Quote from: Alice (nym) on January 09, 2019, 08:03:09 PM
Coming to the post late... so let's get the irrelevant stuff out of the way first... I am Nordic stock... I carry the Norwegian viking gene. Ironically (because he's a massive homo/trans phobe) my father has no body hair. I, however, have hair from nose/ears to toes and it is the bane of my life right now.

Shaving my legs gives me a chickenpox look for weeks after from ingrowing hairs. And the itching is just unbearable. I tired sugar waxing and that worked really nicely except that by the time I finished it had took all the skin off my finger tips. So that took a couple of weeks to heal by which time the hair was coming back.

At the moment I am just letting my skin heal from the last shaving... so I am back to hairy for now. The chemical solution is going to be next. I can more or less tolerate it on my body, legs, and even face because I don't see it all the time. It only really bothers me when I use the bathroom or look in a mirror. But my arms and hands are a constant daily battle. I epilate my arms daily and when it gets too much I just have to shave them because I just can't stand seeing just one hair on them. I spend hours just battling the hair on my arms.

Arm/hand hair is a major point of dysphoria for me. Not as bad as ticking the male/female box on forms but probably my third biggest source of dysphoria. So no laughing matter for me.

Welcome to the conversation.  It can get a bit hairy around here, so keep a  lint roller handy.
I too have a folliculitis problem, except mine can be rather severe.  I found the best way to shave my legs and arms without much problem is to use a hair removal cream that has essential oils and conditioners for the allotted time before I turn on the shower.  The stuff that I use is NAIR Nourish Shower Power with Argan Oil.  It does not stink that much, not harsh on my skin and is shower resistant.  That allows you to get into a really warm shower and wipe off an area at a time.  Then if you are like me and demand silky smooth, you can proceed to shave with new, quality multi-blade razor.  With about 80% of the follicles completely out of the way, the shaving fairly effortless.  Use a quality lubricant oil that has conditioners.  I use Shave Secret.  Both products are inexpensive, does a great job and can potentially alleviate most of your shaving woes.  I still have problems when the hairs start to grow back out, rubbing my inseam on my shorts/pants, causing flare ups.  I think that might be caused from our laundry detergent.

Quote from: Dietlind on January 09, 2019, 09:35:23 PM
I ignore those boxes and the ones for race whenever I can.  Most of the time the do not d any value for me!

A lot of times, I will take the form up to the person that hand it to me, act offended, and ask where is the check box for Texan.  Sometimes they laugh and other times they just nonchalantly reply, "Check Other".

Have you girls ever tried one of those home laser thingy's?  I think Barbie is using it quite successful!  That would by far be the most gentle way to remove unwanted hair without any skin damage!

Quote from: Dietlind on January 09, 2019, 08:39:27 AM
Oh, I did no know that one can have hair on the hands and on the feet.  Some other areas of my body that are hairless!  I am slowly feeling really as if I am a freak of nature!

Oh yeah they can. My dad has hair on the back of his hands. Tyler and Tristan do as well but the hair on their hands is blonde so it's not very noticeable thankfully. Your not a freak of nature. I have very light and soft hair on my legs and underarms. And even though I didn't start hrt until I was 17 I never developed any facial hair at all. Thankfully!

Quote from: Julia1996 on January 09, 2019, 11:42:17 PM
Oh yeah they can. My dad has hair on the back of his hands. Tyler and Tristan do as well but the hair on their hands is blonde so it's not very noticeable thankfully. Your not a freak of nature. I have very light and soft hair on my legs and underarms. And even though I didn't start hrt until I was 17 I never developed any facial hair at all. Thankfully!

It is understandable with you, because you never went really into full puberty (or at least not that part of it).  I got the first facial hair that was "shave able" when I was about 28.  I never developed any other of the secondary male sex characteristics (no body hair, no adult skin, no Adams Apple), but I also did not finish puberty.  In fact I started to finish it 3 to 4 years ago, when I started to grow breasts.  And that was way before I even knew what HTR was!  So, all this hair stuff is really foreign to me.  This intersex symptom of mine threw my entire biology out of whack.  It seems that I was supposed to be a girl, but somehow I was assigned to be a male with a very  girlish look to him all his life!

Quote from: Devlyn on January 05, 2019, 03:35:38 PM
Nope to the nope-th power! 

I am so in agreement with that.   Armpit hair?  I vote Nair!  Or actually just shaving it which I normally don't need to do very often.

I noticed nair leaves little hairs I have to shave after anyway. That's a bit annoying

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Quote from: Alice (nym) on January 09, 2019, 08:03:09 PM
Coming to the post late... so let's get the irrelevant stuff out of the way first... I am Nordic stock... I carry the Norwegian viking gene. Ironically (because he's a massive homo/trans phobe) my father has no body hair. I, however, have hair from nose/ears to toes and it is the bane of my life right now.

