Group claims Day of Silence today promotes a gay agenda

April 24, 2008 - 11:35PM
By PERRY SWANSON

QuoteStudents participating in Day of Truth will wear T-shirts and pass out cards that read: "I am speaking the truth to break the silence. True tolerance means that people with differing - even opposing - viewpoints can freely exchange ideas and respectfully listen to each other. It's time for an honest conversation about homosexuality. There's freedom to change if you want to. Let's talk."

   Participants believe people who want to can change their sexual orientation.

I suppose what I wonder then is if one can be or not be homosexual by making a decision and effort not to be, if the same would not be true for heterosexuality as well?

That being a given truth for these people, why shouldn't they consider 'changing' as well?

N~

Having these people support 'truth' is a lot like having Oscar Meyer support meatless Mondays.  Just don't ring true somehow.

Quote from: tekla on April 25, 2008, 11:08:03 AM
Having these people support 'truth' is a lot like having Oscar Meyer support meatless Mondays.  Just don't ring true somehow.

You are soooo cynical about those good people, tekla. Now you know, doncha, that they would really just enjoy talking with you, right? Never mind the firewood they appear to be stacking over there!!

N~

Its not just those people.  I'm very cynical about anything and anyone that comes with a press release attached to it.  And I'm a willin' to bet that it didn't come with a release, it came with a complete press kit listing media contacts (bio sheets, a page of pre-made quotes, some photos, and information directing you to some web thing where you could download these and other photos for your story in a pretty custom folder), the whole salami. 

Remember when the second most important guy in the church after the reverend, or minister, or priest or whatever was like the youth minister or the choir director and not the Public Relations Expert (closely followed by some crack legal team)?  I mean, isn't a swarm of lawyers and legal briefs the missing plague of Egypt? 

"Look Pharaoh, if you don't mind looking over these documents, and sign here, and here, and here.  And then we need you to sign this here...."

It would have tied the Pharaoh up so long the Chosen People could have built a toll-bridge across the Red Sea and charged him when he came after them.

I'm also pretty sure from past experience that they so don't want to talk to me.  I grew up in a very, very religious deal, the very American liberal Catholic deal (there were such people once) did my 12 years in Catholic School, and even through grad school worked with religious issues and theology - Like Lord of the Rings, you don't have to believe it to enjoy it.  And at that level, a lot of the questions that are asked are good and valid questions.  Things that are not that bad to think over.  Hell, one of my best friends is a priest.  He hangs at my house, we go out to the brew pub together, I go to his things on occasion and I don't mind talking all that over with him (though for obvious reasons he's not in agreement with me on some major points) but that not the blind worship deal either. 

And that's what all this press release religion is, blind worship.  Right is right and you don't even have to think about it.  There are no interesting questions.  Hell, there are no questions at all.  That scares me.

the truth is that idiots like these that actually believe that they are "being tolerant" are incredibly laughable. 

To me, it's sort of like what tekla says, but it's a bit more complicated.  I don't think executives (or workers) deep down believe feel that they especially care about the environment, or that Oscar Meyer executives (or workers) care if people show sufficient moderation in their diets.  However, a large number of "workers" in religion (but perhaps not so much leaders, especially the con-artists that speak so grandly about religion and demand obedience) really believe their one book has the answers to everything (never mind whether the book actually says what they are told to believe).  They believe The Bible (or rather what they are told is in The Bible) is the absolute truth, and so to them this "day of truth" is cohesive.  And in addition to their msiguided convinction, the fact that these groups are collectively so large and have so much political clout makes them exceedingly dangerous to the liberty to everyone else (the moderates they intimidate, and the others that they persecute), their offspring, and even themselves.

Authoritarian followers are dangerous.

Quote from: Nichole on April 25, 2008, 10:57:35 AM
I suppose what I wonder then is if one can be or not be homosexual by making a decision and effort not to be, if the same would not be true for heterosexuality as well?

But of course it is -- that's exactly why they don't want their children seduced into homosexuality by the evil propaganda that masquerades as 'tolerance'.

  Nfr

The subject of this thread isn't exactly accurate, as people like these are not true Christians. The basis of all Christian moral philosophy is love and treating others in the exact same way the Christians themselves want to be treated. People such as these are ignoring the Golden Rule; this something that is blasphemous to true Christians.

So, I'd not say that "Christians" are planning this. I'd say that SOME Christians are planning this. But then, I've been lucky enough to meet true Christians. The senior pastor of our church is an out-of-the-closet lesbian.