Quote from: Shades O'Grey on June 03, 2008, 11:16:06 AM
Basically, their idea was to remove gender whenever possible. Names, rather than pronouns, were preferred, it seemed.

Using name is OK with me, as long as they don't stick Mr or Mrs in front of it  which they always seem to.

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Quote from: Zythyra on June 03, 2008, 11:22:37 AM

Quote from: Shades O'Grey on June 03, 2008, 11:16:06 AM
Basically, their idea was to remove gender whenever possible. Names, rather than pronouns, were preferred, it seemed.

Using name is OK with me, as long as they don't stick Mr or Mrs in front of it  which they always seem to.

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APA format indicates that prefixes such as Mr, Ms, and Mrs should be avoided. When referencing a source, one would use only the last name. If quoting someone, the full name is used the first time and then the last name afterwards.

the only thing that confuses me with genderqueer pronouns is how do you know if you refer to someone as zim, or zer.  its going based on the feminine/masculine thing so you are sort of implying they have an inclination in one direction which if they do cool, but what if they dont?

Quote from: queerunity on June 04, 2008, 12:25:25 AM
the only thing that confuses me with genderqueer pronouns is how do you know if you refer to someone as zim, or zer.  its going based on the feminine/masculine thing so you are sort of implying they have an inclination in one direction which if they do cool, but what if they dont?

i've often wondered the same thing...because to me hir just looks like 'her'...which is not that different for a female bodied person

Quote from: Jaimey on June 04, 2008, 06:04:10 PM
i've often wondered the same thing...because to me hir just looks like 'her'...which is not that different for a female bodied person

I always thought it looked too similar, however the pronunciation is like hear, so I guess it's different... I mostly use ze, ze's, etc, works for me since it's my initial 

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I say "hir" like "hear."  If you think about it, it's only one letter off from "him" and "his" as well.  (I wonder why the consonant change registers more strongly than the vowel?).  Ze rode hir bicyle to the shops, and bought hirself some bread.

I think queerunity is using pronouns in a different way though; not just the epicine pronoun but a system which allows pronouns for male-ish females and female-ish males, which is rather an exiting thought.  Is that right?

Quote from: tekla on June 02, 2008, 02:42:02 AM
Sounds like your professor needs to step out of the academic world once in a while and exist in the real one

Groovy, but at that moment he/she/them/they do that, they are no longer a professor.  Sorry, college writing is done by its own rules.  They are harsh, but fair.  You are there to learn a standard way to write and argue, once you are done, and know the rules, you can bend or break them, but standards are standards, and just because a few people on a web board use terms, does not make them acceptable in academic writing. 

IMO one of the issues of colleges these days. No contact with the real world. No preparation of students for what they will really encounter in their daily life.

Quote from: riven_one on June 06, 2008, 12:50:54 AM
IMO one of the issues of colleges these days. No contact with the real world. No preparation of students for what they will really encounter in their daily life.

That's not quite the same -- or rather, what Tekla is describing is a part of the preparation. In the 'real world', however you want to define it, someone with a college degree will eventually get in a 'my way or the highway' situation. With these assignments the obvious goal is to learn the topic well enough to write the paper, but it's also important to learn to be flexible enough to conform to the style requirements, some of which are pretty much arbitrary.

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