It's not getting much play in the media, but I just found this gem buried deep inside a larger Quinnipiac opinion poll surveying a number of issues (Trump approval/disapproval, government shutdown, border wall, etc.).  The poll was released this morning:

January 29, 2019 - U.S. Voters Trust Pelosi More Than Trump On Big Issues, Quinnipiac University National Poll Finds; 2-1 Support For No-Wall Border Solution

Quinnipiac University Poll

https://poll.qu.edu/national/release-detail?ReleaseID=2596

"Transgender People in the Military

"American voters say 70 - 22 percent that transgender people should be allowed to serve in the military. The only listed group opposed to this is Republicans, opposed 50 - 40 percent.

"From January 25 - 28, Quinnipiac University surveyed 1,004 voters nationwide with a margin of error of +/- 3.7 percentage points, including the design effect."

I suggest going to the site and looking at the figures in sections 10, 11, and 12, which deal broadly with issues about trans acceptance - broken down by political affiliation, age, sex, race, educational level.  Very interesting figures!

Thank you reporting that.  That's certainly reassuring. 

Oh, those are the people who bug me all the time. I just put my phone down and let them talk to themselves. Makes them happy thinking they are talking to somebody and it makes me happy not having to listen to a bunch of dumb questions. I remind you about Dewey and Truman. That type of survey isn't very accurate because the knowledgable probably don't want to answer a bunch of questions and those who aren't are willing to talk their head off.

Quote from: Dena on January 29, 2019, 11:09:49 PM
That type of survey isn't very accurate because the knowledgable probably don't want to answer a bunch of questions and those who aren't are willing to talk their head off.

I beg to differ.  1,004 randomly-selected voters nationwide can give a pretty accurate picture of opinion, depending on the method used.  And naturally, persons who don't answer or decline to participate are not reflected in the polling results.  Here is how Quinnipiac conducted this specific survey:

QuoteThis RDD telephone survey was conducted from January 25 – 28, 2019 throughout the nation.

Responses are reported for 1,004 self-identified registered voters with a margin of sampling error of +/- 3.7 percentage points, including the design effect. Margins of sampling error for subgroups are available upon request.

Surveys are conducted in English or Spanish dependent on respondent preference with live interviewers calling landlines and cell phones.

All data was collected and tabulated by the Quinnipiac University Poll.

PARTY IDENTIFICATION QUESTION WORDING - Generally speaking, do you consider yourself a Republican, a Democrat, an Independent, or what?
                            REGISTERED VOTERS
PARTY IDENTIFICATION
Republican                 26%
Democrat                   30
Independent                37
Other/DK/NA                 7

METHODOLOGICAL DETAILS
Dual frame landline and cell phone samples are generated using Random Digit Dialing procedures by Survey Sampling International (SSI). Both the landline and cellular phone samples are stratified by Census division according to area code.

Landline numbers and cell phone numbers are scheduled for 5+ call attempts. When calling landlines interviewers ask to speak with the adult member of the household having the next birthday. Interviews are conducted on cell phones with both cell only and dual owner respondents. The complete land and cell sample is weighted to National Health Interview Survey estimates for [land only/cell only/dual owner] households.

Questions are asked as they appear in the release document. If a question is asked of a subset of the sample, a descriptive note is added in parentheses preceding the question. Questions are numbered as asked with additional questions found in successive releases.

This survey uses statistical weighting procedures to account for deviations in the survey sample from known population characteristics, which helps correct for differential survey participation and random variation in samples. The overall adult sample is weighted to recent Census data using a sample balancing procedure to match the demographic makeup of the population by region, gender, age, education and race.

Polls are funded entirely by Quinnipiac University. The Quinnipiac University Poll is part of the Department of Public Affairs.

https://poll.qu.edu/images/polling/us/us01292019_demos_urya62.pdf/

This shows very good attention to polling methodology with respect to random selection of subjects and normalization of responses to correspond with the actual demographics of the U.S. population.

Polling organizations, of course, vary widely as to quality and accuracy.  Generally speaking, Quinnipiac is highly regarded.  Fivethirtyeight.com, which tracks and analyzes polls from dozens of polling organizations, rates Quinnipiac's methodology and accuracy with an overall grade of "A-".

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/pollster-ratings/?ex_cid=irpromo

In short, I think the numbers reported here are pretty correct.

Consider that older people tend to be more conserve and less attached to their phones. Many including me are on the do not call list, something which these people may be ignoring. When we receive poll request, we may politely or rudely turn down the request. Older people are more likely to vote when the election is boring.

