Since i feel i may be experiencing something out of the ordinary.

I'm a spiritual kind of person, i'll admit that. I also believe the mind is a powerful thing that should never be underestimated.

Explain to me... scientifically or through evidence of it happening to yourselves: Because we aren't born immediately as who we are and the fact that at some point in our lives we all go through a change both physically and mentally... if any of us have something hidden... like an extra sense, is it possible that extra sense could begin to see light during our transition because we become more comfortable in ourselves?

I am aware what i've just said could be confusing to some cos i'm crap at explaining things. If what i asked is unclear, let me know and i'll try and word it better.

if their were an extra sense, that would make sense. Like the earthquake that revealed Pompeii. But that is only if their were an extra sense.

what do you mean, Pica?

Well, the analogy is that Pompie was covered in magma, no one saw it for hundreds and hundreds of years. Then seismic activity shifted and exposed some of it and it was dug up - the logic may work that the seismic shifts that transitioning takes uncovers hidden wishes, desires, talents, skills etc...

...not sure about new senses, but certainly different ways of experiencing and interpreting old ones.

I think I know what you are getting at Wishy.

My family has a bit of a history of ... extra senses on my mom's side, and when I was younger, and before I struck my denial phase, I would get precog dreams. I was able to verify them as well since I kept a dream-diary, so I know it was real. My mom has always been extraordinarly sensitive as well.

When I did bury myself, that went with it. I became completely cold and rational, and though I believed in ESP and stuff, I could never trust it - my rational mind overrode every instinct, every intuition.

Since I've started transitioning though, I've noticed that my intuition is getting sharper by the day. Instead of weighing pros and cons and making a decision, I follow my instincts, and I am rarely wrong. I've also started catching glimpses of those old dreams again - tough to recall, because of all the detritus that still needs to be cleared away, but it's definitely there.

~Simone.

i ask because i've started having visions. I've always read about people having extra spiritual... what can i call them?... Powers. And to be honest i never really fully believed it as it was never something i've experienced before and i always wondered if it was real... or just an imagination thing that people 'believed' themselves to have this ability.

But lately... i've been dreaming things that seem to happen shortly after. Nothing major... one of a days events and the other about what happened in a program i watch lol  But also things such as having a thought and something in reality reacting to that thought.

It's quite freaky as i've never actually fully believed and i still kind of dont in a way. It would be nice to find someone with psychic abilities that i could talk to and see if this isn't just a passing phase... or if it really is something i've uncovered through being more open to myself and allowing me to be myself without any boundaries.

Quote from: wishy on April 15, 2008, 05:55:24 AM
i ask because i've started having visions. I've always read about people having extra spiritual... what can i call them?... Powers. And to be honest i never really fully believed it as it was never something i've experienced before and i always wondered if it was real... or just an imagination thing that people 'believed' themselves to have this ability.

But lately... i've been dreaming things that seem to happen shortly after. Nothing major... one of a days events and the other about what happened in a program i watch lol  But also things such as having a thought and something in reality reacting to that thought.

It's quite freaky as i've never actually fully believed and i still kind of dont in a way. It would be nice to find someone with psychic abilities that i could talk to and see if this isn't just a passing phase... or if it really is something i've uncovered through being more open to myself and allowing me to be myself without any boundaries.

The best way to figure out if precognitive dreams such as those you describe are real or just deja-vu, is to start keeping a dream diary. Also, if you wake yourself about half-way through your sleep-cycle, say about 3/5 or 4 hours, stay awake for 10 or 15 minutes and then go back to sleep, you will be able to recall your dreams MUCH more easily. you should probably not do that too regularly, 'cause it does mess with your sleep-patterns, but to get you into the habit of recording dreams easily, it's a good place to start.

Just keep a pad next to your bed with two or three different coloured pens. First thing in the morning, write down or draw whatever you remember from the night before, leaving space to fill in stuff later. Kinda build an associative map throughout the day as you reread the page, with little arrows of one memory or impression leading on to another. I used the same technique to recall lost memories and stuff from my childhood. I would write down impressions, and then use those kinda as keys to access other memories that might have been long forgotten.

Good luck hon.

~Simone.

Wishy & Simone,

I cannot scientifically explain what you are experiencing, not do I really understand.  Nevertheless, I accept as fact that you are experiencing these events.  A girlfriend of mine has visions.  My son sees the aura's that exists around a person.  Neither one is inclined to make these things up.

To quote:

     There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio,
     Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
                                                            Hamlet, Act I, scene V

I think keeping a journal of what you experience is a wonderful idea.  I would love to know what you discover - both from a scientific and spiritual basis.

I would venture this thought.  As we cease repressing who we are, I believe that we strip away far more than our "false selves."  I believe that we are also stripping away many other inhibitions placed upon us by the world, society and ourselves.  Thus, for a moment, we have a chance to stand open and accepting of the world around us.  It may be in this moment that the gifts you have spoken of are finally able to be expressed and explored.

I wish both of you great discovery!