Shaving my legs gives me a chickenpox look for weeks after from ingrowing hairs. And the itching is just unbearable. I tired sugar waxing and that worked really nicely except that by the time I finished it had took all the skin off my finger tips. So that took a couple of weeks to heal by which time the hair was coming back.

At the moment I am just letting my skin heal from the last shaving... so I am back to hairy for now. The chemical solution is going to be next. I can more or less tolerate it on my body, legs, and even face because I don't see it all the time. It only really bothers me when I use the bathroom or look in a mirror. But my arms and hands are a constant daily battle. I epilate my arms daily and when it gets too much I just have to shave them because I just can't stand seeing just one hair on them. I spend hours just battling the hair on my arms.

Arm/hand hair is a major point of dysphoria for me. Not as bad as ticking the male/female box on forms but probably my third biggest source of dysphoria. So no laughing matter for me.

Oh now that IS interesting!  I'm Nordic stock too (Scottish Ancestry) but I have the Viking knuckle-lump on my palms but only slight.

I too get a really bad rash that lasts for ages after shaving my upper legs and the itching drives me mad, especially at the back of my knees!  Because I have quite long nails I very often draw blood scratching, which is not ideal.

Also, my father is less hairy than me which is very annoying but my mother is more hairy than usual for a lady, so thanks mom!!

p.s. it's a spanner.  and a Whitworth one at that! 

Since starting hrt a year and a half ago, my body hair has lessened considerably.  I have been epilating my arms, chest and legs for about a year and I'm certain that has played some part.
What does return is thin sparse areas that is removed monthly.
I had trimmed my pits at one point and had them waxed, yes ow!  But they are just shaved now.
My facial hair has only been impeded by electrolysis......that's a whole different can of worms!

Hugs and smiles from a California girl

Quote from: Jessica on January 16, 2019, 01:27:12 PM
Since starting hrt a year and a half ago, my body hair has lessened considerably.  I have been epilating my arms, chest and legs for about a year and I'm certain that has played some part.
What does return is thin sparse areas that is removed monthly.
I had trimmed my pits at one point and had them waxed, yes ow!  But they are just shaved now.
My facial hair has only been impeded by electrolysis......that's a whole different can of worms!

Hugs and smiles from a California girl

I am lucky that i don't have to deal with all that extra hair, because it decided to not use me as a host.
But I have a question about the facial hair.  Did the time it takes to regrow take longer now than prior to HRT?

I have to shave once or twice a week now, and I wonder, if that growth slows down even more with HRT, whether I want to go through all the electrolysis? Or I just have the area around my mouth done, which is the most visible.

Quote from: Jessica on January 16, 2019, 01:27:12 PM
Since starting hrt a year and a half ago, my body hair has lessened considerably. I have been epilating my arms, chest and legs for about a year and I'm certain that has played some part.
What does return is thin sparse areas that is removed monthly.
I had trimmed my pits at one point and had them waxed, yes ow!  But they are just shaved now.
My facial hair has only been impeded by electrolysis......that's a whole different can of worms!

Hugs and smiles from a California girl

@Jessica
Dear Jess:
I have had the same experience with HRT reducing and eventually in less than 2 years time it minimized my body hair significantly and all but eliminated my armpit hair entirely.   I no longer have to shave my arms, legs and some other areas.... as with my body hair, my face hair is very light and thin and is blonde in color,  shaving my face once month or so takes care of it easily. 
THANK YOU HRT !!!!
Hugs,
Danielle

@Dietlind @Alaskan Danielle

Quote from: Dietlind on January 16, 2019, 01:36:32 PM
I am lucky that i don't have to deal with all that extra hair, because it decided to not use me as a host.
But I have a question about the facial hair.  Did the time it takes to regrow take longer now than prior to HRT?

I have to shave once or twice a week now, and I wonder, if that growth slows down even more with HRT, whether I want to go through all the electrolysis? Or I just have the area around my mouth done, which is the most visible.

If it has, it hasn't been to a large degree. I still need to shave at least every two days.  Now where electrolysis has been applied, at the moment it takes far longer to reappear.  I am in the second clearing of my chin and lips.  It takes several clearings to have it entirely gone, so it's a work in progress.  It does make me a sight if I need to forgo shaving between electrolysis sessions, with an area hairless surrounded by stubble.  Oof!

Quote from: Alaskan Danielle on January 16, 2019, 01:38:20 PM
@Jessica
Dear Jess:
I have had the same experience with HRT reducing and eventually in less than 2 years time it minimized my body hair significantly and all but eliminated my armpit hair entirely.   I no longer have to shave my arms, legs and some other areas.... as with my body hair, my face hair is very light and thin and is blonde in color,  shaving my face once month or so takes care of it easily. 
THANK YOU HRT !!!!
Hugs,
Danielle

You are so lucky in regards to your facial hair.  So you didn't need electrolysis??

