QuoteQuote from: JENNIFER on Today at 21:12:37
I am sorry but I have to ask you something pertinent,  What length of urethra does a woman need to have a wee?   


Hmm I don't know how reliable wikipedia is but here's what I found:

Male Urethra: In the human male, the urethra is about 8 inches (15 cm) long and opens at the end of the penis. The inside of the urethra has a spiral groove (like rifling in a gun barrel), which makes the urine flow in a wide stream.

Female Urethra: In the human female, the urethra is about 1 1/2-2 inches (3-5 cm) long and opens in the vulva between the clitoris and the vaginal opening, extending from the internal to the external urethral orifice. It is placed behind the symphysis pubis, embedded in the anterior wall of the vagina, and its direction is obliquely downward and forward; it is slightly curved with the concavity directed forward.

I am sorry, my point was missed. I was trying torelate to how relevent a 'pee tube' was to gender.  Clearly a female has a somewhat shorter urethra than that of a male and I was attempting to question penis length in relation to having a wee and whether it matters

You're welcome, Havok. You guys are all wonderful fellows. Makes me quite glad to find I've actually said something a man listens to!!

N~

Ooh.. when I mean that 3 inch is too small.. I mean that, using public bathrooms (or places where you'll have to stand and pee) it might be hard. From what Ive heard.. its hard to just pull down the zipper and hold the packer like a fleshpenis, cause its too small, causing people to pee on their pants

Quote from: Drik on July 23, 2008, 05:16:06 PM
Ooh.. when I mean that 3 inch is too small.. I mean that, using public bathrooms (or places where you'll have to stand and pee) it might be hard. From what Ive heard.. its hard to just pull down the zipper and hold the packer like a fleshpenis, cause its too small, causing people to pee on their pants

1ST, They should be concentrating on their own peeing and not scrutinising your equipment.

2ND, If you are in that situation, you shall be well aware of how best to avoid 'accidents' and you always have the option of a private cubicle in most venues. 

I think mine was around 1 1/2 to 2 inches and it could have gone to 4 inches flacid, depending on how cold I was. I had no problems. You don't wait until that last moment to go pee. In the mens room, they don't look at you, if they do it could mean trouble. You stare at the wall until your done. Don't worry about anyone else. Then leave.

Quote from: JENNIFER on July 23, 2008, 04:47:45 PM

QuoteQuote from: JENNIFER on Today at 21:12:37
I am sorry but I have to ask you something pertinent,  What length of urethra does a woman need to have a wee?   


Hmm I don't know how reliable wikipedia is but here's what I found:

Male Urethra: In the human male, the urethra is about 8 inches (15 cm) long and opens at the end of the penis. The inside of the urethra has a spiral groove (like rifling in a gun barrel), which makes the urine flow in a wide stream.

Female Urethra: In the human female, the urethra is about 1 1/2-2 inches (3-5 cm) long and opens in the vulva between the clitoris and the vaginal opening, extending from the internal to the external urethral orifice. It is placed behind the symphysis pubis, embedded in the anterior wall of the vagina, and its direction is obliquely downward and forward; it is slightly curved with the concavity directed forward.

I am sorry, my point was missed. I was trying torelate to how relevent a 'pee tube' was to gender.  Clearly a female has a somewhat shorter urethra than that of a male and I was attempting to question penis length in relation to having a wee and whether it matters

Ahhhh. Thought you were asking for your benefit. Well, it's relevant for whenever in the future I begin my RLE and have to start using male restrooms. I use the bathroom quite frequently so there's no option of "holding it til I get home" for me. I guess it matters because it's harder to make it look like you're peeing standing up, even if you're in a stall, especially when the equipment you've got isn't made for that. Also, I like the idea of having a packer. Even if it's not a real penis, it makes me feel like I'll at least be one step closer to having one. And third, when I begin RLE I want to look as much like a male as possible. Even if this body doesn't have the parts, I can at least substitute them to look how I feel inside.

Quote from: JENNIFER on July 23, 2008, 05:26:57 PM

Quote from: Drik on July 23, 2008, 05:16:06 PM
Ooh.. when I mean that 3 inch is too small.. I mean that, using public bathrooms (or places where you'll have to stand and pee) it might be hard. From what Ive heard.. its hard to just pull down the zipper and hold the packer like a fleshpenis, cause its too small, causing people to pee on their pants

1ST, They should be concentrating on their own peeing and not scrutinising your equipment.

2ND, If you are in that situation, you shall be well aware of how best to avoid 'accidents' and you always have the option of a private cubicle in most venues. 

Lol Jen I think Drik was trying to say that the one with the packer (ie the FTM using the fake penis) is the one who's going to be peeing on themselves because a three incher is hard to use. It's hard to use one that size when you haven't practiced all your life I suppose

Quote from: trapthavok on July 23, 2008, 06:09:55 PM
Lol Jen I think Drik was trying to say that the one with the packer (ie the FTM using the fake penis) is the one who's going to be peeing on themselves because a three incher is hard to use. It's hard to use one that size when you haven't practiced all your life I suppose

LOL.
yes, exactly.
thanks dude ^_^

Quote from: trapthavok on July 22, 2008, 12:47:52 PM
I'm 5'6 so I feel like I'm in limbo. Not short but not tall, so I don't know what's an "appropriate" size.

