Quote from: Kylo on January 22, 2019, 09:39:59 AM
I wondered this too. It does often look unnatural and "over full". Some people want this look, but I'd rather be flat as a pancake than have ones that look like a pair of ping pong balls.

The best example for this is a sister in law of mine.  She is a thin, petite person with breasts that did fit her petite frame pretty well.  Until she decided she wanted bigger boobs.  She go them done, and no it looks like somebody had nailed two soft balls onto a flat board!

Maybe it's just me, but this thread feels a bit like an in-clique ragging on the choices made by other women.

That might not be the best possible thing for trans folks to be doing.

Quote from: Michelle_P on January 22, 2019, 09:07:39 PM
Maybe it's just me, but this thread feels a bit like an in-clique ragging on the choices made by other women.

That might not be the best possible thing for trans folks to be doing.

I think you are a little to sensitive here, because nobody is talking down augmentations.  Just criticizing those that look way to artificial.
And I really like them, because the more are done, the better my pension is secured!

Quote from: Michelle_P on January 22, 2019, 09:07:39 PM
Maybe it's just me, but this thread feels a bit like an in-clique ragging on the choices made by other women.

That might not be the best possible thing for trans folks to be doing.

I was thinking this is a normal conversation I've had with my female coworkers. [emoji13]

It's definitely a different strokes for different folks sort of thing. Some women like the fake look, others don't.

I am at 51 days and Dr. Ley did an amazing job, they look natural and not hard. I have done my part with the massage, pull, tug, push, squeeze and vitamin E. The pain is 100% gone now and went without a bra or a band for a few hours yesterday, they bounced, I smiled. I am super happy with the results, they look a little younger than I am chronologically, I however look younger (such a blessing) I did an appraisal this weekend and the home owner was... "Margaret my dear just think in 20 years we can be neighbors! 55+ community  Unless you want to just move in with me *wink*) " I told him I could move in tomorrow... poor guy, showed him my ID, he saw I was the same age lol! He proceeded to call six of his neighbors over and did the how old do you think she is game? Hell this became a I might be passing well enough post. None got it right and the four women wanted to know my secret... I just said weekly estrogen injections  

Quote from: Michelle_P on January 22, 2019, 09:07:39 PM
Maybe it's just me, but this thread feels a bit like an in-clique ragging on the choices made by other women.

That might not be the best possible thing for trans folks to be doing.

Women are making choices within the confines of limited, and I would argue crude, surgical technique. Hell it even has to be replaced every decade. The breast enhancement of the future won't be surgery, it will be injections of stem cells.

Quote from: JMJW on January 23, 2019, 04:52:16 PM
Women are making choices within the confines of limited, and I would argue crude, surgical technique. Hell it even has to be replaced every decade. The breast enhancement of the future won't be surgery, it will be injections of stem cells.

That would be nice.

I'm 65 now.  I figure that given the time to invent and refine a technique, figure out how to reliably make safe cellular changes to drive this enhancement, sort of a super CRISPR for anybody's genome, develop it as a production technique, conduct clinical trials for safety and efficacy, make needed changes as appropriate, obtain FDA approval as a cosmetic technique, and bring it to market, I'll be 85-90.

I think I'll go with the gel implants for now, and maybe upgrade sometime down the road, m'kay?

Quote from: JMJW on January 23, 2019, 04:52:16 PM
Women are making choices within the confines of limited, and I would argue crude, surgical technique. Hell it even has to be replaced every decade. The breast enhancement of the future won't be surgery, it will be injections of stem cells.

By the time that technology actually rolls around, all current surgery techniques will be considered crude - including SRS. As has been explained, it's possible to hang implants that have a natural look and feel, it just depends on the surgeon and what the patient wants. I sense an axe being ground somewhere and I'm wondering why.

I wonder how many women scrutinize things the way we do.

I'm very interest in fat transfer. It doesnt have the problems of implants, but is expensive and has a relatively limited size increase.

BA is a normally cosmetic procedure that isn't covered by insurance and women still get paid less than men, so cost is a big issue.

Quote from: Michelle_P on January 22, 2019, 09:07:39 PM
Maybe it's just me, but this thread feels a bit like an in-clique ragging on the choices made by other women.

That might not be the best possible thing for trans folks to be doing.

I agree. Not to sound preachy but maybe some women actually like and strive to get the "fake" and exaggerated look? There's an appeal to the plastic over-the-top aesthetic for some people and it's completely respectable .

Like the old adage says, "beauty is in the eye of the beholder." I personally do not like or expect perfection. Maybe I have low standards, but as people, we are all flawed and to expect differently is silly to me.

As a transwoman, I just want to fit in the best I can. Perfection is far from what I want and there is really no way for me to achieve it anyway. Some ciswomen are naturally close to perfect and I don't judge them for that. If I were them I probably would go down that path.

To each their own. I want natural looks breasts and if I get implants even if that means I have small breasts.

