Transphobic Tropes #3 – "Reifying Gender"

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7/21/2008

Basically, it's the notion that, by medically transitioning, we reify gender—which is something that feminism is supposed to be destroying. 

That is true for many feminists.

ok....
this must be an upperlevel class....
i don't understand enough of the words
to grasp the sense of the article.......


yet!

It means that the more advanced feminists want to get beyond gender, the old school thinks that biology is destiny.

That rocked. Thanks, Natasha.

On a somewhat off topic note:

I actually have a lot of feminists pissed off at me for transitioning. They think that I think gender matters so much and that being male would make me superior or something. They just don't seem to get it. That's who I am. They say gender doesn't really exist, but it does... Are these feminazis/extremists?

Well, let's not throw around slurs invented by Rush Libaugh ... But, yes, there is a strain in feminism of bigotry toward, well, pretty much any people whose identity could be transgender.

It's hardly just feminism. In any group that one might think would be natural trans allies, you can find a few bigots -- feminists, gay men and lesbians, the poor, ethnic minorities, even transgendered people of a different sort, pretty much any oppressed group. When people suffer oppression, it's a natural tendency to look around for someone lower on the totem pole to oppress. I think you are experiencing exactly the hypocrisy that the blog is pointing out.

Then I was on topic! Yay! 

On topic = plus two bonus points, using a Rush Limbaugh term, minus 10.

Quote from: tekla on July 21, 2008, 11:24:30 PMOn topic = plus two bonus points, using a Rush Limbaugh term, minus 10.

Limbaugh popularized, but not Limbaugh made.

Even if it makes your point, quoting Adolph Hitler will not win the argument.  And the only thing that Rush hates more than feminists, is perhaps you.  But don't take my word for it, call him and give him your story and find out how much sympathy he has for TG persons.

Except Hitler had made a lot of the things he said. Limbaugh popularized and already exist terms.

I don't care about "being right" as much as you do.

Quote from: tekla on July 21, 2008, 11:56:41 PM
Even if it makes your point, quoting Adolph Hitler will not win the argument.  And the only thing that Rush hates more than feminists, is perhaps you.  But don't take my word for it, call him and give him your story and find out how much sympathy he has for TG persons.

Godwin's Law.

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is Goodwin's law, no bringing Hitler into arguments where he shouldn't be?

Pica Pica, Google is your friend.

"As a Usenet discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one." Basically, it's seen as a way of automatically losing an argument, kind of like pocketing the 8-ball in pool. But it's typically tounge-in-cheek.


I suppose the term "feminazi" is itself a Nazi analogy, regardless who coined it or popularized it.

google is not my friend, it is my annoying neighbour that keeps trying to force himself into my kitchen and force my cakes in his gullet.

Quote from: Pica Pica on July 22, 2008, 04:19:09 PM
google is not my friend, it is my annoying neighbour that keeps trying to force himself into my kitchen and force my cakes in his gullet.

Is it the force, the cakes, or the neighbor in general you have a problem with Pica?

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