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Started by Flo, July 18, 2008, 05:25:53 PM

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Flo

Hi all,

Read an earlier post on suicidal tendicies in the TS world... 23% seems high but maybe isn't suprising.  I am curious if there a stats as to the number of people in the world, or whatever, catergorized as "suicidal", alcohol abuser/addicts etc. in comparison to the "normal" world.  Whatever that is.

My drift is that I think that TG/TS persons have  a tendency to "quiet" the inner turmoil though self medication.  I know I certainly do...hey I am far from perfect.

Do you think this is a substantiated "trend" or "trait" amongst TG/TS people when dealing with the inner turmoil to try to find "solutions" or am I wrong in asuming such?  Just want your opinion if no data is available.

OK...reason I am asking is to tell my shrinko that I am coping in the only ways I know how......sometimes...turn my mind off...BTW..I am a very anxiety prone, depressive person...but normally well rounded until facing this issue...

Just being honest

As always...

Flo
Never to old to find peace of mind...but time moves quickly
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Nero

I know that I did. I'm an ex junkie and now I'm fighting a drinking problem. I think some people are just predisposed to it and/or exposed to it at a vulnerable point.

Don't have any statistics for you, but I'd bet the percentage of TG substance abusers is higher than that of the general population. Simply because of the chronic pain of our daily lives.
Course, there are also a lot of TGs who find coping mechanisms other than drugs.
Nero was the Forum Admin here at Susan's Place for several years up to the time of his death.
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Kate

Quote from: Flo on July 18, 2008, 05:25:53 PM
Do you think this is a substantiated "trend" or "trait" amongst TG/TS people when dealing with the inner turmoil to try to find "solutions" or am I wrong in asuming such?  Just want your opinion if no data is available.

That's been my impression, yes. Self-loathing and self-destructive things like genital mutilations, cutting, suicide attempts, drug abuse... just seem so commonly reported here.

~Kate~
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Janet_Girl

From a personal view point, I had a bad drinking problem and I have tried suicide.  The drinking allowed me to be me, because people would say it was because I was drunk.  I tried to slit my waist and wound up in a psych ward  ever there I lied about myself, saying that I did not want it.  I think even the shrink there know that I was TS but he never said so.  I finally had no choice but to accept who is am and now I am happier and everyday it gets closer to being full time.  And that makes me very happy.

It seems that many TS/TG go thru a destructive phase, some succeed  ??? , and some transition.  That type of success only robs us of another Brother or Sister to share our life experiences with.  I really wish that it could be that we could get the help and support we need from society and the medical community.  But that would happen anytime so.

Janet
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vanna

yes alot of trans community hide in ourselves im pretty sure,
im also an ex junkie geese i really hate that word but hey 4 years clean and owning up to who i am. I also wouldnt be suprised if this spread into the whole self abuse culture of people who cut and injure themselves too.

I just dont think we're diagnosed enough or correctly to have real figures on the true percentages but im sure is alot higher than than previously believed. The suicide figures are always way off soley because alot of people wouldnt have left info after their death on why they really died.
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Kara Lee

Quote from: Janet Lynn on July 18, 2008, 07:51:28 PM
It seems that many TS/TG go thru a destructive phase, some succeed  ??? , and some transition.  That type of success only robs us of another Brother or Sister to share our life experiences with.

Janet

Well, you done went and nearly got me crying.  I don't really know how to put it into words right now but it sure is not fair to people that they have to fight so hard just to be themselves, fight against themselves and if they survive that then they have to fight the rest of the world.
I'm glad to say that I survived my destructive phase but it sure brings back some tears remembering that time.  I don't know if I will ever be past it fully (it is a part of me after all) but I know that I'm much better now than ever before.
"Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." -- Benjamin Franklin
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Janet_Girl

Quote from: Kara Lee on July 18, 2008, 10:23:42 PM
Quote from: Janet Lynn on July 18, 2008, 07:51:28 PM
It seems that many TS/TG go thru a destructive phase, some succeed  ??? , and some transition.  That type of success only robs us of another Brother or Sister to share our life experiences with.

Janet

Well, you done went and nearly got me crying.  I don't really know how to put it into words right now but it sure is not fair to people that they have to fight so hard just to be themselves, fight against themselves and if they survive that then they have to fight the rest of the world.
I'm glad to say that I survived my destructive phase but it sure brings back some tears remembering that time.  I don't know if I will ever be past it fully (it is a part of me after all) but I know that I'm much better now than ever before.

I am sorry Kara Lee, but it also makes me cry to think of all the time that I wasted on destructive behavior, when I could have been me.  But it is much better now.

Love,
Janet
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Flo

I feel I was wrong in posting this.  I never meant to bring up bad memories for anyone, and the general line of thought for myself is wrong...a vain attempt to find an excuse.  Maybe I'm to the point that I shouldn't use being TG as an excuse. 

I am a substance abuser, and my original, internal...but wrong... thinking was.."hey, it's more evident in the TG/TS population so I'm not that abnormal" but that still doesn't justify me being so self-destructive, does it?  Nothing does.  Maybe..maybe not...see there I go again.

