There should be an alternative for gender-swap child

http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,23739,23797417-27197,00.html
6/3/2008

"TEENAGE years are downright difficult to negotiate, so I was amazed at the court ruling to allow a 12-year-old to begin a sex change.

The Victorian Family Court gave a 12-year-old-girl the green light to begin early treatment for a sex change. While surgical intervention won't occur until the child reaches 18, hormone treatment, which would suppress menstruation and other physical changes, has been allowed."

The writer is certainly quite the mild-mannered, even-tempered, poorly-informed bigot.

"There must be another way." Oh, yeah? Would you care to make a suggestion?

There sugestion is probably, "Let nature run its course"

which we ofcorse leads to highly suicidal thoughts, and near ireversable damaged caused by the incorrect puberty... you thought your teen years were bad... try being TS and living through them 

Quote from: LynnER on June 02, 2008, 07:08:46 PM
There sugestion is probably, "Let nature run its course"

which we ofcorse leads to highly suicidal thoughts, and near ireversable damaged caused by the incorrect puberty... you thought your teen years were bad... try being TS and living through them 

Indeed. My teenage years were utterly horrible due to "allowing nature to take its course". Some people are so incredibly stupid that it boggles the mind.

There is usually an alternative, it is called DEATH! but of course, what does that moron (and the ones like her) know about being born in the wrong body? 

tink

OK the reporter had difficulty in hiding her predjudice !

But 12 years old is still way, way too young to give a child approval for social gender change as it kind of makes his / her future life & gender pre-determined .... and how many "tomboy" girls find happiness in their female gender post the trauma and sexual affirmation of female puberty ?  Guess we're looking at 5 - 10% of the female population .....

Knee jerk reactions from the TS members here are understandable, but we need to understand that we are not typical (for example most effeminate boy children grow up to be well adjusted men, maybe even only 60 - 70% gay) ....

Sure its difficult, but with the exception of very special circumstance I'd say wait till sixteen, allow the child freedom of gender expression, but don't guide the child at 12 along a road that pre-deternines a transsexual future with all its negatives (infertility, lifelong medication, social rejection, finding partner difficulties) .....

Laura :-(

The course of action for young transitioners, that is, delaying puberty, is not the same thing as hrt, if I understand this correctly. It is not irreversible; it merely delays the irreversible changes that puberty brings (i.e, breasts or lower voice, depending on sex). This is not final. Puberty, in many ways, is.

I'm highly skeptical that puberty resolves any gender issues. There's a difference between gender dysphoria and being effeminate or a tomboy.

I totaly agree with Alyssa

And as Ive stated in many another post.... I knew before I hit puberty... and EVERYONE WHO THINKS THAT LETTING US GO THORUGH A "NATURAL PUBERTY NEEDS TO GET EDUCATED AS TO THE HORROR."

12 year old kids perfectly well know what they need to do... they dont necicarily understand the whys or hows, but they understand the need.... and thats what counts...  (SIdes... I know of plenty of 12 year olds who are far more adult and intelegent than the adults currently dissagreeing with letting children transition)

My thoughts are that if they have been assessed as being a good candidate then why not? In this case it is not like a weak inclination for things of the opposite gender, but a persistent identification which causes a huge amount of distress and torment. What are the chances of getting it 'wrong'? I think this is what everyone is worried about.

I don't think anyone else has the right to 'approve' social gender change for someone else. People should be free to choose. They are allowing this person time to make the 'choice' by delaying puberty which sounds entirely reasonable to me. It is allowing for the possiblity that everyone got it wrong while it mitigates a lot of pain if they got it right.

I think this correction seems more appropriate:

Quote from: Tink on June 02, 2008, 08:22:50 PM
There is usually an alternative, it is called DEATH! but of course, what does that moron a non-TS person (and the ones like her) know about being born in the wrong body? 

tink

tink

I wish somebody would have given me the option to delay puberty.  12 years old is way old enough to know what gender you want to be, especially since this lad will have been recieving thorough counselling and psychiatric intervention before getting so much as a sniff of hormone treatment, and from what I understand will continue to recieve gender counselling.  Lots of people start their journeys as young or far younger.  Even if--and this is a stonking big IF--he comes to a realisation that he is not male after all but some other gender variant, there will be plenty of opportunity to resume puberty later on.  IMO delaying puberty in this kind of case can do little harm and might save a young life.