Look at the pickups driving down the street 95% of them are not carrying anything. They are play toys sold only by marketing an image. Most people have bought the market BS and spend money and their security on toys and other unneeded consumer items.

Instead of demanding and participating in local government to improve things they move 30 miles away and spend 2 hours a day in the play toy vehicle, not very smart use of their resources.

While most of the people I know who drive are either hippies in some Volvo beater, or a Subaru, or people have their second/third/fourth childhood and running around in sports cars, the ones I know who drive pickup trucks have working pickups.  They are not show toys, they are commercial and used for hauling stuff around.  I see such show trucks, but I don't know those people.

And that's city stuff, when I lived in Iowa, all the pickups were used pickups, I mean, those trucks were working farm trucks.

Then how do you compare the millions of new trucks each year with the only thousands of farms? Or from Texas to the Carolina's new trucks pulling out of subdivisions in the morning without a scratch in the bed. Then the wives have a 4-wheel-drive in areas that never see snow and the wheels never been on dirt.

I would imagine he compares it to pulling out of subdivisions and to pulling out of farm roads and when they pull out of the subdivisions on whether those trucks go to work-sites or parking garages and lots. But that would simply be a guess, Lisa.

Nichole

According to the Department of Agriculture, there were 2,076,000 farm in the United States in 2007.  Adding in construction work, other crafts based work, delivery stuff, that a lot of working trucks.

As for subdivisions, I'll have to take your word for that, I'm no where near them ever.

In my area there are many doctors and lawyers and everyone of them have a pickup that never even had the tailgate lowered.

There is no way all the trucks sold are used on farms,
unless farmers buy one a year... I think most farmer's can't
afford that.

Marketing don't force people to consume.
It finds what people dream about and cater to that.
They also try to differentiate their product from the
other guy producing thingamabob's. Its about competition.

People have self-control, they can choose not to buy a SUV
and a flat screen 40 incher.

I know plenty of people who
can barely feed their children yet got a new SUV and a car
in the driveway. Don't tell me there was no other solution!

People don't want to be thrifty, its not the "american way"...
American's live way way way beyond their means; they use
twice as much credit as the next highest country.

I lived in San-Francisco and commuted to Freemont (3 hours commute a day);
I didn't own a car, had a 27 inch TV, couldn't afford a house
in San-Francisco but I rented, I didn't want to have to live in the central valley
and pay 2K a month in mortgage for a small shack just so I'd have my own little
crap castle. I was paid well, so these where my choices.

Its all about priorities and choices.
Buying a house is a choice, and often its not the most sensible choice.
Saving you're own money is always a better investment than
putting it in real estate.

Its simple math, real estate grows long term about 4%, which is wiped out by interests
payments. Some of the money is recovered through taxation advantages, so all in all,
it comes out about even. A single family house is not an investment,
its a place to live in. The last
5 years have made people forget about this.

Investing wisely in blue chip stocks (warren buffet style) gives an a return of 7% long term
(last 200 years average, even counting the depression years!!)
If people were in the habit of saving (they are not), this would be the best deal.

A run-up price like we've seen screws up people and they get greedy.

A house is the largest single investment for average American families.  So any downturn creates widespread wealth displacement.

But, back to the lying.

The biggest lie, one that the media will not touch, is that McCain is fit to be president.  He is old, and age has a price.  But no one will talk about it.  Moreover, the military medical records have never been released, so we don't know about the POW trauma, and it must have been traumatic.  Of late he has seemed increasingly out of it, memory slips, stupid statements - its long been rumored that he's not quite all there.  Really, is that our best choice?

Then, of course is lie two, that somehow in some other universe, Sara is qualified to replace him.

Look at this way, If Sara is qualified to replace him, what does that make him?

Quote from: lisagurl on September 18, 2008, 10:38:50 AM
Look at the pickups driving down the street 95% of them are not carrying anything. They are play toys sold only by marketing an image. Most people have bought the market BS and spend money and their security on toys and other unneeded consumer items.

Instead of demanding and participating in local government to improve things they move 30 miles away and spend 2 hours a day in the play toy vehicle, not very smart use of their resources.

so very very true lisa . but it ant only the trucks . it is the cars too. where iam liveing at now  you can see about 2 to 4 Vehicles that are noting but a

play toy  and thats in a mile Stretch mind you . and it ant just the parents . its the kids too  that have these Vehicles  :icon_rolleyes:

Quote from: lisagurl on September 18, 2008, 03:56:42 PM
Look at this way, If Sara is qualified to replace him, what does that make him?

A corpse.