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Started by icontact, August 31, 2008, 10:00:46 PM

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Quote from: Elwood on August 31, 2008, 11:25:42 PM
LOL. I CRACKED UP WHEN THEY DID THAT. I thought that was hilarious. And I LOVED that scene where Borat and that other guy were chasing each other naked. That was freaking hilarious, lol... Sacha Baron Cohen is my freaking hero.

Don't get me wrong, the scene where they ran through the hotel naked was HILARIOUS. It was just the whole "balls in face" part in the hotel room that was disgusting. Plus the fat guy kept flashing the audience with his balls  :-X

Quote from: Elwood on September 01, 2008, 12:51:50 PM
When I see both bioguys and their anatomy my insides melt with grief. I keep thinking, "That will never be me." Especially since they're almost always 5 inches taller than me or more. I know; there is such a thing as being too tall...
I feel that way too. I'm really jealous most especially of one cousin I'm really close to, it's almost like he has the perfect male body and I will never be him. It's not just the height I notice, it's the broad shoulders, the extremely flat chest....The way men's clothes don't seem to make them look extremely short and small and dyke-ish like it does for me...


Quote from: Elwood on September 01, 2008, 12:51:50 PM
I am the only transguy I've ever known who's bones show right through the skin.

If it makes you feel better Elwood, I'm one of those trans guys. You can see my wrist bones plain as day and before boobs, you used to be able to see my ribs really easy. My arms are ten times thinner than a normal person's arms should be, so I'm hoping that by building  muscle I can get the up to normal size at least.

Quote from: freespeechz on September 01, 2008, 02:16:08 PM
Yeah, on Mango, next to all their Cybercock prosthetics, they have one or two models for post-medio guys.

Lol I was wondering what that was. I really don't want the enlarged clit but if it makes sex better like Joey said then hell, bring on the T :) I'm still trying to figure out how that works with the enlarged clit and all but...
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Elwood

Quote from: trapthavok on September 01, 2008, 04:08:25 PM
Quote from: Elwood on September 01, 2008, 12:51:50 PMWhen I see both bioguys and their anatomy my insides melt with grief. I keep thinking, "That will never be me." Especially since they're almost always 5 inches taller than me or more. I know; there is such a thing as being too tall...
I feel that way too. I'm really jealous most especially of one cousin I'm really close to, it's almost like he has the perfect male body and I will never be him. It's not just the height I notice, it's the broad shoulders, the extremely flat chest....The way men's clothes don't seem to make them look extremely short and small and dyke-ish like it does for me...
I like my structure. I am small, but my proportions are good. I just don't like being so short. I wouldn't ask for bigger shoulders or a bigger body. Just taller... And I guess my body a little bigger to go with that but you know what I mean.

As for the flat chest, I know my top surgery will come eventually, so I'm not too worried about that. I'm mostly worried about the things I feel like I cannot change. My height and my lack of penis.

Quote from: trapthavok on September 01, 2008, 04:08:25 PM
Quote from: Elwood on September 01, 2008, 12:51:50 PMI am the only transguy I've ever known who's bones show right through the skin.
If it makes you feel better Elwood, I'm one of those trans guys. You can see my wrist bones plain as day and before boobs, you used to be able to see my ribs really easy. My arms are ten times thinner than a normal person's arms should be, so I'm hoping that by building  muscle I can get the up to normal size at least.
Hmm. So we maybe are somewhat similar.

My dad is a small in men's clothing, though he has long legs so it's hard to get him pants. His bones aren't a great deal larger than mine; he's just got man meat on top of it. He's still 5'11", though. I'm pretty jealous of that. But his arms are really not a great deal thicker than mine when it comes to bone structure... that helped me feel better. His ribcage, however, is obviously bigger.



(And that's his new shoulder, lol)
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Mister

I spend two days away from the internet and look what happens?  A thread with four hundred things to respond to!

I think many people first think they do not want testosterone.  Many of those folks change their minds and end up on T.  I'm 5'10 with a naturally broad build and didn't need it to pass.  I eventually decided to start to stop my periods and haven't looked back since. 

The head of your clit looks very similar to the head of a penis.  When you're erect, it becomes much more apparent.  You may have to pull the skin back a bit to see it, especially at first, but it's absolutely there.  And it's insanely sensitive. 

Most dildos do not have a 'ball thing' on the back.  I've seen them on some Mango products and the Tyron2. Since I do not and have not used either, I have no experience with them.  The brand I use as a flat back- which is significantly more common- and rubs me the right way.  Not painful at all and actually a nice sensation. 
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Christo

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Quote from: freespeechz on August 31, 2008, 10:00:46 PM
I wish there was a checklist option, just check off what you want and leave the rest alone.

Any thoughts?

theres a list.  ur list.  u do what u want 2 do & dont worry 'bout what other ppl r doin. I'm kinda like u.  I dont want bottom surgery I'm on T. had top surgery last yr & plan 2 have a hysto but thats it.
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Jay

Quote from: sneakersjay on September 01, 2008, 07:28:36 AM
For me there was no debate, not once I truly realized I was trans and that transition was possible.  I met a guy who transitioned nearly 10 years ago, and he is so male, 100% guy.  That is what I want.  If I'm overly hairy, cool!  If I go bald, well, I'm a guy.  It happens.  Clit growth?  Well, it's not a penis but will have to do.  Looking at fully transitioned guys clinched it for me.

