In the MTF section I've stumbled about this link and there I've found out that in Japan they had urinals for women, too:

QuoteBefore and during the Meiji Era, urinals were commonly used by both men and women. Traditionally, a kimono is worn without underwear, and the females merely pulled up their kimono, and with an upward pull on their vulva, were able to direct the urine forward into the urinal. This practice disappeared in the 20th century, after most women started wearing western-style clothing. Nowadays, even kimono are almost always worn with underwear.

With an upward pull on their Vulva? I somehow can't really picture how this is supposed to work and obviously did work. Maybe somebody else has an idea?

And anyway, it's a interesting little bit of random information 

I have no idea, but I am going to try it in the shower and if I am lucky, I'll share. 

That is what we call the "finger-assist method" now-a-days. Some women do it, some FtMs try it when we can't get our hands on a Stand-to-pee device.

You make a V with your first two fingers. Put them on either side of the vulva (inside the inner lips), pull apart and up and let 'er rip. It can be effective if you practice (and I mean practice A LOT) cause it's hard as hell to aim with this method.

Quoteupward pull on their Vulva

I know this works because I have done it while camping. But it takes considerable practice and I would advise anyone trying it to practice a lot in the shower before trying it in the wild. I thought it took a little upward pull and little separating of labia.

I just squat no matter where I am. For long road trips, just keep wide mouth bottles or jars in your vehicle.

yeah i'm pre-op and i do this all the time. It just takes some practice/mastering. Once ya get the hang of it its rather easy to pee standing without a device or anything

bust out the duct tape

Just tried it and wow  it was a right mess.  Good thing I did it in the shower.

What Japanese women did, or did not do, a few centuries ago, bears little on what is here and now.

yeah it is a lil messy nox until you get the hang of it

Quote from: tekla on May 09, 2008, 01:25:30 AM
What Japanese women did, or did not do, a few centuries ago, bears little on what is here and now.

Well, (beside the fact that I do find it interesting that this technique was cultivated in Japan) since some of the guys here are pretty interested in ways to pee while standing, I posted it anyway.

Quote from: tekla on May 09, 2008, 01:25:30 AM
What Japanese women did, or did not do, a few centuries ago, bears little on what is here and now.

Given this is the FtM forum and standing to pee is a fairly constant topic in this forum, I think it does bear on what is here and now. If a population of women can do it, it should be inspiring for FtM guys who want to to try it. Mind you, might be easier wearing a kimono and that's a fashion choice I'm not willing to adopt

Dennis

Quote from: Dennis on May 10, 2008, 06:52:10 PM

Quote from: tekla on May 09, 2008, 01:25:30 AM
What Japanese women did, or did not do, a few centuries ago, bears little on what is here and now.

Given this is the FtM forum and standing to pee is a fairly constant topic in this forum, I think it does bear on what is here and now. If a population of women can do it, it should be inspiring for FtM guys who want to to try it. Mind you, might be easier wearing a kimono and that's a fashion choice I'm not willing to adopt

Dennis

Dennis - Thank you for answering  so succinctly, and much more politely than I am about to.

Tekla - I for one am getting heartily sick of the snotty, worldlier-than-thou posts like this that you have been littering all over the boards. 

This is a community of people who have many different interests, beliefs, and experiences.  That's what makes it interesting.  If you can't be respectful, please keep your comments to yourself.

Quote from: tekla on May 09, 2008, 01:25:30 AM
What Japanese women did, or did not do, a few centuries ago, bears little on what is here and now.

Where would we be without the knowledge and understanding of what those who came before us did?