no regrets.

Fellow list mates: May I once again urge upon you that the issue before us here is NOT firearms.  It is NOT school vouchers.  It is NOT socialism or capitalism.

The issue before us is the position developing in the US Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) to redefine sex and gender in such a way as to negate and stigmatize us as a group.

There are many downstream ramifications of this approach.  One of the most immediate and damaging is this: HHS writes the regulations covering health insurance.  There is every likelihood that HHS will move forward to modify the healthcare regulations to eliminate the requirement that health insurance must cover services critical to our well-being as trans folks, such as: gender-related HRT, surgery, and counseling.

If insurers no longer HAVE to cover these services, many insurers will no longer cover them.  This WAS their general approach ten years ago.  If we don't stop this, it MAY BE their general approach five years hence.

Please stop and reflect upon what this will mean in your life and the lives of others.  Then act accordingly.

In the meantime, let's give it a rest on the endless gun debate.  Nobody here is making any headway trying to convince people about guns one way or another.

KEEP YOUR EYE ON THE BALL!

Then get more people signing that petition. There's been at least 11 pages worth of people in here and only 20 something signatures, and a 1/4th to a third of them are people my kids sent it to. I'm also disappointed I haven't seen much on youtube, only Blair White and she seemed to be kinda kissing trumps.... and Stef Sanjati, which made the most sensible argument.

I don't know what you all pay for your prescriptions, but gel would cost more than my monthly rent if I had to pay out of pocket. That's horrifying.

All I can do now is come out to everyone and be visible. I'm coming out at work tomorrow. I deal with the general public so maybe it will make the lightbulb will go off in a few of my client's heads and influence a handful of votes. In light of this situation, I deeply regret not coming out sooner because I see my clients on a monthly basis and there are some I won't see before the upcoming vote.

I had absolutely zero intentions of coming out, by the way, prior to this stupid announcement.

And I'm changing all of my markers ASAP. I was going to do it in the new year, but I don't have that luxury. If they're going to erase everyone, I want to make sure I am personally erased. I want to make sure someone has to take the extra time out of their day to erase one more name, see one more person as transgender in the system.

Quote from: Danni98 on October 24, 2018, 06:54:23 PM
Dietlind you're not gonna get a thumbs up from me. My friends neice's history teacher didn't know what the Bismarck was, and my own kids teacher taught them Hawaii was in the North Atlantic.

It is up to your state, what qualifications they require a teacher to have.  I was amazed to hear that Texas requires subs to have a high school diploma only!  That means, a sub is nothing but a baby sitter there!
A sub in Wisconsin or Minnesota has to have a  minimum of a bachelors degree in a general subject that is close to the area one is supposed to sub in.  That means, a sub for physics has to have an engineering degree or something like this!   subs like this can continue to teach for the case the teacher prepares a sub plan, that is also required there!

Probably time to change the state you live in!

Na were good, I properly re educated them. My daughters teacher hated having to read her 35 page report on antisemitism in Germany. Sob gave her a b because they said it was too long.

Trump has described himself as a Nationalist. Add the word White, and you got yourself one hateful SOB. Not only is he coming after us and immigrants, but he will go after any portion of the population that does fit his agenda. The only thing missing is the uniformed men and the Nazi flag at his side.

The most important thing we can do is replace the conservatives in the Congress and Senate now, and then replace HIM in 2020. Our votes aolne won't be enough. He knows that. The rest of the country needs to know just how evil and twisted Trump is, so that there could be sufficient numbers to vote out the bigots.

Anyone that would rather see this entire country go to war against anyone that is not cis, straight, and white, is someone I would wish horrible things on.