Quote from: tekla on September 07, 2008, 10:44:48 AM
I think the problem is/was that at some point in Nero's life he liked the needle way too much.  As in Neil Young's Needle and the Damage Done.

Oh, okay. Would it be better to have someone else inject it for you? 'Cause oral T and the others aren't really optimal methods of taking the stuff...

Quote'Cause oral T and the others aren't really optimal methods of taking the stuff...

And why aren't they Optimal? If they aren't as "good" then why the hell would they offer them. My Doctor told me that everyone has T shots because they are cheap and the most "commerical" known. Im paying £45 a month whereas before I was paying £30 for 3 months!

From what I have read about T Oral T is a definite no no. The reason they prefer to give it via injection is that it means it is not going directly through your digestive sytem, ie. cutting out running straight through the liver. I have also heard that with the creams you have to be careful about contact with people for a while after first applying it before it sinks in, especially pregnant women and young children, it can rub off with dire consequences (this may be incorrect but I have read it somewhere). Other than that I am not sure how practical it is other than it must become a pain in the a**e applying it everyday.

I have switched to a new brand of T about a year ago and only have to have my injections every ** weeks now compared to every * weeks on the previous type (much larger dose with Nebido compared to Sustanon plus less fluctuation between injections in the lebido dept.). I know this may not help with people who are phobic about needles but what Nero asked originally was how practical are the alternatives and I think injections are the most practical way overall.

John

QuoteI have also heard that with the creams you have to be careful about contact with people for a while after first applying it before it sinks in, especially pregnant women and young children, it can rub off with dire consequences (this may be incorrect but I have read it somewhere). Other than that I am not sure how practical it is other than it must become a pain in the a**e applying it everyday.

This is true.  I apply mine right after showering and dress when dry.  If you cover the applied area with a tee shirt there is no transfering to other people.  A guy I know on gel has a gf/wife and he applies his gel in the morning and showers after work, so there is no transferring to her when they're together.

It's not really a pain but it does take a few minutes to dry.  Not good if you're in a hurry.  So far I like the steady state of T in my system and have had totally even moods even after my recent hysto with no hot flashes.  I'm really NOT into lotions and such so that is a drawback; OTOH I'm not really into stabbing myself with needles, either.  So both have their pros and cons.  I get my T level checked in 2 weeks and we'll see where I stand.  My endo will switch me to injections if the topical isn't cutting it.

Jay

I love the needle. But I don't think I'm going to start shooting up with heroin.