Quote from: Jessica on January 16, 2019, 01:46:25 PM
@Dietlind @Alaskan Danielle

If it has, it hasn't been to a large degree. I still need to shave at least every two days.  Now where electrolysis has been applied, at the moment it takes far longer to reappear.  I am in the second clearing of my chin and lips.  It takes several clearings to have it entirely gone, so it's a work in progress. It does make me a sight if I need to forgo shaving between electrolysis sessions, with an area hairless surrounded by stubble.  Oof!


You are so lucky in regards to your facial hair.  So you didn't need electrolysis??

@Jessica
Dear Jess:
Most definitely one of the downsides to Electrolysis...  going around looking quite feminine as you do with hair stubble on your face....
I was "allergic" to electrolysis in the sense that it horribly irritated and raised havoc with my skin....
and I was very glad that HRT pretty well took care of my face hair issues as I mentioned in my previous post reply.
Danielle

Quote from: Alaskan Danielle on January 16, 2019, 01:53:26 PM
@Jessica
Dear Jess:
Most definitely one of the downsides to Electrolysis...  going around looking quite feminine as you do with hair stubble on your face....
I was "allergic" to electrolysis in the sense that it horribly irritated and raised havoc with my skin....
and I was very glad that HRT pretty well took care of my face hair issues as I mentioned in my previous post reply.
Danielle

Danielle
Can you remember how much facial hair growth you had prior to HRT?  Mine is basically colorless, not even real white, and as I said I don't need to shave a lot, if I shave twice a week, I do  it for myself, because of the sandpaper feeling.  for cosmetic reason I need to shave only once weekly, and that is prior to HRT.  If an orchi and HRT would reduce the growth frequency even more, I would safe the money, and spare myself the pain (because I am a wimpy sissy when it comes to pain).

Quote from: Dietlind on January 16, 2019, 02:02:12 PM
Danielle
Can you remember how much facial hair growth you had prior to HRT?  Mine is basically colorless, not even real white, and as I said I don't need to shave a lot, if I shave twice a week, I do  it for myself, because of the sandpaper feeling.  for cosmetic reason I need to shave only once weekly, and that is prior to HRT.  If an orchi and HRT would reduce the growth frequency even more, I would safe the money, and spare myself the pain (because I am a wimpy sissy when it comes to pain).

@Dietlind:
Prior to transitioning I seldom had to shave because my hair was thin and light in color blonde so it was not as apparent as darker and thicker hair and did not grow very fast.....  then thankfully HRT did the rest.  All of that was obviously an advantage to me when I decided to transition.
Danielle

Quote from: Alaskan Danielle on January 16, 2019, 02:43:01 PM
@Dietlind:
Prior to transitioning I seldom had to shave because my hair was thin and light in color blonde so it was not as apparent as darker and thicker hair and did not grow very fast.....  then thankfully HRT did the rest.  All of that was obviously an advantage to me when I decided to transition.
Danielle

Thank you Danielle
This makes me to really want to wait a little longer, or just have the upper lip and hin area done, and call it good!
If I can get along with shaving less than once a week, I can live with it, and keep investing my money into the fine products of the Gillette company!

Quote from: Alaskan Danielle on January 16, 2019, 02:43:01 PM. . . hair was thin and light in color blonde

Dirty blond here . . . with unintentional white and grey streaks Dietlind been researching hair types and phases. One can STOP vellus hair from growing completely with Casodex but once it turns to terminal, colored hair retarding growth becomes more of a mystery being dependant on size and depth of root bulb?

Why would dark chest and armpit hair go away but not beard, pubic and head hair?

I'm in the shave camp. I've been shaving my pits for longer than I can remember. It's also more hygienic as you don't have all that hair to collect sweat and smell. 

Quote from: Chloe on January 16, 2019, 04:38:54 PM
Dirty blond here . . . with unintentional white and grey streaks Dietlind been researching hair types and phases. One can STOP vellus hair from growing completely with Casodex but once it turns to terminal, colored hair retarding growth becomes more of a mystery being dependant on size and depth of root bulb?

Why would dark chest and armpit hair go away but not beard, pubic and head hair?

My thing is that my hairy situation is different that the one for most of you.  I never had body hair (no arm or leg hair, or arm pit hair either), and only some pubic hair growing in a definit female pattern (no growth up toward the belly button). I have no hair loss , bald spots or receding hair line on my head either, and I also have no Adams Apple.  The only clearly male identifying indicators of my body are my genitals, and my facial (sparsely) hair growth.
I almost have the feeling that those beard hair follicles must have found a little bit of testosterone and decided to party with it!

I'm kinda lucky I guess, never had much body hair but still have a pretty full head of hair

My armpit hair is sparse and hardly noticeable but I wax it from time to time anyway because I notice - Either that or I'm a masochist LOL

There are some cultures who find pit hair attractive - Okay, whatever floats your boat dear