Before I knew/admitted I was trans, I'd find pics of guy's anatomy and think, if that's all I get, why bother?  I'd also see their hairy legs and bellys and think EEWWW!  But then, I couldn't see the rest of their pics to see that they looked MALE.  I was imagining I'd look like  a  hairy woman, and that was NOT appealing.

Truly I had no idea that transitioning and passing 100% as male was even possible, but when I realized the results with T were fantastic, I knew I was going to take it.

Jay

I am with you here Jay. I am on T because I want the physical affects I want the facial hair (fingers crossed) the weight distribution and the voice drop. My clit has grown bigger but nothing out of the massive or weird its not that big.. But still I have noticed it.. Don't know if sex is any better or not! As haven't had any for a long time and I don't particularly want to have it again with someone as I have built up a wall. I'm to insecure.  :'(


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Mister

Quote from: Chris on September 02, 2008, 02:01:08 AM
Quote from: freespeechz on August 31, 2008, 10:00:46 PM
I wish there was a checklist option, just check off what you want and leave the rest alone.

Any thoughts?
\ stuff down there grows but not to much. u still gotta pack so I dunno bout other dudes that say they r long & can penetrate b4 bottom surgery ???.  that aint possible if you havent got a meta or phallo.  Yep u can do it w/a cyberskin dick & stuff but not w/ur own.  ;)

Yes it is.  I did it two hours ago.
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Wing Walker

May I share a few thoughts with you?

I am M to F and I am pre-op.  I am blesseed with being two-spirited, living two lives, one in each gender, in the same body.  Not everyone has that gift.  Maybe I am out-of-touch with reality but here goes...

I was born with an undersized penis, one testicle not well-formed, and no motile sperm.  I had hair all over me (including on my face), upper body muscles and male geometry, and a T level of over 600 (I recall 720 but I may err).  I did not know about my genitals and sperm until I was married for five years and my ex wanted a baby so I was blissfully ignorant until then.  Had I let that bother me I would have been totally destroyed as a male and unable to function sexually.

When I was a teenager I knew that I loved and worshipped girls and that I wanted to be the best guy in the world for the one who would call me "hers."  Yes, I had a need to belong to a girl, and I learned a lot about how to be the best me that I could.  I was not a huge guy, just 5 ft., 9.5 inches tall, 137 pounds, but I was determined to be a good catch.

To be the best me that I could in order to find a girl who would be mine and make me hers, I learned about manners, dating etiquette, the fine art of conversation, how to read and understand someone else's feelings, to cheer them up when blue, to hear them when they talked, and to listen sincerely. 

Concerning sex, I read about the female response and took some cues from many sources.  It was 1970 and info about sex was everywhere, so I read "The Sensuous Woman" by J; "The Sensuous Male" by M.;the Kama Sutra, and I assure you that I looked at the "Playboy Advisor" and other popular sources to learn how to please and in that way to be pleased myself.

My belief is that the largest, most important sexual organ for both genders is the brain, and that the genitals and other erogenous zones are merely ways of activating the brain.  One need not have a penis to do that, I assure you, because the last thing I wanted to do was to penetrate my partner.  I could have lived quite well without it and I didn't do it until she was about begging to feel penetration.  I love foreplay and I have done it with my fingers, hands, tongue, breath, and nose, and I rarely failed to please.

Your partner is your business but if you decide to keep your female genitals and do T, and you have an enlarged clit, like maybe 1 to 2 inches of clit, guys and savvy women will beat a path to your door.  Why?  It is soooooo hot!  If I had the opportunity to provide stimulation to the lucky transwoman who had one, I would get lost to the world in doing so.

Aesthetically an enlarged clit seems OK to me.  Some cisgendered women have large ones and their photos are so femme.

I hope that this helps.  In the event that it doesn't, and I get chucked-out of here for sharing what I have, I wish all of you gutsy guys all the best!

Wing Walker
Libra
 

Quote from: freespeechz on August 31, 2008, 10:00:46 PM
Even though I have no access to T for quite a while, I like debating such things in my head. And thus the big T debate. Shaving sounds fun, a lower voice is very much wanted, body hair would be hot, fat redistribution a blessing, and then comes the oh-so-wonderful clit growing aka production of a mini-penis.

I find myself thinking that maybe I'd prefer just to keep down there as is. As it is, I don't particularly like how penises look anyways, but they would be better than a vagina. But as a real penis is not an option, I find myself seriously thinking of not taking T, simply to avoid clitoral growth. Mostly because I would still like to get laid and a huge clit/mini penis seems like it would be a huge turnoff. And having parts that are "in-between" doesn't really appeal either. But I really want the rest of T's effects. :( I wish there was a checklist option, just check off what you want and leave the rest alone.

Any thoughts?
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