Chaunte

You might just be more in touch with it, repressing less, exploring yourself more and hence your just more open to it.

Quote from: Chaunte on April 15, 2008, 06:56:54 AM
Wishy & Simone,

I cannot scientifically explain what you are experiencing, not do I really understand.  Nevertheless, I accept as fact that you are experiencing these events.  A girlfriend of mine has visions.  My son sees the aura's that exists around a person.  Neither one is inclined to make these things up.

To quote:

     There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio,
     Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
                                                            Hamlet, Act I, scene V

I think keeping a journal of what you experience is a wonderful idea.  I would love to know what you discover - both from a scientific and spiritual basis.

I would venture this thought.  As we cease repressing who we are, I believe that we strip away far more than our "false selves."  I believe that we are also stripping away many other inhibitions placed upon us by the world, society and ourselves.  Thus, for a moment, we have a chance to stand open and accepting of the world around us.  It may be in this moment that the gifts you have spoken of are finally able to be expressed and explored.

I wish both of you great discovery!

Chaunte

Hehe. Scientifically it is a conundrum, to be sure. If you are interested, I can absolutely recommend Lyall Watson's books. He's a marine biologist who spent almost a decade travelling the world's oceans in his little boat, recording the most amazing things. He presents a fascinating view of the supernatural side of nature, of animals and the earth itself, that are amazing. His first book, 'Supernature' is a bit more theoretical and speculative, while 'Beyond Supernature' is a collection of case studies. He's written many books since, all worth a look.

I've also recently read a few books that go some way towards attempting a scientific explanation for these phenomena. 'The Holographic Universe' by Michael Talbot, goes into greater Detail about David Bohm's holographic model, and it makes for compelling reading. There's also a book called 'The Science of the Craft', which, while perhaps not as scientifically rigorous, nevertheless presents some really cool ideas to ponder.

Enjoy!

~Simone.

Well, I believe there's truth in it. The world would be such a dull place if there wasn't a bit of magic in it.

And I believe that by being more self-confident and comfortable with yourself, you can indeed open up to skills that you never thought you had, or that you might've lost.

Well, I've been unable to finish any story I've written, unable to like any song I've sung, unable to draw anything on my mind for these past years when I started to constantly feel there was something wrong about my body. It is my hope, that when I get to explore myself and become more comfortable with this (I -am- still in a spot of denial on occasion...like, every other minute...) that I will be able to open up to those sides of me again and be creative.

I also used to have precognitive dreams, lots of deja vú moments, but I haven't had any that I recall for the last four or five years.


~Moi

I suppose that its a distinct possibility that we could have a sixth sense of sorts...

Every now and then I have some things that one could call a sixth sense.

Some in dreams and some things like a spider (Black widow) hovering above my head on a web and scaring me half to death after feeling it being there....

I had a dream of a Wolf barking at me once and found that from my blood, that I am an American Indian in heritage apparently and due to a few factors, my spirit guide is a wolf.

And stuff on TV....dont get me started on that....I talk about something on tv...and there it is either the next day, or on that day....

Within the month that my mother died, (and my cat got put down 2 years prior) I had a dream of spiders, and for me, spiders symbolize fear and death.

(and more then a few other visions in dreams, and few otherwise, but they have happened)

So it appears that it might be a possibility of either Slight ESP-ish stuff is in my blood or we are all natively slightly psychic, but it might vary from person to person.


However, I am unsure if this is appropriately accurate since I have yet to even start to transition 

I think what people think of ESP is actually a different way of processing current sense data.

I've had three situations now in the following 3 months.

My mate dreamt i had a car accident and died (she's believed to be somewhat psychic too) shortly after i had a dream myself that i got knocked down by a car and had to have metal in my legs to help me walk again. Though... i've not had any accidents just YET! lol. When i'm volunteering at the sanctuary, i'm in the cattery all the time, one night i dreamt about dogs and rabbits and the following day i was walking the dogs and cleaning out the rabbits (which i never particularly do). Then once i was thinking to myself while walking and the thought: "It's be easier to get in touch with Jesus himself" passed through my head... seconds later a vicar passed me in the street lol.

And the other day i dreamt exactly what was going to happen on this program i watch and the following that exact thing happened. Note: i dont ever read tv guides or anything.

Quote from: Pica Pica on April 16, 2008, 05:41:27 AM
I think what people think of ESP is actually a different way of processing current sense data.

For somebody so creative, you don't have much imagination, do ya?
All logic, no fantasy. 

i think there's enough wonder in the interplay between concious minds with other concious minds, and concious minds and the unconcious world to need to tack on things like ESP.

Quote from: Pica Pica on April 16, 2008, 01:13:41 PM
i think there's enough wonder in the interplay between concious minds with other concious minds, and concious minds and the unconcious world to need to tack on things like ESP.

Whatever you say, jelly babe. So do you have this ESP, this 'alternative way of processing data'?

not that i've noticed...you?

no, though i wish sometimes i did. your signature's blank.

not on my computer it isn't