Quote from: Flan Princess on September 07, 2008, 05:05:49 PM

Quote from: lisagurl on September 07, 2008, 04:51:25 PM

QuoteSo I take it denying medical care to a patient, say, for birth control pills or reproductive assistance, due to a practitioners religious beliefs is OK too?

We all have choices in this country. A private practice has the right to not serve you but a public Enterprise must.

So I take it this should not have happened?

QuoteShe and her lawyers successfully argued that a state law prohibiting businesses from discriminating based on sexual orientation applies to doctors.

The law was originally designed to prevent hotels, restaurants and other public services from refusing to serve patrons because of their race. The Legislature has since expanded it to cover characteristics such as age and sexual orientation.

These are public businesses not private establishments. As a worker you have the right to turn down a job offer. In one sense you are a private consultant refusing to provide a service. How ever if you open up a house painting business and refuse to paint a gay person's house because they are gay that is discrimination. But if you have a year of work planned and tell them you can get to it in a year that is not discrimination. They might challenge you in court then you would have to prove your claim. You could have a business plan that you  only use white paint and they want green they would have no case but you would have to prove that also.

QuotePosted on: September 07, 2008, 04:49:14 PM

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Is it not true that this board has a selective membership?

Yes, but in a way so that anyone can register and post/respond without submitting to an interrogation as to why they chose to register in the first place.

As the owner has the right to ban anyone without a reason. You would have no legal recourse.

Do you not understand the difference between private and public?

Do you not understand the difference between private and public?

Few do, which is part of the problem.

The other situation is how Bush looks at it . I worked for the Feds. My boss wanted to do some things that boarded on crazy. The legal dept. said he could not do them, he told the legal dept to find a way that he could, and they did. The private legal community is a lot sharper than the Government lawyers and the staffers that write the legislation. They can always poke holes in the laws.

Quote from: Keira on September 07, 2008, 07:44:56 PM

America hasn't changed at all.
In 1820, 1890, 1920, 1930, 1960, 1980
I'm sure many of the elite said the same thing.

Whining about the good old days always comes from those who stand to lose
if the current situation continues (for example, blacks actually voting
and making a difference... Sooo frightening for some).

I agree. The stupid country is pretty much where it was during previous eras like the WWI era when that filthy bastard woodrow wilson had women imprisoned and tortured for asking to vote.  German immigrants were abused all over the place, and on and on.

It's like there are eras where we approach true civility as a nation and eras where we become a cesspool again.  More cesspool than civility.