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Perspective change on breasts?

Started by HappyMoni, February 28, 2019, 05:16:25 PM

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NatalieRene

Quote from: Dietlind on March 09, 2019, 10:46:45 PM
Yeah, and mine are still growing.  I am a 40 B already!  I hope, I will not get some DDD or similar size boobs.  I would be so out of trend!

I don't think any of us have to worry about getting DDD breasts.Although if chest shrinks from HRT (depending on how much fat and muscle you have in that region you might end up with a C cup.
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krobinson103

Quote from: NatalieRene on March 10, 2019, 01:30:33 PM
I don't think any of us have to worry about getting DDD breasts.Although if chest shrinks from HRT (depending on how much fat and muscle you have in that region you might end up with a C cup.

You can get more. I got to D already and DD is not out of the picture given its been a year and a half. So nothing is impossible... though DDD is neither wanted or likely!
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Linde

Quote from: NatalieRene on March 10, 2019, 01:30:33 PM
I don't think any of us have to worry about getting DDD breasts.Although if chest shrinks from HRT (depending on how much fat and muscle you have in that region you might end up with a C cup.
I am humble, I would be very fine with a nicely filled C cup!
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HappyMoni

So I had my bra sizing yesterday. They said I was a 36 DD, but I found the band too tight. That brings me to a 38 D. I ended up getting some push up bras. I now realize that breast enhancement with implants under the muscle make it very hard to get cleavage that is real close together. The advantage to under the muscle is not really needing a bra if I don't want. Also less chance of capsular contracture. Negative is the lack of motion, in this case getting cleavage with a push up bra. Still love em.
More to my original point, I went with a friend. We were both in the dressing room and saw each other's breasts. There was a time I would have had a different reaction to seeing hers. Now it really means nothing but trying on clothes with maybe a comparison of how mine look compared. I am no longer jealous of others, nor do I desire other women's boobs. What a difference a transition makes!
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HRT June 11, 2015. (new birthday) - FFS in late June 2016. (Dr. _____=Ugh!) - Full time June 18, 2016 (Yeah! finally) - GCS June 27, 2017. (McGinn=Yeah!) - Under Eye repair from FFS 8/17/17 - Nose surgery-November 20, 2017 (Dr. Papel=Yeah) - Hair Transplant on June 21, 2018 (Dr. Cooley-yeah) - Breast Augmentation on July 10, 2018 (Dr. Basner in Baltimore) - Removed bad scarring from FFS surgery near ears and hairline in August, 2018 (Dr. Papel) -Sept. 2018, starting a skin regiment on face with Retin A  April 2019 -repairing neck scar from FFS

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KimOct

Happy for you Moni - it sounds like a fun and validating day.   :)

My breast story kinda sucks.  I have enough in the way of breasts to legitmately say I have breasts but that's about it.

Definitely different than my former man boobs but yeesch. ( Did I just make up a word?)

Not sure my path here.  My estrogen was increased from 1/6 to 1/3 a few months ago so maybe I will get a little more growth.  I ordered that stupid boob pump 10 days ago and from the shipping tracker it has been sitting at the Chicago postal facility for a week.

What the hell?  Don't they know they are holding my boobs hostage?   :D ;D >:(

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SadieBlake

Quote from: HappyMoni on March 17, 2019, 04:59:03 PM
More to my original point, I went with a friend. We were both in the dressing room and saw each other's breasts. There was a time I would have had a different reaction to seeing hers. Now it really means nothing but trying on clothes with maybe a comparison of how mine look compared. I am no longer jealous of others, nor do I desire other women's boobs. What a difference a transition makes!
Moni

Haha! I still desire other women's boobs .. I guess it's the gay identified thing :-).

My dressing with other women recently was during the vagina monologues dress rehearsal and performances, 4 nights of disrobing, doing makeup etc with some 40+ other women (all undergrads, with me being the exception as a staff member, 40 years their senior).

Yes they're all spectacular women, no I wasn't perving, just doing my own bit of changing into my outfit and being respectful that this is what we do because there's no real practical alternative.

Certainly we exposed more of our selves during rehearsals, bonding exercises and of course the performances, naked bodies were the least of it.

Glad you're happy with the girls Moni, isn't bra-fit an art?
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Rayna

I'm pre-everything, but got my small boobs mostly from weight lifting plus a little fat. No nipples of course. My band is 38 or 40, and with that, my cup size is like AAA lol. But if I was a 34, I'd have solid A's. It's enough that when I wear the right clingy tops they look reasonable. A friend of my wife's who knows about me glimpsed me in a t-shirt the other day and asked my wife if I was wearing a bra. I'm happy to hear that!

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KimOct

So the Boob Pump thing showed up today.  It took 12 days.  What the hell?  I feel like an idiot for even admitting that I bought it, but - I did.  I am not delusional I am only hoping for a half cup of any real growth.  Half cup for $90 what the heck?

