I have heard that some people can change personality types throughout the day, and some change over the course of their lifetime. I am wondering how many took one of these tests before and after transition and what were the results. Has it changed, or is it the same?

A few people here have claimed they became more outgoing after transition which would make some sense but I am curious if an MBTI result confirms this.

I don't know nuttin' 'bout no tests, but I'm pretty sure that to the degree that you are liking yourself more, feeling better about your life, and see yourself as making progress toward a goal you want, you would be more at ease with others, and more outgoing.

I've taken numerous such tests, before and after transition, and every single time I've consistently come up INFP.

Quote from: tekla on July 28, 2008, 05:22:22 PMto the degree that you are liking yourself more, feeling better about your life, and see yourself as making progress toward a goal you want, you would be more at ease with others, and more outgoing.

That's true too. I'm still basically introverted but now I have a healthy social life because once I accepted myself I immediately became more outgoing. Before I came out, I was closed in upon myself and had no friends. As soon as I came out, I began to have tons of friends.

I've been INFP both before and after as well. For one thing, the I=introvert and the E=extrovert are not referring to introvert and extrovert in terms of how outgoing someone is, like in every day talk. Instead they are referring to from where one derives her impetus for life and being, from internal or external sources.

Thus, a person can be an "introvert" but outgoing as well. That has been true for me. I am much more outgoing, but my motivation and energy come from within me, not from external sources.

Nichole 

That explains it, thanks.

You're most welcome, Philosopher Lady! The MBPI uses psych-talk.

N~

Quote from: Nichole on July 28, 2008, 10:33:45 PM
I've been INFP both before and after as well. For one thing, the I=introvert and the E=extrovert are not referring to introvert and extrovert in terms of how outgoing someone is, like in every day talk. Instead they are referring to from where one derives her impetus for life and being, from internal or external sources.

Thus, a person can be an "introvert" but outgoing as well. That has been true for me. I am much more outgoing, but my motivation and energy come from within me, not from external sources.

Nichole 

Thanks Nichole, that makes sense.

i once scored as INFP but have consistently come up ENFP whenever I've repeated it.  In the scoring I'm close to the middle.  Whatever that means.

Back in the day I scored as a INTP lol... I don't think so anymore.

Edit: I just scored as INFP.

Another INFP here... interesting how many of us are here... either that or we're the only people posting in this thread 

Z

I've taken it three times.  It has always been ISFJ.  Although some of my scales have seemed to move closer to the center, especially the I-E scale, the bottom line has not really changed, and I have changed a lot over the course of these tests.  I also work with people and use this test as a tool.  I have yet to see anybody's core designation change significantly.  What can change is the weight of each part, and this is usually based on life circumstances.

Peace,
Kristi

I've always been an INTP.  That's not about to change.

The results are generally valid ... there's both an internal & external consistency to the inventory. It doesn't change much over a lifespan. As someone said, Kristi I think, there can be changes within a person's range, but as she also said that tends to be from life-events, experience, not from errors in the inventory.

In general, if someone answers the inventory truthfully every time they take an inventory the letters should remain the same over a lifespan, although the scores that form those letter designations will, and do, change.

Nichole

I've never really liked the MBTI classifications.  Mainly because I feel like I have characteristics from many of the different types.  The only one I'm sure about is the first letter.  I'm definitely an introvert.  But when I try to figure out whether I'm an 'S' or an 'N'.  Or 'F' or 'T' I'm just completely confused because I can see aspects of myself in both of those categories.

I suppose that just means I'm border line on several different personality types.  Even when I've taken online (and offline) tests which are written to cull out what you are based on how you answer questions, I seem to flip flop back and fourth through several of the choices depending on what test it is.

*lol* Maybe I just don't know who I am. ^_^  That's a quite probable possibility.

-Floating

Quote from: sd on July 28, 2008, 05:17:27 PM
A few people here have claimed they became more outgoing after transition which would make some sense but I am curious if an MBTI result confirms this.

I can't prove it with a test, but my wife tells me that she's actually *scared* of me now, because I'll pretty much just do ANYTHING on the spur of the moment... which is SO not like me. My Standard Answer to everything used to be, "no, not now OK?" These days it's "Sure! When can we go? I'll drive!"

I'm SO different that she doesn't feel she can predict me anymore... nor can I... which is sorta unsettling for both of us, lol.

~Kate~

I agree, Nichole.  The results are valid if the person answers truthfully.  This may not be as easy as it sounds.   For many years the I-E scale was misunderstood.  Introverts were thought to be shy, reserved, timid people who were not as valued in our culture as Extroverts.  But that has little to do with it.  And as a result, most Introverts began skewing the tests toward the E side.  I even did that one myself unknowingly.  But we now know that Introverts, while they do not make the best politicians for example, are some of the most accomplished and gifted musicians, poets, philosophers, scientists, and even public speakers.  Why?  Because they have thought very deeply about their subject matter in a way that an Extrovert cannot do.  And they are able to form deeper relationships than Extroverts, though the number of them is more limited.  We need to stop the silly cultural reconstruction that values one personality type over another.  And the truth is, we have all of the types in each of us.  We can learn to develop our weaker sides for when they are needed.  This awareness is, IMHO, one of the greatest strengths of the MBTI.

Kristi

I cannot add anything to your post, Kristi. That was just fantastic.

N~

One of it's great flaws is that it's built on the dubious ideas of Carl Jung.  Jung was a fascinating guy and had very interesting ideas but like Freud, they are based on his limited experience of the world. 

Ok well thought would try one of them tests, only probelm is one found asks me for my gender....   I don't know what to put... 

Quote from: Claire de Lune on July 29, 2008, 10:02:41 AM
One of it's great flaws is that it's built on the dubious ideas of Carl Jung.  Jung was a fascinating guy and had very interesting ideas but like Freud, they are based on his limited experience of the world. 

Now that is a defining characteristic that covers everyone. Or are you of the opinion that some of us have "unlimited" experiences of the world? I know you are not. Your point is a good one about any psychological-based or any other-based personality inventory, Claire. But, it's a rather universal commentary on them all. Ken Wilbur's own opinions about his own work notwithstanding!!

And just as Freud has been re-defined and updated and changed by his followers, so has Jung. James Hillman and to a great extent Thomas Moore come to my mind. The archetypal structure doesn't appeal to everyone, but there are things in Jungian psychology that certainly make as much sense as the strictly behaviorist/utilitarian leanings of most American branches.

One may always integrate. In fact one probably should.

N~