people who drain your energy.  they are always in need of "emotional support"
who come on to you like you're the only person that can help them.

do you believe their emotional dependency is a sign of deep-seated insecurity or are they really in need of "support"?

I just tell them how to correct their mistakes. Many get hurt but that ends the whining and gives them a valuable view of there problems.

I usually start talking about "my own" personal problems  .  Apparently they only love to talk about "themselves" and never want to listen to what others have to say, especially if you are the one asking for emotional support.

tink

Quote from: Natasha on May 08, 2008, 06:57:14 PM
people who drain your energy.  they are always in need of "emotional support"
who come on to you like you're the only person that can help them.

do you believe their emotional dependency is a sign of deep-seated insecurity or are they really in need of "support"?

it depends on the person. i have time for dealing with my loved ones, and don't mind doing it. i think that, because i don't mind doing it, i don't find it draining. in general, i know they are there for me too. Tekla said it's not good to be dependent, but it's good to be interdependent. i think that's true.

-Ell

well... first off, vampires are just normal people with their own problems. generalization is never a good thing to start off.

Quote from: Tink on May 08, 2008, 08:52:04 PMApparently they only love to talk about "themselves" and never want to listen to what others have to say, especially if you are the one asking for emotional support.

With all due respect i think that is a wrong thing to say about vampires. Soz Tink. *hugs*

vampires in todays world are just normal people- they just lack the energy one needs to survive. pranic energy, or life force, some call it. fact of the matter is- most already know they are vampires and don't usually take energy without permission from the 'donor'. those that do are looked down upon in the vampire community.

also- there isn't just one way they can get the energy they want. some take it from nature- like fire, the wind, water etc. other's try and drink blood- but it's usually very little and not taken every night. other's take it from you... or like you said- drain you.

what you should understand is, when you're being drained of your energy, it can be because of three reasons.

1) the person is KNOWINGLY taking your energy with out your concent.
2) The person is UNknowingly taking your energy where (s)he doesn't know they're a vampire.
3) one of these two above took another's energy and now that person is unknowingly taking from everyone around him/her to fill his/her own energy up again.

[sorry for the his her - i don't quite understand how the gender neutral terms work yet. *blush*]

now- there are several ways to protect yourself from such an 'attack'. You can always type in 'shielding techniques' into your favorite search engine- just a note, you'll probably get lots of Wiccan content or other alternative religions' ways of doing things.

But you can do lots of things to protect yourself. Do a protection spell, do a protective meditation, or say a prayer.

I personally believe you will be best protected with a way from your current religion. It would have a strong spiritual influence from yourself.

I would suggest you use your own words etc as it would be much more personal and it would also be stronger. Just my opinion.

~Eloise

[EDIT- Soz. forgot this part.]

anyhow- just treat them like you would anyone else. if you are protected there is no way you should fear them. they're just trying to live in this world- same as we all do.
that's how i treat them. with fairness, understanding and sympathy.

Vampire mumbo jumbo aside...

All people have problems, if someone comes to you it is because they feel they can confide in you and you can help, it is HUMAN NATURE...


If you cannot handle them at the moment just polietly tell them that....

No need to mock people in distress by calling them vampires and such..

HUMANS NEED LOVE to live, they will get it where they can....

if you cant give it, tell em and stop wasting there time so they can go find theres....

Posted on: May 09, 2008, 01:37:20 AM

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Quote from: Natasha on May 08, 2008, 06:57:14 PM
people who drain your energy.  they are always in need of "emotional support"
who come on to you like you're the only person that can help them.

do you believe their emotional dependency is a sign of deep-seated insecurity or are they really in need of "support"?

Do you think your anger towards these people is a sign of deep-seated insecurity in YOURSELF?

I'm sure just about everyone has had one of those 'another ->-bleeped-<-ty day in paradise' types around them at some point, unless of course, you're that person.  The one who always has a problem.  Every day, day and and day out, another disaster.  And, at least the one's I've had in my life all seem to possess a unique set of problems in that they are never the fault of the person themselves.  It's always someone else who is to blame, or who is causing it.  They are the people who are never late for work and say "my bad" but are late for work often, and its always - the power was shut off, the traffic was bad (and when isn't it?), it's the bus, it was the fault of BART (which as we all know does not stand for Bay Area Rapid Transit, but, rather, Bay Area Reason for Tardiness - and knowing that, we try to take the train early, not cut it close), there was a murder, they were filming, the list is truly endless.