So I put it together - embarrassingly.  It should have been so simple - I am NOT mechanically inclined.  I must be a girl.
LOL That was a joke - no letters please.  :D

Anyway - I try it out.  Damn, it really does pull on your boobs you can see it sucking them up through the cones.
And they were swollen and temporarily bigger.  The owner manual said the swelling growth only lasts a couple hours - not even that.  Real growth is supposed to start in 6 weeks.  We'll see.  I will be the guinea pig/moron.  ::)
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Linde

@ Kim
Do they make claims for nipple/areola growth? 
There seems to be a point in natural breast growth, at which the nipples/areolas grow more than the breast.  I seem to be at that point currently, and my areolas are now about 2 1/2" diameter, and the nipples are about 1/2" diameter.  I wonder if hey stop growing now, because they are large enough for my taste!
I wonder now if the pump will give you similar results?
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Tribble

Couple of things...from talking to many other people about boobs, natal women and girls and gay men included, more people are attracted to breasts than some people may think!  Not necessarily a sexual attraction, but more of a strong fascination with them (on other women).

I had high hopes that I might end up as a C cup as I always heard that I could expect about a cup size less than my closest female family member (mom).  Sadly, I waited a few years too long and I would be more than happy with a B cup, today.  I'm around an A, but due to my shape, I don't even fill that fully.

Nipples...I'm stuck in the middle of development and will most likely never advance from here.  Puffy nipples.  Areola and all.  The one time I've gone in for a mammogram the technician asked me about my nipples and she was surprised when I told her that it due to my transness.  Ugh.  Wish I hadn't said anything now.

I did purchase nipple suction cups a long, long time ago, but was too embarrassed to use them, even around my husband who is fully supportive.  My ex-girlfriend also bought them, but she actually used them.  They did wonders for her!  She was in the same position as I am but now is more than satisfied with her nips.

I should also mention that I found out after my mammogram that, while my boobs are small, they're very dense.  Not as firm as my ex-girlfriend's, but the clinic wrote that I needed to be careful as their machines couldn't necessarily conclusively determine if there were any lumps due to the density of my breast tissue.  Actually, mine are pretty soft and squishy and I'm surprised to hear that they're so dense that the clinic felt they needed to say something.  Maybe my prior gynecomastia had something to do with it.
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2019 -- Rebuilding my wardrobe so I can retransition.  Turns out I cain't bury my true self, after all.  I call these last few years my failed experiment.  At least I found my true feelings were real.
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Faith

I've kind of read around this topic. I must say, yes, my perspective has changed. I can now look down and see them rather than having to look elsewhere. And, yes, I still like them on other people.

Strange thing, I must be an odd one (no comments!!). I've read around the forums and elsewhere of 'playing with your own' etc ... I don't do that. Is that weird? unnatural?  I do scratch them when they itch (daily, hourly!!), that's it though. I do know that I like having them there. I'd guess that ~80% of my dysphoria eased when they sprouted.
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Linde

Quote from: Faith on March 20, 2019, 01:11:57 PM
And, yes, I still like them on other people.

Strange thing, I must be an odd one (no comments!!). I've read around the forums and elsewhere of 'playing with your own' etc ... I don't do that. Is that weird? unnatural?  I do scratch them when they itch (daily, hourly!!), that's it though. I do know that I like having them there.
I am pretty much like you, I like mine, and have an Ok size now (I still wish they will grow another cup size), but I don't "play" with them either.  Sometimes, when laying in bed on one side, I have to push them into a little more comfortable position, but I would not call that playing.
To be true, my nipples hurt to much to invite any playing with them, I am pretty happy when I can leave them alone.
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Tribble

Quote from: Faith on March 20, 2019, 01:11:57 PM
I've kind of read around this topic. I must say, yes, my perspective has changed. I can now look down and see them rather than having to look elsewhere. And, yes, I still like them on other people.

Strange thing, I must be an odd one (no comments!!). I've read around the forums and elsewhere of 'playing with your own' etc ... I don't do that. Is that weird? unnatural?  I do scratch them when they itch (daily, hourly!!), that's it though. I do know that I like having them there. I'd guess that ~80% of my dysphoria eased when they sprouted.

You're not alone.  Mine aren't a source of arousal or any sort of non-affirming pleasure.  I did try, but I didn't get much out of them.  If I do anything other than scratch an itch or rub soreness (not often lately), it's for the pleasure of whomever my partner is.

