Did you see Musk's semi Nazi salute?

Quote from: davina61 on January 21, 2025, 03:24:36 AMDid you see Musk's semi Nazi salute?

I do not think that was a Nazi salute.  Likely he was just pointing to parts of the crowd.

What was really sad was to see two people at the front elevated tribune stand of the Neuremburg Nazi party rally grounds (Zeppelin Field), where Hitler would address his followers, stand and give the illegal salute, to have their pictures separately taken giving the salute.

That was real.

Quote from: ChrissyRyan on January 21, 2025, 08:20:31 AMI do not think that was a Nazi salute.  Likely he was just pointing to parts of the crowd.

I've seen that picture and no, Chrissy. I admire your diplomacy but he couldn't have been doing any more of a Nazi salute if he had a tiny little moustache and had wrote "Mein SpaceX".

How much more proof do you need that... I don't even know. The way Trump talks, acts, tries to bully the world... surrounds himself with sycophants who are terrified of him. It's the 1930s all over again. The only other step you need is for him to sign an executive order outlawing the Democrats from running against him.

I saw him do it at the Inauguration. He did it several times.

I think he realized the cameras saw him do it, so he played it off like he was saying "My heart goes out to you" and he mouthed words to that effect the third time he did it.

Quote from: Lori Dee on January 21, 2025, 04:47:16 PMI saw him do it at the Inauguration. He did it several times.

I think he realized the cameras saw him do it, so he played it off like he was saying "My heart goes out to you" and he mouthed words to that effect the third time he did it.

Agreed. These people have way more money than brain cells.

For context, this is the guy that has been clamouring for our King to call a new election because our current prime minister, for all his faults, thinks Trump is a grade A lunatic.

Shows how much he knows about how our electoral system works.

Stick to making electric cars that only sometimes blow up. Stay out of other stuff. It's not good for you.

I just do not think he did a Nazi salute.  Makes no sense.  Likely this movement was an excited awkward gesture.

Lots of people raise their arm and point or shake it when they are excited, such as when their team scores a touchdown.

He is smart and a bit odd.  I think I will give him a pass on this gesture.

You do not have to! 

I hope he or someone comes up with a cancer and dementia cure, and cures for a lot of bad ailments.  Maybe artificial intelligence applications, financed by governments and investors, will speed up a cure or a preventive medicine.  One can hope.

Hugs,

Chrissy

Lori,

I hope your appointments this morning go well.
Keep warm.

It does not look as if there will be mandated cutbacks for trans related services to veterans unless they are incarcerated.  I hope that is the case.  I did not read about any such cutbacks, although funding may be cut across the board across federal departments as a budget cost saving measure.  It that is the case, there will be some pain across the board to reduce the deficit.

Chrissy

Quote from: ChrissyRyan on January 22, 2025, 06:25:25 AMLori,

I hope your appointments this morning go well.
Keep warm.

It does not look as if there will be mandated cutbacks for trans related services to veterans unless they are incarcerated.  I hope that is the case.  I did not read about any such cutbacks, although funding may be cut across the board across federal departments as a budget cost saving measure.  It that is the case, there will be some pain across the board to reduce the deficit.

Chrissy

Although not specifically mentioned, Executive Orders only apply to federal agencies in the Executive Branch. So that includes the Department of Defense (military) and the Department of Veterans Affairs.

The EO states:

(e)  Agencies shall remove all statements, policies, regulations, forms, communications, or other internal and external messages that promote or otherwise inculcate gender ideology, and shall cease issuing such statements, policies, regulations, forms, communications or other messages.  Agency forms that require an individual's sex shall list male or female, and shall not request gender identity.  Agencies shall take all necessary steps, as permitted by law, to end the Federal funding of gender ideology.

and

(g)  Federal funds shall not be used to promote gender ideology.  Each agency shall assess grant conditions and grantee preferences and ensure grant funds do not promote gender ideology.

The only question is how quickly the rules and policies will be changed and whether they will be challenged in court. The VA was sued in 2016, and the case was dragged out until 2024. A second suit was filed to force a decision, and the decision was "NO." So, another lawsuit was filed. Nine years and two different Presidents and nothing has happened. I am not hopeful.

Quote from: Lori Dee on January 22, 2025, 06:49:35 AMAlthough not specifically mentioned, Executive Orders only apply to federal agencies in the Executive Branch. So that includes the Department of Defense (military) and the Department of Veterans Affairs.

The EO states:

(e)  Agencies shall remove all statements, policies, regulations, forms, communications, or other internal and external messages that promote or otherwise inculcate gender ideology, and shall cease issuing such statements, policies, regulations, forms, communications or other messages.  Agency forms that require an individual's sex shall list male or female, and shall not request gender identity.  Agencies shall take all necessary steps, as permitted by law, to end the Federal funding of gender ideology.

and

(g)  Federal funds shall not be used to promote gender ideology.  Each agency shall assess grant conditions and grantee preferences and ensure grant funds do not promote gender ideology.

The only question is how quickly the rules and policies will be changed and whether they will be challenged in court. The VA was sued in 2016, and the case was dragged out until 2024. A second suit was filed to force a decision, and the decision was "NO." So, another lawsuit was filed. Nine years and two different Presidents and nothing has happened. I am not hopeful.

That does not sounds as if medical treatment is specifically prohibited, so that is encouraging.

Quote from: ChrissyRyan on January 22, 2025, 07:14:11 AMThat does not sounds as if medical treatment is specifically prohibited, so that is encouraging.

Actually, it does. The premise is that all humans are male or female and that cannot be changed. No federal funding of "gender ideology" means no gender-affirming healthcare. It is unauthorized because sex cannot be changed per the Order.

I had a good appointment with my VA Psychologist this morning and we discussed these things. She is very sympathetic but has no answers about where this will go.

She told me that due to the EO stating "the White House Gender Policy Council established by Executive Order 14020 is dissolved" there were 6,000 employees who lost their jobs yesterday.

People kept telling me before the election that this stuff can't happen. Then after the election people said Trump won't do these things. Now he has done it and people say, it will get challenged in court. They forget who appointed those judges.

I told my psychologist that either I am delusional, or I am just so amazingly gifted that I am the only one who saw this coming and sees what lies ahead. I don't believe either is true. She assured me that others see what I see. I told her the problem lies in that those who see it are not in a position to do anything about it. < sigh >

Promoting gender ideology I thought was "informing about it or encouraging so that it is accepted and not discriminated against."


So you may continue to get your care!  We shall see.

The curves in Lori's avatar, as it is posted today, are desirable.

Sigh.

Quote from: ChrissyRyan on January 25, 2025, 10:15:38 AMThe curves in Lori's avatar, as it is posted today, are desirable.

Sigh.

We can all wish. can't we? 

Quote from: Lori Dee on January 25, 2025, 10:30:36 AMWe can all wish. can't we? 

Yes!

Quote from: Lori Dee on January 17, 2025, 05:36:36 PMHopefully not the kitchen sink. 

Many years ago, I caught my mother using the kitchen sink.  I can't remember what her excuse was.  The real reason was probably that she just didn't want to struggle up the stairs to the bathroom.

Fortunately, it was just a Number One, as I think Americans call it.

I have curves but they go out and not in!!!!

Quote from: davina61 on January 25, 2025, 02:30:07 PMI have curves but they go out and not in!!!!

The perfect figure... a sphere! 

Quote from: Lori Dee on January 25, 2025, 10:30:36 AMWe can all wish. can't we? 

Not gonna lie, I kind of like the tattoo.

I did not pay attention to the tattoo.

Oh yes, there it is.