Personally I only use the phone about an hour a month and almost all of that is responding to spam calls. The only reason I answer those calls is I expect calls from three possible people and I don't know their phone numbers. One of these days I hope to block all calls other than those in my address book.

I question the methodology of the poll as 1000 people boils down to 20 people per state. Over all, I hope they aren't teaching this as a proper way to run a poll as the information is probably pretty useless.

Quote from: Dena on January 30, 2019, 10:12:44 PM
Consider that older people tend to be more conserve and less attached to their phones. Many including me are on the do not call list, something which these people may be ignoring. When we receive poll request, we may politely or rudely turn down the request. Older people are more likely to vote when the election is boring.

Personally I only use the phone about an hour a month and almost all of that is responding to spam calls. The only reason I answer those calls is I expect calls from three possible people and I don't know their phone numbers. One of these days I hope to block all calls other than those in my address book.

I question the methodology of the poll as 1000 people boils down to 20 people per state. Over all, I hope they aren't teaching this as a proper way to run a poll as the information is probably pretty useless.

I think it is not right to just consider all older people to be not attached to their cell phone.  All my friends and I use our phones a lot. It is our vehicle for communicating with each other.
My experience with older people and their phone is absolutely the opposite of yours!  And I live in the waiting room to heaven, with almost all older people living here.  I am a member of a large sociopolitical organization, and I would not know anybody of my acquaintances who are not using their phone a lot!

In summary, I would say that older people are as much attached to their phone as are younger people!

Well, I must say, when I started this thread, I did not anticipate that it would turn into a discussion of the respective telephone habits of young people and old people.

To redirect it to the subject of the thread, here are the findings of the Quinnipiac survey (sections 10, 11, and 12) that relate to trans people and the level of acceptance of trans folks by the general community.  To me, the results are better than I had expected:

10. How accepting do you think the U.S. is of transgender people today; very accepting, somewhat accepting, not so accepting, or not accepting at all?
                                                             
                                                                           WHITE.....      COLLEGE DEG
                                   Tot    Rep    Dem    Ind       Men    Wom    Yes     No
Very accepting              9%    15%     2%   11%    11%     8%     8%    11%
Somewhat accepting     56       62       54     53        56      56       53       57
Not so accepting           23       12       32     23        21      25       28       19
Not accepting at all         8        7         8       8          8        8        9         7
DK/NA                           4        5         3       4          4        4        2         6

                                  AGE IN YRS..............          WHITE.....
                                  18-34  35-49  50-64   65+    Men    Wom    Wht     Blk     Hsp
Very accepting                6%     11%     8%   11%    12%     7%      9%     8%     9%
Somewhat accepting       58        50      61      53       55       55       55      59      60
Not so accepting             28        26      20      19       21       26       24      25      17
Not accepting at all           5         9        7      10         8         8         8        6       5
DK/NA                             3         4        4        6         4         4         4        1      10

TREND: How accepting do you think the U.S. is of transgender people today; very accepting, somewhat accepting, not so accepting, or not accepting at all?
                          Very    Smwht   Not so   Not acpt
                         accpt      accpt    accpt    at all       DK/NA
Jan 29, 2019          9           56         23        8          4
Aug 03, 2017          9           51         27       10          4
Mar 08, 2017         12          51         25         8          4


11. Do you think more acceptance of transgender people would be a good thing for the country, a bad thing for the country, or do you think that it would not make much difference either way?
                                                                             WHITE.....         COLLEGE DEG
                                    Tot     Rep       Dem    Ind    Men    Wom      Yes     No
Good thing                    42%    15%    68%    42%    37%    46%    51%    33%
Bad thing                      12        30        2         8       12       12       10       22
Not much difference       42        50      28       46       46       38       36       42
DK/NA                            4          6        2        4         5         4         4         4

                                 AGE IN YRS..............            WHITE.....
                                 18-34  35-49  50-64   65+     Men    Wom    Wht      Blk     Hsp
Good thing                   54%    48%    37%   35%    37%    47%    42%    38%    42%
Bad thing                       7       12       14      16        14       17        15        8         1
Not much difference      37       37       46      44        45       34        39       51       49
DK/NA                           3         4         3       5         5         2          4         3         8

TREND: Do you think more acceptance of transgender people would be a good thing for the country, a bad thing for the country, or do you think that it would not make much difference either way?
                            Good    Bad     NotMuch
                            thing   thing     diff           DK/NA
Jan 29, 2019            42       12        42           4
Aug 03, 2017            46       14        39           2
Mar 08, 2017            41       14        42           3