Who's to blame

Kara Lee...I cry every day

To all who replied, you are very special and great thanks,

Maybe I am trying to heal?   

No one said it would be easy

Flo
Never to old to find peace of mind...but time moves quickly
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Shana A

I also did the self medication thing, thankfully that was many years ago, and I don't do it anymore. I don't know if it's a higher percentage in the t community, but it wouldn't be surprising. When pain is great, one either wants to try and diminish the pain, or hide, as opposed to looking at our issues and selves in the psychic mirror.

Z
"Be yourself; everyone else is already taken." Oscar Wilde


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NicholeW.

Dearest Flo,

:icon_hug: If you are bothered by posting this publically in any way, you don't have to. But, more than a few of us have been in similar circumstances and to recall the past sometimes is painful. Go at whatever speed is necessary for you and if you need to do so do so privately with someone you trust. Or in a group with others who have been subject to the same terror and brutalizing.   >:(

And yes, the public posting may bring up memories for others that they imagine they would rather not have dredged up. My experience with some of the same problems you are posting about has also been that until you can actually share this and work with it with other survivors that it will continue to haunt you and release itself in ways that will make you ashamed, guilty and likely to self-harm.

No one should be destroyed by a past incident/s that they were not in any way complicit in. Yet, that's exactly what occurs with many of us. The perps keep themselves alive for us in overwhelming memories and in acting-out in ways that are extremely harmful to us, not to them. It's as though their influence and terror continue long after one was visited by them.  :icon_hug:

IMO, you cannot allow that to continue to occur by repressing it yet more than you've done. But, a public, very public, forum is probably not the place to relieve the pain. Such relief is, of necessity for the survivor, something best done in private, or better in a group of other survivors.

To confess one's "sins," especially when the sins are not sins, but are having been sinned against and then internalizing the guilt and degradation to one's own harm, publically as a kind of penance, is absolutely not recommended. That merely recapitulates the already overwhelming shame and sense of "what did I do that made this happen."

The direct and simple answer to that is "I did nothing at all. They did." It's a very difficult place to reach for many of us.

Whomever harmed you already "put you on a cross to die." You, no one, needs to keep herself there as a tribute almost to the monstrousness of the perp. Please, don't do so anymore. OK?  :angel:

You are going to get through this and be healthy and content in your life. You are not required to suffer to gain absolution, luv. There is nothing to absolve but the fact that you have tried to pay a price that wasn't yours to pay. That has been way more than enough. And more, you are not alone, either in your attempts to cope or in your experiences.  :icon_bunch:

Come away from that, sister. Come away.  :icon_hug: :icon_hug: :icon_hug:

Love,

Nichole

 
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deviousxen

I can tell to a certain extent that I am predisposed to addiction in some ways. Its evident in how I crave food sometimes, or caffeine, or sexual activity... Etc

I'm majorly depressive and have been getting worsening anxiety. Of course... My anxiety was always kinda bad, cause I used to also just not sleep. I was less afraid of killing my self, than losing some game or becoming useless to the machine where I was a busted cog. Kinda hard to explain I suppose...


PS: I just lost the game
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Kara Lee

No No, don't feel bad about how others react, I cry about those times anyway but in remembering them I can see how much better my life is now than it was then.  Sometimes those tears are from that realization and not just because of the old memories.
It helps me a lot seeing others post here because I have such a hard time putting my thoughts down and...see, I'm doing it again, not sure how to write it down, but thank you for your post even if I can't be more productive than the thank you.

Quote from: Flo on July 19, 2008, 02:29:25 AM
I feel I was wrong in posting this.  I never meant to bring up bad memories for anyone, and the general line of thought for myself is wrong...a vain attempt to find an excuse.  Maybe I'm to the point that I shouldn't use being TG as an excuse. 

I am a substance abuser, and my original, internal...but wrong... thinking was.."hey, it's more evident in the TG/TS population so I'm not that abnormal" but that still doesn't justify me being so self-destructive, does it?  Nothing does.  Maybe..maybe not...see there I go again.

Who's to blame

Kara Lee...I cry every day

To all who replied, you are very special and great thanks,

Maybe I am trying to heal?   

No one said it would be easy

Flo
"Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." -- Benjamin Franklin
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cindybc

Hi Flo hon, It is not uncommon for some of us to resort to alcohol or drugs, I myself drank alcoholically for nearly thirty years, using alcohol as an escape from reality. I have also worked with street people and in other fields as a social worker. I will keep it narrowed down to street people, specifically with our sisters since those are whom we are speaking of and my work is mostly centered around TS at this time. Unfortunately a lot of our sisters, some of them willingly take to the streets as hookers in the hopes they can get the funds necessary to transition, and others end up there because no one will give them employment.

One on the streets it is only just to easy to get hooked on some type of drugs or another, more so then alcohol. It just saddens me so much to see these girls where after a few short years of living in those conditions they remind me more of wounded animals then any type of healthy human beings that they once were. Only caricatures of who they once were, often sick frightened and depressed and very paranoid. I do this work because I care, not because I love doing it. But many times I find myself crying silently to myself.

Damned the Pusherman, Steppin Wolf.



Cindy
   
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