I'm FTM; I'm only 5'2".  My husband (non-trans) is only 5'5".  Our best male friend (non-trans) is only 5'4".  (I've never measured their flacid penises, though.)  Anyhow...hang out with us and you'll feel tall.   

QuoteReply email from mango products: Hi Nathan,
I have only a few of the 5 1/2 in. Mangos left, but no more Packys. I suggest you
order soon. One to a customer, please.
Thanks

WTF does this mean?? Aren't mangos and packys the same thing on that site?? And they didn't answer my question if they had the chocolate color or not, just the size. Annoying. Can anyone decode that email for me?

Quote from: Benjamin on July 23, 2008, 08:05:17 PM

Quote from: trapthavok on July 22, 2008, 12:47:52 PM
I'm 5'6 so I feel like I'm in limbo. Not short but not tall, so I don't know what's an "appropriate" size.

I'm FTM; I'm only 5'2".  My husband (non-trans) is only 5'5".  Our best male friend (non-trans) is only 5'4".  (I've never measured their flacid penises, though.)  Anyhow...hang out with us and you'll feel tall.   

Haha nice. I like standing next to people and feeling tall, but I wouldn't take advantage of you guys that way!

QuoteWTF does this mean?? Aren't mangos and packys the same thing on that site?? And they didn't answer my question if they had the chocolate color or not, just the size. Annoying. Can anyone decode that email for me?

A mango is an STP device, which is basically the packy with a latex tube and receptacle/spoon inserted.

A packy is just that, the packer, with no tubing or stp device inserted.

The packy is cheap (around $12 or so); the Mango is like $65.

I have both.  My fave is the 3.5" packy but you can't pee with it.  I do like the Mango stp in the 5.5", but I hate the balls because they're too thin and flimsy.  The balls on the short packy are more realistic in size (imho).

That's why I made an STP out of my packy.

Jay

If he's very short, Nero, than I must be a midget!

Well, I'm not short for a MEXICAN dude. Now if only I was Mexican... I know quite a few Mexican guys that are shorter than me!

As for dick size, it's not always proportional to the body. Just to let you know. But it's probably smarter (and nicer looking) to choose an appropriate size.

Have your tried Good Vibrations?  I understand their "soft pack" is pretty nice. (I've not seen it in person, so I can't comment personally.)  They're based out of Berkley, CA, so they may keep a better stock of different colors, especially since they have their own products special-made for them, rather than relying on what they can buy out of China.

My Mango packer took for freakin' ever to arrive, so next time I'll shell out the little bit extra and buy Stateside.  The GV Soft pack will definitely be on my shortlist.

Quote from: sneakersjay on July 23, 2008, 11:14:11 PM

QuoteWTF does this mean?? Aren't mangos and packys the same thing on that site?? And they didn't answer my question if they had the chocolate color or not, just the size. Annoying. Can anyone decode that email for me?

A mango is an STP device, which is basically the packy with a latex tube and receptacle/spoon inserted.

A packy is just that, the packer, with no tubing or stp device inserted.

The packy is cheap (around $12 or so); the Mango is like $65.

I have both.  My fave is the 3.5" packy but you can't pee with it.  I do like the Mango stp in the 5.5", but I hate the balls because they're too thin and flimsy.  The balls on the short packy are more realistic in size (imho).

That's why I made an STP out of my packy.

Jay

Thanks Jay, that's honestly helpful

Quote from: Elwood on July 23, 2008, 11:35:02 PM
As for dick size, it's not always proportional to the body. Just to let you know. But it's probably smarter (and nicer looking) to choose an appropriate size.

Yeah but how many have I seen?  Or wanted to see  I think from what I know I should probably have a 4 inch, that would be an appropriate size to me, but apparently they only come in 3 or 5, too small or too big -.-

Quote from: Jamie-o on July 24, 2008, 05:02:42 AM
Have your tried Good Vibrations?  I understand their "soft pack" is pretty nice. (I've not seen it in person, so I can't comment personally.)  They're based out of Berkley, CA, so they may keep a better stock of different colors, especially since they have their own products special-made for them, rather than relying on what they can buy out of China.

My Mango packer took for freakin' ever to arrive, so next time I'll shell out the little bit extra and buy Stateside.  The GV Soft pack will definitely be on my shortlist.

No not yet but thanks for the tip!

Mango did take forever to ship (1 month) but they were up front about it.  It was worth the wait.

The Good Vibe says it's made of Cyberskin.  Cyberskin feels real, but it smells fake (IMO) and is porous and hard to clean.