12. Do you think transgender people should be allowed to serve in the military or not?
                                                                   WHITE......      COLLEGE DEG
                            Tot    Rep    Dem    Ind      Men    Wom     Yes      No
Yes/Allowed          70%   40%   94%    75%    67%    73%     71%    62%
No                        22     50        3        16       26       18        21       31
DK/NA                    8     10        2          9        7         8          8         7

                        AGE IN YRS..............            WHITE.....
                        18-34  35-49   50-64    65+     Men    Wom     Wht      Blk      Hsp
Yes/Allowed         86%    74%    65%    65%    64%    68%    66%    90%    72%
No                      11       20        27       25       29       24       26        8        13
DK/NA                  4         6         9        10        7         8         8        2        15

TREND: Do you think transgender people should be allowed to serve in the military or not?
                          Yes/   
                          Allowed     No      DK/NA
Jan 29, 2019         70           22         8
Aug 03, 2017        68           27         5

https://poll.qu.edu/national/release-detail?ReleaseID=2596


What struck me as remarkable in the results is that in every segment of society surveyed (except ONE!), better and more accepting attitudes towards trans folks are more prevalent than hostile attitudes.

The ONE exception is respondents who self-described as Republicans.  Every other segment surveyed (whether broken down by race, age, or education) believe that trans folks should be allowed to serve openly in the military.  Republicans are the ONLY exception.

Republicans are also an outlier in another respect.  When the survey asks whether greater acceptance of trans people would be a good thing or a bad thing, 30% of Republicans believe it's a BAD thing, compared to 15% who believe it's a GOOD thing.  Republicans are the ONLY group surveyed that shows this "upside-down" result.

QuoteRepublicans are the ONLY group surveyed that shows this "upside-down" result.

I provided a link in another thread that might explain why that is.  Here's the link again:

https://www.thestar.com/news/world/us/2019/01/30/god-wanted-trump-to-be-president-sarah-sanders-says.html

The Republicans are controlled by evangelical Christians.  They are generally a group that's bigoted against other groups, including other Christians.  They are also the ones Barry Goldwater spoke out against:

Quote
"Mark my word, if and when these preachers get control of the
[Republican] party, and they're sure trying to do so, it's going to be a
terrible damn problem. Frankly, these people frighten me. Politics and
governing demand compromise. But these Christians believe they are
acting in the name of God, so they can't and won't compromise. I know,
I've tried to deal with them."

Well, he was right and they are the problem.

By the way: ANOTHER poll released this morning about trans military service.

Poll: Most oppose President Trump's transgender military ban

TheHill.com
1/31/2019

https://thehill.com/hilltv/what-americas-thinking/427888-poll-most-americans-oppose-president-trumps-transgender

"Most Americans oppose President Trump's decision to ban transgender or transitioning people from the armed services, according to a new poll released as the administration moves forward with the policy.

"Fifty-nine percent of registered voters in the latest The Hill-HarrisX survey said that they opposed President Trump's decision, compared to just 41 percent who said they favored the idea.

"A strong majority of female voters, 68 percent, said they were against banning transgender service members while men were split, with 51 percent favoring the policy.

"Sixty-nine percent of Republicans backed Trump's policy while just 31 percent opposed it. A larger percentage of Democrats — 84 percent — oppose the ban, while just 16 percent of Democrats back it.

"Independent voters also oppose the ban, at 56-44 percent. . . ."

Quote"A strong majority of female voters, 68 percent, said they were against banning transgender service members while men were split, with 51 percent favoring the policy.

"Sixty-nine percent of Republicans backed Trump's policy while just 31 percent opposed it. A larger percentage of Democrats — 84 percent — oppose the ban, while just 16 percent of Democrats back it.

And from the article I linked to:

QuoteIn a new Washington Post-ABC poll, Republicans and white evangelical Protestants were the only segments of the U.S. population in which a majority said they would "definitely" support the president in 2020. Fifty-six per cent of all Americans said they would definitely not support Trump if he's the GOP nominee again, the poll found.

Coincidence?

They are the ones driving the anti-gay, anti-LGBQT agenda, among other anti agendas.

Barry Goldwater certainly called this one.

Quote from: itsApril on January 31, 2019, 02:10:52 PM

The ONE exception is respondents who self-described as Republicans.  Every other segment surveyed (whether broken down by race, age, or education) believe that trans folks should be allowed to serve openly in the military.  Republicans are the ONLY exception.

And this correlates exactly with my personal experience.  The only friends who did not accept my transgender status after coming out to them, was an older, republican and evangelical couple.  They are of the opinion that somebody got this idea into me and I just need the right medication to become the "manly man" again who I used to be!

They do not accept my explanation that I was born intersex, and never ever was a manly man, but just faked one!