I think there are a lot of ways to view this, and there is a difference between the various generations and types of implants. I had latest generation textured round gel implants installed in early October. They are still settling but past the "torpedo boob" phase and I cannot remember what it was like without them. For me, my breast growth stunted and the implants were more affirming than grs because it helped my self esteem and misgendering nearly went away over night.

RealSelf is a great resource to see before and after and everything in between with various size, shapes, manufacturers, etc. when I was doing my research I did not see a lot that looked solid unless the woman went huge and many seemed to want that look. My surgeon said that is a desirable look on the west coast of the us.

To me the only thing I don't like is my cleavage is further apart than I'd like, so at the gym I fee a bit self conscious because they aren't necessarily squished together as much as natural breasts would be.

They are not as soft as I would like and I think that is probably partly due to the under muscle placement. They are "fluffing" as they say but will never be the same as natural. But they do not look like rocks on my chest either, unless I wear something super tight in which they get pushed up. Then you can sort of see the outlines. Size relative to the breast pocket also has a lot to do with it - I went with the largest that fit. I could have gone bigger, but at 34DD not sure that would have looked good, and that's when they would get the Super fakey look since they would be bigger than the breast pocket, so there would not be much breast tissue covering them.

A trans woman I know who had the exact same dimensions (within 1mm) went 75cc smaller and reports they are very soft, so size definitely has something to do with it. Same surgeon, same everything.

Quote from: jill610 on January 25, 2019, 06:06:57 AM

I could have gone bigger, but at 34DD not sure that would have looked good, and that's when they would get the Super fakey look since they would be bigger than the breast pocket, so there would not be much breast tissue covering them.

And again, the size is always a relation to the bandwidth.  My breasts fill very well the cup of a 34 B bra , but my bandwidth is 40, and at 40 I have a hard time to fill an A size cup!  A 40 B is so large that I could put both of my boobs into one cup and use the other side for grocery shopping!
Your 34 DD might just fill a solid B or C cup in a 40 bandwidth, and would not look that big at all!
I assume a person with a 40 size bandwidth might have bigger breast pockets than one with a 34 size bandwidth (just simply because the chest is wider), and more boob augmentation would fit into this.

I feel, in the real world, one can only compare breasts sizes of the same bandwidth with each other.

Quote from: Dietlind on January 25, 2019, 07:38:50 AM
And again, the size is always a relation to the bandwidth.  My breasts fill very well the cup of a 34 B bra , but my bandwidth is 40, and at 40 I have a hard time to fill an A size cup!  A 40 B is so large that I could put both of my boobs into one cup and use the other side for grocery shopping!
Your 34 DD might just fill a solid B or C cup in a 40 bandwidth, and would not look that big at all!
I assume a person with a 40 size bandwidth might have bigger breast pockets than one with a 34 size bandwidth (just simply because the chest is wider), and more boob augmentation would fit into this.

I feel, in the real world, one can only compare breasts sizes of the same bandwidth with each other.

I think we are saying the same thing?

It's a proportion. A C cup is 3" of volume (bust - band =2.5-3.5), D is 4" and so on.

The breast pocket as I understand it is relative to the width of the rib cage and connective tissue. If your 40 is because of fat (not implying it is) but your actual rib cage is 3" narrower, then the pocket would be maybe the same as me at 34 with similar skeletal dimensions. They make high profile and other sizes to fit more projection in a smaller pocket as well.

I am a large 34DD or small 36DD, so sistering for me doesn't work great. A 36D is a little small, so in a 40 I would be a small 40C.

Quote from: jill610 on January 25, 2019, 07:52:07 AM. A 36D is a little small, so in a 40 I would be a small 40C.

And that is the size I hope I can get with a normal breast growth.  The size I have was achieved prior to HRT, and I hope that estrogen gives me the boost to get a 40 C.  Both, my mother and my sister, were pretty well endowed, and I hope that I got the same breast growth genes they had.

I had 555 cc cohesive silicone (gummy bear implants). They were implanted partially under the muscle; as far under the muscle as Dr. McGinn could get them.

Sometimes I think there are not big enough and other times I think they are very big.

I had no capsular contraction and I am soft.

I really like my boobs. My body dictated that the boobs do not have cleavage. If I were to get another implant I would go with 800 cc wide implants to place them closer together. My insurance already cleared me for the 2nd implants with a letter from the doctor. My reservation is I am thinking 800cc may be too big. I may discuss it with Dr. McGinn.

Anyhow, my boobs look natural to me and feel soft. If I go bigger I run the risk of looking fake. I got a compliment today in the gym by another woman about my body and another compliment by another woman about my hair. Very unexpected.

@Rachel,

I think it's a normal thing to feel small some days and huge others. Or at least I go through that. Today is a small day.

I used a surgeon in Doylestown who is best of mainline and is INN with IBX, and the issue with going wider is that they wander into the armpits and the space between pockets (cleavage) doesn't change, according to him. The risk is creating a uniboob. I wanted 550 mid projection to get more fullness but they were slightly (2mm) wider than the pocket and so went with 505 high profile. I am interested to hear what you end up doing with this.