I've heard good things about the Mr. Right, which is silicone.  I have a Lola Jake silicone packer (and Sam Plus).  The packer is firmer than the cheapy packy and always points down.  I wore it 24/7 on vacation to see if I'd like it and bottom line is I do NOT like it; I like to be able to *play* with myself (in private, at night, LOL) and with it being in a fixed position that's hard to do (personal preference on my part).

The larger Lola Jake Pack & Play models -- I forked over $600 and am NOT happy with it (unrealisitic coloring, plastic/rubber feel, stp hole not right).  I posted a review a week or so ago; you can scroll to find it.

Jay

Quote from: trapthavok on July 24, 2008, 10:02:44 AM

Quote from: Elwood on July 23, 2008, 11:35:02 PMAs for dick size, it's not always proportional to the body. Just to let you know. But it's probably smarter (and nicer looking) to choose an appropriate size.

Yeah but how many have I seen?  Or wanted to see  I think from what I know I should probably have a 4 inch, that would be an appropriate size to me, but apparently they only come in 3 or 5, too small or too big -.-

Meh. As soon as I questioned my gender, I got curious enough to go penis-hunting online. I wanted to become really familiar with it so that I won't settle with ->-bleeped-<-ty looking surgeries.

Since I like to be modest about packing, I'd go too small rather than too big. Too big to me feels like over compensating. But that's just my opinion.

Quote from: sneakersjay on July 24, 2008, 10:39:20 AM
Mango did take forever to ship (1 month) but they were up front about it.  It was worth the wait.

The Good Vibe says it's made of Cyberskin.  Cyberskin feels real, but it smells fake (IMO) and is porous and hard to clean.

I've heard good things about the Mr. Right, which is silicone.  I have a Lola Jake silicone packer (and Sam Plus).  The packer is firmer than the cheapy packy and always points down.  I wore it 24/7 on vacation to see if I'd like it and bottom line is I do NOT like it; I like to be able to *play* with myself (in private, at night, LOL) and with it being in a fixed position that's hard to do (personal preference on my part).

The larger Lola Jake Pack & Play models -- I forked over $600 and am NOT happy with it (unrealisitic coloring, plastic/rubber feel, stp hole not right).  I posted a review a week or so ago; you can scroll to find it.

Jay

Hmmm I really like the Mango. Good heads up about the other company. I don't really want to have to make the STP myself, honestly.

Quote from: Elwood on July 24, 2008, 07:24:54 PM

Quote from: trapthavok on July 24, 2008, 10:02:44 AM

Quote from: Elwood on July 23, 2008, 11:35:02 PMAs for dick size, it's not always proportional to the body. Just to let you know. But it's probably smarter (and nicer looking) to choose an appropriate size.

Yeah but how many have I seen?  Or wanted to see  I think from what I know I should probably have a 4 inch, that would be an appropriate size to me, but apparently they only come in 3 or 5, too small or too big -.-

Meh. As soon as I questioned my gender, I got curious enough to go penis-hunting online. I wanted to become really familiar with it so that I won't settle with ->-bleeped-<-ty looking surgeries.

Since I like to be modest about packing, I'd go too small rather than too big. Too big to me feels like over compensating. But that's just my opinion.

I'm going to use my STP as a packer simultaneously, so I can only spend my money once I don't really have money to throw around. I just want something that's going to at least appear realistic (with my pants on I mean) I want to look as real as possible. Plus I don't want to pee on myself like Drik said ><

I've seen penises online, but only when I started looking for packers did I start looking purposely. I still don't like looking at them purposely but I figure that's because they gross me out sexually and I need to remind myself I'm just doing research and not looking at them that way.

Quote from: trapthavok on July 22, 2008, 12:47:52 PM
So this is probably a horrible question, but it's been bugging me.

With STPs is it easier to use the bathroom when you've got a 3incher? (Can you use it one handed instead of two handed?)
Does it really matter what size you get?

When I get one, I plan on using stalls still, not urinals, just cause I want to take the extra precaution. But I just wanted to make sure I don't necessarily need a realistic size. I'm 5'6 so I feel like I'm in limbo. Not short but not tall, so I don't know what's an "appropriate" size.

Also, one last question on STPs....is a harness best?

i have never heard that there is a correlation of a man's height to his, um, length.

all of the guys i ever met that had a really "scary" length, were just average height.

I'd say even though I use a sock I fold it in such a way that it looks pretty real even with just my underwear on. What's fake about it is how it doesn't really move and it doesn't feel real at all.

I don't think penises would gross me out sexually even if I was a heterosexual male because guys like hand jobs and stuff (generally).

Thanks ell!!


Hmm...My sister says one of the reasons she could never be lesbian is that vaginas gross her out I just figured I had the same thing going with me and penises.

Quote from: trapthavok on July 24, 2008, 08:28:56 PM
Thanks ell!!

Hmm...My sister says one of the reasons she could never be lesbian is that vaginas gross her out I just figured I had the same thing going with me and penises.

LOL!

i'm almost afraid to ask for a clarification there.