That's the problem with trying to help them, since they are never to blame, (its always some great cosmic injustice at work) there is little they can do about it.

Since they feed on attention, the easiest way is to politely ignore them and tell them that due to circumstances beyond your control you really can't think about their problem right at this time.

That's the problem with trying to help them, since they are never to blame, (its always some great cosmic injustice at work) there is little they can do about it.

Since they feed on attention, the easiest way is to politely ignore them and tell them that due to circumstances beyond your control you really can't think about their problem right at this time.

kind of like those t-shirts that read: i can only help one person at a time, today's not your day and tomorrow's not looking any better...

Warrior Princess,
Mickie

WTF!!!

I think it is so inadvertantly hilarious that you all think so highly of yourselves...

EVERY HUMAN BEING regardless of how much better you think you all are than anyone else is, and has been one of these people at some point in there lives...

Why are you all trying your absolute hardest to discriminate against anyone???

Are you all really this insecure???

You all sound exactly like the people your talking about..

your bitching about a problem thats not your fault RIGHT!!! Open your eyes..

Thread of Hatred..

what the heck happened to the good people of SUSANS.ORG?

Quote from: mara on May 09, 2008, 05:43:08 PM
WTF!!!

I think it is so inadvertantly hilarious that you all think so highly of yourselves...

EVERY HUMAN BEING regardless of how much better you think you all are than anyone else is, and has been one of these people at some point in there lives...

Why are you all trying your absolute hardest to discriminate against anyone???

Are you all really this insecure???

You all sound exactly like the people your talking about..

your bitching about a problem thats not your fault RIGHT!!! Open your eyes..

Thread of Hatred..

what the heck happened to the good people of SUSANS.ORG?

While I can agree with many of the ideas you posted here, the way you did it is almost as bad as the things you are commenting about.  Constructive and insightful criticism works a lot better than terse one liners with lots of punctuation!!!

I know of people who could be considered 'psychic vampires' by some.  I personally would try to avoid using that term to describe them most of the time.  But it does provide a vivid mental description that matches the impact they have on certain people.

For some folks, these people aren't a problem.  They know of ways of helping them out or sending them to people who can help them out.

But for certain folks, the empathic types that can deeply sympathize with them, they are draining in more ways than one.  You may succeed in helping them, but they run into problems again and come back for more help from the person that helped them last time.  If you don't have a way of recharging yourself fully between sessions, you have problems recovering.

You can almost think of these so called 'psychic vampires' as people with soap opera lives.  They have to many things going wrong, they have a hard time reaching the surface to breathe, much less staying afloat in the storm tossed oceans of life.  (And what is worse, if someone wrote up THEIR life stories for a soap opera, it would be rejected as being too unbelievable.)

NM not worth it.

Quote from: mara on May 09, 2008, 01:38:25 AM
Vampire mumbo jumbo aside...

actually what i find "mumbo jumbo" are your posts on this topic mara.

Quote from: mara on May 09, 2008, 01:38:25 AM

No need to mock people in distress by calling them vampires and such..

ha ha ha are you serious?  i'm not "calling" them anything.  psychic vampire is a valid term.  they are also called soul suckers...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychic_vampire
http://www.themystica.com/mystica/articles/v/vampire_the_psychic.html

Quote from: mara on May 09, 2008, 01:38:25 AM
Do you think your anger towards these people is a sign of deep-seated insecurity in YOURSELF?

i'm not sure what you mean by this.  logically, there are a few fallacies in linking the two statements [ignoratio elenchi and false analogy].  plus, you inserted the word [anger] which wasn't part of my initial statement. i don't recall saying anything about "anger".  btw my self-esteem is terrific, how's yours mara?  did i ruffle your feathers with my post?  oo so sorry.

terrific answers rowan & eloise. 

Maybe it is time for us all to take a step back and relax.

Sarah L.

Quote from: Natasha on May 08, 2008, 06:57:14 PM
people who drain your energy.  they are always in need of "emotional support"
who come on to you like you're the only person that can help them.

do you believe their emotional dependency is a sign of deep-seated insecurity or are they really in need of "support"?

They are really in need of support!

If you cant help then refer them to someone who can, instead of bitching about them on some forum.

To me you sound like the type your thread inspired rants are about...

Lame....

Mara, you're overreacting a bit. "Psychic vampire" is a term in use. Natasha's just asking for thoughts on the subject.

Locked until the air kicks on in here.