I've had overly-sensitive nipples since my teenage years.  Not pleasurable, either.  They're so sensitive that touching them in any way other than just pressing toward my chest is annoying at best to almost painful at worst.  My husband tried for years to desensitize them (against my will and I said so every time), but it hasn't helped.
2003-2004 -- Gradual transition -- I didn't correct pronouns and people basically settled on the right ones on their own.
late 2004 -- Orchiectomy.
Late 2015 -- Stupidly saw the political climate and spurned on by my husband's request for a divorce I detransitioned.
2019 -- Rebuilding my wardrobe so I can retransition.  Turns out I cain't bury my true self, after all.  I call these last few years my failed experiment.  At least I found my true feelings were real.
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Faith

Quote from: Tribble on March 20, 2019, 02:08:39 PM
You're not alone.  Mine aren't a source of arousal or any sort of non-affirming pleasure.  I did try, but I didn't get much out of them.  If I do anything other than scratch an itch or rub soreness (not often lately), it's for the pleasure of whomever my partner is.

I've had overly-sensitive nipples since my teenage years.  Not pleasurable, either.  They're so sensitive that touching them in any way other than just pressing toward my chest is annoying at best to almost painful at worst.  My husband tried for years to desensitize them (against my will and I said so every time), but it hasn't helped.

I'm sorry that yours go beyond 'feel good'. My wife is sensitive. She can do without or an extremely light touch and that's it. My knees don't tickle, they go straight to over intense and pain. I will smack you if you touch them. I'd assume that feeling is similar.

As for me, I enjoy nipple play time very much *gasp* ;D just not if I do it myself. No interest in self pleasure.
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Rayna

When my wife was pregnant, or sometimes at her period, she could only handle gentle licking and blowing on them. But she did like that :)

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KimOct

Quote from: Dietlind on March 19, 2019, 10:00:40 PM
@ Kim
Do they make claims for nipple/areola growth? 
There seems to be a point in natural breast growth, at which the nipples/areolas grow more than the breast.  I seem to be at that point currently, and my areolas are now about 2 1/2" diameter, and the nipples are about 1/2" diameter.  I wonder if hey stop growing now, because they are large enough for my taste!
I wonder now if the pump will give you similar results?


First - Sorry Moni for derailing your thread.  :(  Just say the word boobs to women and the topic takes off.  Say it to transwomen - now you've done it.  :D

Linde - The pump I bought doesn't say much about areolas ( spell check doesn't even know lol ) but the website had a different product to make them BIGGER which is not what you want.  As for this pump it doesn't say much.

I don't know if it is OK to mention product names so feel free admins to delete if necessary and I won't do it again.

It is sold by a UK company called Noogleberry.  It looks exactly like the pics online.  The quality is fine and it does have a sucking (pardon pun) effect on your boobs.  They look like a balloon being pumped up.  The question is does it eventually have any lasting effect.
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Linde

Quote from: KimOct on March 20, 2019, 08:45:46 PM

  The quality is fine and it does have a sucking (pardon pun) effect on your boobs.  They look like a balloon being pumped up.  The question is does it eventually have any lasting effect.
Biologically it should work.  Number one, it stretches the skin, number two, it increases blood flow to this area.  Extra and increased blood flow means increased tissue growth because of the extra nutrition for this issue.  So yes, it should work, but how fast and how much, I don't know.  I bet it is different with each person.
Like natural growth, it might be different with each boob.  I have almost a difference of an entire cup between my two girls.  I know that both of them started out at the same time, and should have got the same nutrition, too.  I have no idea why one of the looks like the grunt?
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HappyMoni

Kim, now sit back and watch! This is how a professional derails a thread! (Chest pumped up and all full ofproud of myself!)

Did you ever try to tickle yourself? Agh, it doesn't work, does it? I wonder if this has something similar going on to folks not getting pleasure from touching their own boobs. Part of my problem is the lower part not regaining sensitivity yet. I do like a very light touch on my boobs. Also,I get no kick from champagne! I do like seeing them in the mirror though. Mere alcohol, doesn't thrill me at all. Sorry, I keep 'busting' into song.

Now that is a derail, right? Or is it? (Cue the scary music.)

Just gotta say, I have tomorrow off and am headed to Keystone. Just a little silly. I get to wear my dresses and try out my push up bra! Whup whup! So much fun after a tough week. See you on the flip side, Lovelies!
Moni
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HRT June 11, 2015. (new birthday) - FFS in late June 2016. (Dr. _____=Ugh!) - Full time June 18, 2016 (Yeah! finally) - GCS June 27, 2017. (McGinn=Yeah!) - Under Eye repair from FFS 8/17/17 - Nose surgery-November 20, 2017 (Dr. Papel=Yeah) - Hair Transplant on June 21, 2018 (Dr. Cooley-yeah) - Breast Augmentation on July 10, 2018 (Dr. Basner in Baltimore) - Removed bad scarring from FFS surgery near ears and hairline in August, 2018 (Dr. Papel) -Sept. 2018, starting a skin regiment on face with Retin A  April 2019 -repairing neck scar from FFS

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KimOct

LMAO !!!!!   ;D :D ;D

You are effing hilarious !!!

Have fun.  :)
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steph2.0

Quote from: KimOct on March 21, 2019, 10:09:50 PM
LMAO !!!!!   ;D :D ;D

You are effing hilarious !!!

Have fun.  :)

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